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Flouting the lockdown, it’s wrong, right?!!

68 replies

Blinkingecksake · 29/03/2020 09:50

Just having a moan really... I don’t live with my partner, but due to working at home, the only people he has seen in the last 3 weeks is me and my children, so if I did see him, minimum risk. However, we won’t see each other because we feel it’s the right thing to do, it’s not essential travel, we’re law abiding and sensible and have accepted the guidelines that we can’t now see each other till god knows when. Him moving in here temporarily isn’t a go-er as he needs to work from home, lots of video calling etc and I have a noisy household with kids.

But! I’m so surprised at the number of people who are flouting this! And am so surprised by people’s reactions when I say I’m not seeing him (half hour drive away involving motorway, even if I did want to flout it I’d worry I’d get stopped!). They’ve said they’d just go anyway when kids at their dads. Some agree that I’m doing the right thing, but not all.

Am I missing something here?! Apologies if this has been covered already - been trying to focus on kids and school work and not disappear down a Mumsnet hole!!!

One more gripe - he’s a real pragmatic matter of fact man. No element of seeming bothered by not seeing each other as ‘we can’t change it, sooner we all stick to it sooner life will return’. Would just be nice if he said ‘miss you!’

OP posts:
NoMoreDickheads · 29/03/2020 10:16

You're not wrong, but I think a lot of us are making a compromise and seeing one or two people. It's no more risk than if you were co-habiting or married to someone, as millions or people are.

NoMoreDickheads · 29/03/2020 10:18

It's a bit more risk to him I suppose, as it's more individuals than if you were a child-free couple. And you would be putting your kids at a bit more risk of catching it.

anotherdisaster · 29/03/2020 10:20

To be honest OP there are far bigger worries than people trying to see their partners. I still
see lack of distancing in supermarkets, I still see groups of kids hanging about in parks etc.
AS long as you feel you're doing the right thing i wouldn't worry about anyone else.
As for his reaction, yes i would be a bit peeved at this but some people deal with things by being black and white about it. I'm sure he does miss you but doesn't want to feel worse by talking about that. Tell him you miss him!

Blinkingecksake · 29/03/2020 10:22

That’s the thing. I don’t feel either of us are particularly at risk if we see each other as we’ve only been around each other pretty much. Tho my kids going to their dads and I’m going to work once a week so yes increasing the risk.
I would be genuinely worried about being stopped if I travelled to him as technically it’s not essential travel. I just assumed everyone would follow it, but am now wondering if we’re being over the top?!

OP posts:
slinkysaluki · 29/03/2020 10:22

My partner is an hour and half away from me, moving in not an option. We have decided to not see each other until safe to do so.

Travelling to him involves motorway and Dartford Tunnel, i would be paranoid about getting pulled over.

I also work for NHS so would be risking passing it on. Shit situation i just hope it doesn't go on for months

HugeAckmansWife · 29/03/2020 10:23

I wouldn't worry about the driving. Did a long journey yesterday to exchange kids with ex and nothing happened. Didn't see any patrols or police, even at services.

Isadora2007 · 29/03/2020 10:27

I would just carry on seeing him and drive carefully. The rules allow caring duties so take a bag of groceries and IF you were topped you could say you were delivering to a self isolating friend.
But then MN is very Head Girl about rule following so I don’t think you’ll get a realistic view of what actual people not prefects would do irl

anotherdisaster · 29/03/2020 10:31

we’ve only been around each other pretty much. Tho my kids going to their dads and I’m going to work once a week
Thats a contradictory statement though. Do you come in to contact with anyone at work? Is your ex still working or comes into contact with anyone?
I'm not judging here by the way but you can be a link without knowing it. I'm even conscious that by touching something in the supermarket could give it to me, that's how easily it spreads.

midgebabe · 29/03/2020 10:31

Every unnecessary contact increases the chance that this will go on longer with more deaths. You will both need food etc, so can't be totally risk free

Currently people drive freely, but if they notice more people travelling than expected then we will see tighter restrictions as in other countries

Stronger76 · 29/03/2020 10:50

Mine lives 3 streets away. This is forcing me to evaluate our relationship - we've been 'together' for years but no discussion at all about moving in together despite us both being off work.

Bythecooker · 29/03/2020 10:55

I don't think it is head girl prefect behaviour to not meet people. People are dying, this is a big deal and they have not closed down all the schools and taken away civil liberties for a laugh. I think you are doing the right thing by not seeing him, you are coming into contact with others. Most people are not meeting one or two others, I am not and neither are my friends and we are certainly not prefect head girl types.

Redwoodmaz · 29/03/2020 10:55

We have all been asked to stay at home FFS!!!!!!
Do you want total lockdown? That's what will happen next.

TheGinGenie · 29/03/2020 11:01

My DP lives 15 minutes away. We're not seeing each other because the rules are there for a reason. I miss him dreadfully. The sooner people realise this and follow them properly the sooner we will get to see each other.

TheGinGenie · 29/03/2020 11:02

It's not "head girl" behaviour, (I am anything but this) it's realising why the rules are in place.

Blinkingecksake · 29/03/2020 11:04

Thanks everyone really good points. For an over thinker, this is not a good place to be! My chest is really tight today, anxiety on the rise... need to get cleaning with some loud music on.

@stronger76 definitely making me evaluate but dangerous as I’m jumping to conclusions based on nothing but my own (sometimes irrational) thoughts.

@Isadora2007 IF and a big IF, we agreed to chance it, I did think I’d make sure I have a bag of provisions on the front seat 🙈

@anotherdisaster I agree with you and others, even though interactions with others are limited, contact is contact and it still increases risk. He’s not mixing with anyone, I’m around a few people once a week and think my ex is at home all the time too so although minimum contact I appreciate it’s still a risk

And yesterday I did ask if he missed me, his answer was typically jokey and said I can’t because you’ve been texting me all day! That pissed me off so today I said I’ll be leaving him alone all day as I’ve got stuff to do. He’s so thick skinned I doubt he’ll even notice my sulk...

God I hate being an over thinker. I was happy in my relationship before this, now I’m picking it apart in my head. Standard behaviour for me, endless counselling wasn’t as effective as I thought 😩

OP posts:
Blinkingecksake · 29/03/2020 11:06

Last few posts were an overlap but thank you and yes I tend to agree, I generally am a do as I’m told type of person. This is a scary and very real situation and we have to all do our bit.

OP posts:
TheGinGenie · 29/03/2020 11:08

Another way to view it is by pretending you're caring for a self-isolating friend you're making it riskier and harder for those who actually ARE trying to care for vulnerable people. Any contact is a risk. Yes, it's the same as living together but they've only allowed that because it's impossible to stop you seeing someone you live with. That doesn't mean it's not a risk. I live alone and yes it is hard. I haven't seen anyone in person for weeks. But it's not normal life anymore and we have to realise this.

anotherdisaster · 29/03/2020 11:09

OP I think this whole situation is going to test many relationships and especially those where you don't live together. Try to take this time to focus on yourself and your DC, rather than your relationship. If its strong enough it will still be there when all this is over. Easy for me to say but I'm in the same boat.

VeganVeal · 29/03/2020 11:11

The rules allow caring duties so take a bag of groceries and IF you were topped you could say you were delivering to a self isolating friend.

FFS, we are all doomed. To start with I thought this was all over the top, but people are dying, over 1,000 now in the UK, it is serious. A few Darwin Award winners about for sure

lazyarse123 · 29/03/2020 11:25

Please don't visit. I wouldn't worry about being stopped but what if you broke down or had an accident? I have to work in a food shop and believe me I am terrified of bringing it home to my family. The sooner everyone does as they're asked the better.

yesterdaystotalsteps123 · 29/03/2020 11:31

Everyone stop driving around for a shag. If you have a car accident you are taking up NHS resources. Stay home save lives and protect the NHS that's the message. We will end up with tighter restrictions because people think the rules don't apply to them

Blinkingecksake · 29/03/2020 11:32

I won’t visit, I respect we all need to do our bit and hopefully it may just be over that bit quicker. I just wish I wasn’t an over thinker in the meantime!

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offlikeabanger · 29/03/2020 12:10

Shame on the people condoning this, and even bigger shame on those giving OP ideas on how to trick the police.

FFS. I can't believe how selfish and arrogant people are.

GirlCalledJames · 29/03/2020 12:15

This is an interesting article on how seeing one or two people outside your household negates the benefits of the lockdown.
elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17

Notcoolmum · 29/03/2020 12:21

Unnecessarily hurtful post about 'driving round for a shag' at no point has the OP mentioned that or even physical contact. I'm in the same situation and I'm frightened and alone. I'm envious of those that get to cuddle their partners and spouses and talk through their worries and know they aren't alone. Non cohabitating relationships can be deep and meaningful and not about sex.

I'm grateful for FaceTime. But I miss my bf, my family and my friends so much.