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Shall I tell his wife about your affair?

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IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 02/04/2020 22:04

Hello all,

I am fairly new here, I actually just registered because I'd really like to know people's opinions on my situation.

In autumn last year I became close to my then colleague. He was newly separated from his wife, but not divorced. They have three kids (a 4 year old and 1 year old twins). He'd moved to a small rented flat and left his wife and the kids in their home. The plan was, as he told me straight from the start, to start the divorce in summer 2020 because apparently that's when his wife's widowed mother would officially retire and move in with his wife to help with the kids (they're apparently a bit of a handful).

He said that his wife doesn't know about us because it's better this way apparently. He indicated that it may be easier for everyone to tell her after the divorce to keep 'things in check', whatever that means.

The thing is that we didn't hide our affair very well at work and as a result I lost my job because of that (it wasn't so straightforward but essentially it came down to the fact that one of us had to go and as he was senior, but not my manager, he was more 'valuable' for the company and so I had to go). That was in January. I have got over it more less by now, however, as he's an experienced IT expert, he was head hunted for and was offered a better job elsewhere and left the company a month after me to start in his new, better paid job. So the sum total of this is that I've lost my job but cannot find a new one easily, at least not in my line of work, because most companies have temporarily frozen recruitment, whilst he's enjoying a great step up in his career. Unfair much?

To top it off, just before the lockdown he moved back home (apparently for the sake of the kids so that they don't suffer without seeing him for the duration of the lockdown) but his wife's mother is apparently there as well, supposedly helping with the kids and he confirmed that she's taken the guest bedroom which would mean that he's back in the marital bed with his wife. So there is he with his wife and her mother and of course the three kids in their home, for the duration of the isolation.

Here is the thing - our relationship has become rather sour, I'd even say non-existent during this lockdown period. Previously he would message me a 100 times a day, but now I haven't heard from him for a couple of days. Previously he would be super affectionate, lovey dovey, planning our future and generally being swept of his feet by me etc etc etc. Now, at my age (36) I approach this love bombing with caution but I think he really was genuine when things were great. I don't understand what's happened but I feel very hurt by the sudden lack of his attention. When I asked him about it, he didn't really say anything.

I went from feeling sad, to confused, to super angry. When I consider that I lost my job because of our affair (I know, I know, I took part in it voluntarily) but he smoothly transitioned from one job to another, it makes me fume inside. He used to be all lovey dovey treating me almost like the love of his life - this went on consistently for months and now nothing. I don't hear anything from him at all. Not a beep. I've tried to initiate some contact this week but he came across as distant and all his affection/love/ enthusiasm for me was gone.

I am super angry. I am also feeling lonely (I live alone). I am jobless and generally things are not easy. I probably came off as a bit of clingy when trying to talk to him this week, that's not my usual self. He always admired how strong and independent I am. And now I was almost begging for attention. It's not a situation I've experienced before and my ego is taking over my rationale. The last straw was when tonight I saw him bragging to someone about his new job on LinkedIn. I really, really feel very close to letting his wife know about us....They were separated anyways and according to him, the divorce proceedings were to start in summer. It just seems so very unfair that he seems to be getting away with everything and coming across as the good guy (a responsible father who didn't want to be separated from the kids too long and a reliable breadwinner who quickly moved to a better paid job). Nobody knows about our affair - well, apart from people at our old office, but deep down I wish he suffered a bit too. I know it's awful to admit this, I should probably be the better person here but it's very, very hard. Normally the right thing to do in this situation would be to move on and find someone else, with better circumstances but I can't even date anyone else because of this lockdown! Part of me deep down wants to let his wife know which would, potentially, make their isolation situation rather unpleasant, hopefully for him mainly!

Thoughts please? I think I know what you all will probably tell me - that I should raise above it and let it be and move on. But that's that one thing that it's hard for me to do and I dont' even want to do that if I am perfectly honest. It feels like I am the one who is paying for everything but he's is breezily running through it all with flying effing colours...

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RogersVideo · 03/04/2020 11:52

I think when there are children you need to tread carefully. In your case, I wouldn't tell his wife. They have 3 very young children, life at home will be hard work. I don't know that she'd necessarily thank you for telling her. I suspect the wife and children would lose out much more than he would.

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 12:05

If he is abusive, better it comes out while his mother in law is still on the premises, surely? Though I doubt it's the case, given that he left, let her keep the house and let her move her mother in.

TigerKingisMental · 03/04/2020 12:18

If he is abusive, better it comes out while his mother in law is still on the premises, surely? Though I doubt it's the case, given that he left, let her keep the house and let her move her mother in.

Leaving last time was all on his terms though so he was in control of the situation. If he loses control who knows how he will react. I for one would not in all good conscience take that risk with small kids involved.

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:20

Love all these posts from women saying dont tell the wife blah blah blah , mumsnet is full of hypocritical wankers , why shouldn't the dick head get called out , you have lost your job because of this situation and he walks away scott free , dont fucking think so

Thank you. I actually agree with this because this is exactly how I feel. Many comments here say that I should think of the wife and their kids instead of myself all the time. I don't mean to sound inconsiderate but I'd dare say that her situation is currently better than mine, despite the fact that she's got her cheating husband at home. I don't mean to sound pathetic but I am a foreigner in this country (OK, so is he but he's surrounded by his family), I live alone, all my family are abroad, I have no proper contact with my friends here as everyone is in isolation. I have no job. I have been looking and went to a few interviews but most companies have now put their recruitment on hold for the foreseeable future. I'd like to carry on with my line of work because I cannot afford to take a huge break which would make me slide right back professionally. Not to mention that I need a job that would allow me to finance my life, if I take a delivery job like someone suggested, I may lose my current flat, may have to sell my car etc. He, on the other hand side, is enjoying an elevated career with a great salary and he's coming off as the good guy who returned to his family during this difficult time. His wife won't have to worry about her finance like I do, her mother is helping with the kids and they have their own family unit to fall on if they need any support. Who is supporting me? In light of all this I find it difficult to focus on the mental wellbeing of his wife/kids when I am potentially facing difficult financial decisions in the near future if I don't have a job.

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BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 12:29

Again, if he's abusive, better for everyone that it comes out while his mother in law is living with them. Unless he's a raging psychopathic monster who is going to kill his wife, his wife's mother and his three small children. The likelihood of that happening is so remote as to not factor in to my calculations, and I'd consider myself a bit of a worrier. Or is every woman to be held accountable for the potential hypothetical actions of every man they have slept with? No one should ever do something that might upset a man just on the off chance he's a future serial killer just waiting for his moment?

We really need to stop holding women accountable for the actions of men, it's deplorable.

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:32

The best revenge is a life best lived. Try and enjoy the quite time, get your shit together so when we're out of lockdown you are in a good place to start job hunting etc. Leave him alone, block him number and move on
….yes, and let him walk away shame-free whilst I am battling my circumstances alone?

Telling his wife will only frustrate you more because you will come of worse. He will lie, she may know, but I agree with the pp who said he will make you out to be a stalker who he got sacked.
If I send her one message, how would that make me a stalker?

Be warned if you tell his wife he may get his revenge on you by trashing his reputation in your industry
I may be naïve but I am rather hoping that he'd be too busy sorting out his home situation instead?

And as for the children the OP isnt the protector of their feelings, the people that crested them are ie twatbag daddy who gets his kicks shagging about and leading on women, sorry at what point are his heartbroken wife and kids feelings the responsibility of OP? Why should she burden that. was it OP that stood in front of friends and family and recited vows , no it wasn't it was him and he is solely responsible for the fall out , I have every sympathy for the wife but let's be real if it wansnt OP it would be somebody else
Thank you, this is exactly what I think too. I knew that people here will scold me simply because married men everywhere are untouchable. But I really, really don't think that I deserved what I am dealing with. Yes, I was probably naïve. After all I had never been involved with a married/taken guy or a colleague. I should have probably foreseen the potential consequences to protect myself by not stepping into anything messy. But it all seemed legitimate - their issues apparently escalated during their summer holiday last year, he moved away in September and in October/November (can't remember exactly) we started our affair. And actually, I shouldn't even call it an affair. It had all the traits of a relationship. He had his separate flat which I visited. In public we were behaving like a couple. He had it all planned out with the divorce etc. it made sense. How was I supposed to know that things will turn so sour so fast? I have had break ups before, of course, but it was never so unequal like this (he has it all, I got the shitty end of the stick).

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Eckhart · 03/04/2020 12:33

So, because she's got a better deal than you, you want to take her down?

When you have so much to do to sort out your own life after this mess? You want to focus on ruining someone else's life? Don't you want to focus on yourself, and fixing up your own situation, and regaining your independence, rather than potentially shackling yourself to a bunch of on going abuse from her?

She is not your responsibility. There are wide and varied possibilities re consequences if you tell her. You might be doing her a favour. You might be creating an ongoing abusive situation for her and her kids, during lockdown. You just don't know.

You are your responsibility. You do you.

Smilebehappy123 · 03/04/2020 12:34

Couldn't agree more with the comments above , sorry wouldnt let me tag you @brouhaha

pusspuss9 · 03/04/2020 12:34

@ Iwillhave another one
ône of these days if you ever have three little kids you might be more understanding . Then you might be ashamed of yourself for wanting to harm them , because make no mistake, they would be the ones most harmed were you to go through with your vengeful plans.

At the same time I understand your rage and I also agree that at some point his wife needs to know about the affair. Just not now.^

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:35

In terms of your work again you knew the consequences of ethics code , didn’t bother to hide your relationship - what did you expect to happen

Sorry, but him and I were in it together. The code of ethics applied to both of us at work, but only I was the one who got punished. How is that fair?

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MikeUniformMike · 03/04/2020 12:35

Focus on yourself. You made a mistake.
Block him on SM, phone and e-mail.

Telling his wife won't make you happy.

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:38

*Then you might be ashamed of yourself for wanting to harm them , because make no mistake, they would be the ones most harmed were you to go through with your vengeful plans.

At the same time I understand your rage and I also agree that at some point his wife needs to know about the affair. Just not now.^*

Sorry, I don't want to harm the kids. But you cannot have it both ways, if the wife should now (regardless whether now or later), then inevitably the kids will be somewhat affected. Of course I'd like to leave the kids out of it and just keep it between him and his wife, but I don't think this is up to me to manage. They are the parents so they have to handle the childcare themselves. If he had no hesitation to play away, he must have known that this behaviour will eventually come up and affect this kids. Did it stop him? No, he still went ahead and pursued a relationship with me. And now you're asking me to be considerate towards the kids? Sorry, I don't think I should be doing the parents' job.

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IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:40

She herself said at first it was all about the sex.

Yes, sex with a SEPARATED man. What's wrong with that??

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abitlostandalwayshungry · 03/04/2020 12:45

Sorry, but him and I were in it together. The code of ethics applied to both of us at work, but only I was the one who got punished. How is that fair?
^
This is why you need to talk to a lawyer.
I don't understand why are you keep calling it an affair - can't you see that it riles people up on this thread? I thought he was separated when your relationship started.

pusspuss9 · 03/04/2020 12:45

And now you're asking me to be considerate towards the kids? Sorry, I don't think I should be doing the parents' job.

Patents could be doing the best job in the world until somebody comes and drops a bomb in their midst. Don't be naive YOU would play a major part in any fallout. I think looking back in years to come you would be ashamed were you to do this now. You need to get over your feelings of 'rache'. I use the german word for revenge here in the hope that the real meaning would go to your heart.

Kit19 · 03/04/2020 12:46

what will you do OP if his wife says "yeah we were separated so im not fussed"?

you want to burn his life down and I understand why but what if she doesnt react as you expect? what if heis life doesnt burn down but carries on as is? will that give you the closure you need?

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:48

If he likes you he will return. Simple

I dont' think I want him to return. I'll miss him but after all of this I can never see him the way I saw him before. He has shown me clearly that he can put me on hold whenever it suits him and potentially come back (if/when it suits him). I think I deserve better.

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DickClarksNewYearsRockinEve · 03/04/2020 12:49

He never really left his wife. They are back together. You’ve been dumped.

It’s a shit situation and he sounds like an utter bastard. But the best thing you can do is delete, block, chalk it up as a lucky escape and move on with your life.

Telling his wife would be incredibly spiteful.

BlueJava · 03/04/2020 12:49

He's back with his wife and playing happy families. I'd dump him, move on, write the job off to experience and walk away with your dignity!

Haffiana · 03/04/2020 12:49

To cut a long story short, my boss couldn't let it go, was shit scared about what kind of message it would be sending out to people (because my ex-lover was officially married and most people didn't know that he was separated)

Did you get fired by 'most people'? Really? Your company let you go because your allegedly separated man was 'officially married'?? Was he unable to state that he was in fact separated?

This makes no sense and cannot be true. There is something you are not telling us.

DickClarksNewYearsRockinEve · 03/04/2020 12:51

And if you do tell her I guarantee 100% he will paint you as a stalker/nutjob/obsessed with him and tell her you meant nothing, she and the kids are his world etc etc...almost 99% this will happen and you’ll come out if it feeling even worse.

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 12:52

*what will you do OP if his wife says "yeah we were separated so im not fussed"?

you want to burn his life down and I understand why but what if she doesnt react as you expect? what if heis life doesnt burn down but carries on as is? will that give you the closure you need?*

To be fair, I dont' expect to hear from her at all. I would send her a message (just one. Clear. Unemotional. Factual. Polite). And that would be that. I dont' want him back. And true - I wouldn't know what would happen between them. Maybe that would speed up their separation/divorce. Maybe not and they'll decide to patch things up. Either way I will have done what I could and the rest? Let the chips fall where they may if I am honest.

Patents could be doing the best job in the world until somebody comes and drops a bomb in their midst. Don't be naive YOU would play a major part in any fallout. I think looking back in years to come you would be ashamed were you to do this now. You need to get over your feelings of 'rache'. I use the german word for revenge here in the hope that the real meaning would go to your heart
Sorry, but he clearly wasn't doing the best parenting job in the world when he was balls deep inside me. Why should it be ME to be considerate towards HIS kids? I dont' want to hurt them, but I dont' think I should exercise some extreme caution and ignore his wrongdoings....even though I don't think that we were doing anything wrong when he was separated.

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Beachtowel23 · 03/04/2020 12:52

It seems like you have already made up your mind to tell his wife, that is entirely up to you BUT it won’t change your position, you will still be in exactly the same place as you are now.

Like I said in my last post do it if you actually feel sorry for her don’t do it for revenge.

Get yourself a lawyer and ask them about your employment that should be your priority as you need to get that sorted.

pusspuss9 · 03/04/2020 12:56

Why should it be ME to be considerate towards HIS kids?

Because you're a human being and most decent people try not to hurt little kids, however much it would heal their hurt souls.

Postspecific · 03/04/2020 12:57

Try to think about you. That’s the only part of this you can control. Very rarely does the most destructive option make sense. You might feel better for a day - then you’ll feel worse. Trust me.

If you’re honest with yourself, you’re hoping for a fallout. You’ve had control taken away and you want it back so you want something - anything - to happen. You want to centre yourself. In all likelihood, that won’t happen. You won’t know what the fallout has been and you will feel so so much worse. Keep the ball in your court for now. Do nothing. Take some time.