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Partner hates mum…and it’s causing a lot of stress

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bonslie · 12/03/2020 13:17

Hi all, currently 38 weeks today and struggling/need to vent.
My mum and my partner (who I’ll call L) used to get on when we first got together, and I was living with my mum at the time. I’ve always been close to my mum, but there were issues with my mums partner (B), who, to be honest, had been rude and ended up making my partner feel unwelcome and uncomfortable coming to the house. This became a big issue in the end, and I ended up moving out due to my L stopping visiting me there to avoid B. Coincidentally, I moved out when I was a couple of months pregnant.
Since I moved, only one family member (sibling) has been to visit. I have 3. I was messaging my mum daily, calling her, which was good because I needed it. I have become completely isolated in this new town for six and a half months and I never leave, and the only visitors are my partners family or his friends. Due to my pregnancy and struggles I’ve had through it, my partner has become…enraged at the fact that my mum hasn’t been through to support me. I’m supposed to be staying at my mums the last couple of weeks leading up to my due date (meaning right now!). She’s redecorated the house for me coming and has been really excited, but months ago she said that she would make sure her partner B wasn’t there for me staying. L was happy with this, and has completely held her to it. L has high functioning autism, and he can be very literal and take things seriously. If someone gives a time estimate for them doing something, he will hold them to it, and if the person is a minute late or doesn’t do what they promised he becomes really angry.
Every day for the last two/three months, whenever he comes in from work I’m straight away questioned about whether or not I’ve contacted my mum to demand that B is gone from her house for me staying. At first she kept saying it would be sorted, but recently in the last month she has told me that she can’t just get rid of her B, but she would get him to apologise to L for the attitude in the past so there were no issues with me staying. However, L completely despises B, kind of to the point of ridiculous. There’s no way in hell I would say this to him, but it really is over the top sometimes with his hate towards him and refuses to ever see the guy again or have him involved in our child’s life. I’ve tried explaining this to my mum but she wanted to message L and encourage him to accept the apology. I had to advise her not to without letting her know that I would get nothing but shit for it when he came home. I did tell L about the apology, but he laughed it off (angrily) and has made it clear to me every single day that if my mum doesn’t get rid of B out of her life, then she won’t have anything to do with my child. He is also refusing to let me stay at my mums, which is literally a 15 minute drive from the hospital, because B is there. At home, we don’t have a car and to get to the hospital would take 3 separate buses over 3 hours, or a taxi which is rarely available, could cost £70 and might not even take a woman in labour. His parents have said they will be on standby for a call, but this is because he has told them that my family are all absolutely useless and selfish and aren’t willing to do anything for me, and now they are hating my family. If I was at my mums, I would have the comfort of my own mum (who I haven’t seen since November), and I would be right there at the hospital. But no. Because of B being there, L is completely refusing. He comes in expecting me to phone my mum and shout at her down the phone and tell her that if she doesn’t get rid of her partner then she won’t have any involvement in my child’s life, and because of his autism he genuinely expects this and thinks that my mum will say yes. He thinks that if she doesn’t, she’s completely selfish and an idiot. I mentioned to her last night about not going to her house and she was heartbroken and angry. The way she sees it is that MY partner, who shouldn’t have a say in anything of hers, is giving her an ultimatum: end your relationship with B or never see your daughter or grandchild again. Which is essentially what he keeps saying, but I don’t know how serious he is. He gets worked up and angry as soon as he’s in the door about this issue and every night I have to sit and listen to him shout at me for about an hour and a bit, calling my mum all the names under the sun, telling me to phone her right then and there and give her abuse. Sometimes he even types out messages telling her how much he hates her, how selfish she is, how she’ll die having no one but B because everyone hates her because of him. I then have to sit and listen to him get offended about why I’m not extra close to his family - the truth is, the way he talks about my family and especially my mum makes me resent his. He talks about how his mum cares about me more than my own, she’s been more helpful and loving and we should move closer to her as opposed to my family (who would all visit me if I stayed closer to them). Constantly having someone tell you how their parent is better and loves you more than your own and does more for you than your own really does cause this resentment and uneasiness, especially when I still love my mum to pieces and wish I was closer to her. His behaviour is causing me to not want to be close to his mum, but he doesn’t get that. L has become very aggressive about my mum and is very vocal in his dislike. He has said that if I go behind his back to stay at my mums at all with B there, then he will end it with me. I’m constantly told that I clearly don’t care about L in this situation because I haven’t forced my mum to get rid of B.
I really am at my wits end. I’m 21, completely isolated in a town closer to L’s family, haven’t seen any friends or family at my house since I moved 6 1/2 months ago. My partner goes off his head at me daily and berates my family to the point I get so anxious about him coming home because I know it’s going to happen. I understand his urgency and not wanting B to be in the house, I really do. But he genuinely can’t understand the fact that I cannot tell my own mother to end her relationship for me, no matter how bad a relationship it looks to other people, and truly believes that she should be kicking him out right now and having him gone and he won’t let me be in her life if she doesn’t. My mum has been my only parent since I lost my dad as a child and I’ve always been close. I can’t even talk about her anymore, like bringing up something she said or done in the past, without it turning completely negative. I used to stand up for her all the time and now I can’t even open my mouth when my L is slagging her off because I get it much worse. I can’t deal with it anymore. I’m in agony, ready to burst, have had to deal with this stress for months now and it’s just getting worse the closer to the due date I get. My mum is supposed to be in the room as my birthing partner along with L, but he has made it clear to me that he will be treating her like shit in the room and will make the whole experience as difficult as possible for her by making it clear that he hates her. He is not understanding that this is putting a huge strain on me and making me feel so anxious and have so many doubts about the whole thing. How am I supposed to give birth in a room with tension like that when all I ever wanted was my mum and L to just help me through it? I’m so excited for my baby to be here but absolutely dreading the birth like you cannot imagine. Every day for weeks I’ve been praying that she comes early (which is bad, I know) just so I can avoid all of this. But here I am, week 38 and not at my mums. Not allowed to go, and also literally about to post this and then have to phone my mum to tell her that I can’t see her like L has told me to. I hate it all. I know that a lot of this is down to his autism, but I feel so lost and I don’t know how to cope with this anymore.
I have literally no one through here. I want my own mum, and he just gets offended and demands to know why I don’t want his mum. He’s even offended that I want my own in the birthing room, when in reality if she wasn’t going to be there then I wouldn’t have anyone else in, let alone his mum.
I’m sorry for rambling, and it not making sense in a lot of parts. I just needed to get loads of this off my chest, but it’s hurting me too much.

OP posts:
SexIsAProtectedCharacteristic · 12/03/2020 15:27

I didn't get far into your post OP before it became really clear that your partner is using B as an excuse to isolate you from your family.

Go to your mum's and don't go back.

rayoflightboy · 12/03/2020 15:31

Did he make you post this @bonslie.You need to phone your dm and go.Ring the police if you are afraid he will kick off.

Go now and please tell your midwife,they will be able to help you.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 12/03/2020 15:44

What exactly did B do?

sauvignonblancplz · 12/03/2020 15:49

You need to leave & for the love of God do not put his name on the birth certificate.
Have no more contact with him until your mind is clear.
Focus on being a new mum. Flowers

probablysue · 12/03/2020 15:51

You need to pack a bag and go to your mums right now. This bloke is abusive. Autism is not an excuse for this. It’s utterly unacceptable. Go now before the baby is born. You are at risk. His anger is out of control.

Haffiana · 12/03/2020 16:02

OP, I hope you have been helped by all these posts to understand that your head has been so thoroughly messed up by your partner that you have forgotten that you are an adult woman who owns herself, and who can make her own choices.

You can choose when you see your mother. You can choose when you see ANYONE.

You can choose whether YOU have a problem with L. If you don't then you don't. You do not have to take responsibility for your partner's mental issues. You can have your own opinions - you do not have to be a supporting act to his dramas.

You don't have to listen to anyone who is upsetting you.

You do not have to make life nice and smooth for your partner. You do NOT HAVE TO MAKE HIM AGREE WITH YOU OR SEE YOUR POINT OF VIEW. He never will. Why are you trying to solve his fucked up, rigid problems with the way you live your whole life?

You are going to be a mother. You will have someone who will depend on you totally and utterly for a long while. You cannot be a mother whilst trying to placate a dangerous, deranged broken man.

Imagine that your child-to-be was grown up and living with your partner. What would you advise them?

RLEOM · 12/03/2020 16:19

Very controlling of your partner. My ex was the same, told me I wasn't allowed to breastfeed, wasn't allowed to stay at my dad's with our baby etc. I left when baby was 3 months because I couldn't take it anymore. His controlling behaviour was the tip of the shitty iceberg!

RLEOM · 12/03/2020 16:23

I forgot to mention that my ex had high functioning autism, just like myself.

What I will say is that myself and my ex both find it hard to see anyone else's views other than our own, making it harder for understanding and compromising.

Flyingf1edgelings · 12/03/2020 16:45

I was in your position 12 years ago. I wish mumsnet was in my life then.
L is a bad cunning manipulative calculated sneaky abusive bastard 😡
Autism is what he has trained you to believe and blame his behaviour on. Autistic people are not bad people, he is a bad person.

Please leave and go to your mums, if my husband made me choose between him and my mum I'd choose my mum, not because I loved my mum more but because people that genuinely love and care about you would never put you in that position.
I think b seen the bullshit a mile off and called him on his shit.
Leave for your babies sake if not for your own. He has you brain washed 😭

Branleuse · 12/03/2020 16:52

Your partner is abusive. It makes no difference that he is autistic. I am autistic and being abusive, angry and isolating you from friends and families is not part of autism. Its part of being an abusive arsehole.
Please, go to your mums. You dont need this stress. He is acting like he owns you. This will get worse when the baby is here. Please act now x

madcatladyforever · 12/03/2020 17:00

He is using autism to abuse you. Ban him from the birth and go back to your mums even if you need a police escort.
Abuse is abuse. He is making your life a misery. Leave ASAP. This will escalate to violenice.

PerfectionistProcrastinator · 12/03/2020 18:19

I doubt you will find anyone that will disagree that your partner is being extremely abusive and controlling.

As a pp says, you are not his property, he does not get to decide where you go and who you see.

I hope you can find the strength the leave.

strawberrylipgloss · 12/03/2020 18:48

You need to go to your mum's before this baby is born.

It is not unreasonable for him not to see your mum and her partner but it's extremely abusive to ban you from doing so. His behaviour is not due to his autism btw It's plain and simple coercive control and hopefully you can leave him and protect your baby from the worse of it.

hoxtonbabe · 12/03/2020 18:52

Arghhh, reading this has me raging. This is my ex through and through. He is HFA and that was essentially his excuse to be a shit to me, abuse and try to control everything. We broke up a year ago and I’m still in therapy as I’d never ever been with anyone that was so messed up and tore me down at any given opportunity and then would use his autism as the excuse and say I’m not supportive or understanding of his condition.

Please leave him, it will not get better, in fact it will get worse.

Bananalanacake · 12/03/2020 19:02

I was 21 when I moved from Yorkshire to London and had an amazing time. Living in a house share and going out whenever I wanted. No way would I want to be tied down to a man. You are young, listen to the advice and get out

Zaphodsotherhead · 12/03/2020 19:38

OP is 38 weeks pregnant, Banana, I think that ship has sailed.

Youdreamedmydreamforme · 12/03/2020 19:54

This is awful OP. I can’t say I know much about autism but this sounds like classic abuse. He has isolated you, forbidden you to see your family, I can’t see this getting better. Please please leave him or let me guess he’s said if you leave he will get full custody? If he has said that that is categorically untrue!

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 12/03/2020 20:00

I suspect the reason he hates your mums partner is because he can see that B can see right through him!
I had an abusive ex and he HATED my brother! Why? Because my brother seen through him since day one!
Pack your shit, throw it in bin bags & phone a taxi!! Leave! Dont engage with him just go now!!!!!

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 13/03/2020 07:09

OP what he is doing to you now..how he is treating you now do you want him to treat your baby the same? Because he will I promise you.Infact he might even not let you near your baby ...the only way out is to leave , He is destroying you. What will you do when he gets like this with the baby because he thinks in his warped mind that the baby is taking too much of your time and he gets jealous? Again it could happen. You are so young and you might not see it but you can have a wonderful life with someone who would give their last breath to see you happy....this man is dangerous and the reason for that is nothing to do with autism it is because he will never stop if you stay with him ..this you are going through now is only the tip of the iceberg and its just the start...it will get so much worse I promise you..get out of there as soon as you can.He is showing you how your life is going to be. Ring your mum please and go..do it for your baby..do it for you ..I promise you you will look back on this if you leave as the best discision you will ever have made.

GinAndNightnurse · 13/03/2020 07:28

I’m not interested in whether this is, or isn’t a fact of his autism. Even if it is, that’s irrelevant. He’s controlling and abusive. You need to leave. Go to your mums. Have your mum at the birth if that’s what you want.

Then, if B is really that bad for your mother you can discuss it with her quietly and in your own time, without your tosspot of a boyfriend bellowing in your ear about it.

GinAndNightnurse · 13/03/2020 07:30

Facet not fact!

redcarbluecar · 13/03/2020 07:34

The ultimatum regarding your mum getting B out of her life sounds fake - he knows he can’t demand this; it’s obviously a way to make sure you and your child get cut off from your mum. If your mum did get rid of B, would everything then be OK from L’s point of view? I suggest not.
Has L got some magical qualities you’ve not mentioned that make the hour of shouting at you every night worth putting up with? He sound utterly hideous. Autism is irrelevant; you’re not his carer. He’s told you he’ll leave you if you see your mum; well there’s your way out. I hope you can find the strength to get away from him.

FlowerArranger · 13/03/2020 07:43

@bonslie.....

You have had a lot of excellent advice. How are you feeling now? Are you any closer to moving back to you mum's?

Let us know you're okay Flowers

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 13/03/2020 07:48

You need your mum, not this utter chump DP. What he is doing is abusive.

HollowTalk · 13/03/2020 07:52

Call your mum as soon as he's gone to work and ask her to help you to leave him.