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Partner hates mum…and it’s causing a lot of stress

83 replies

bonslie · 12/03/2020 13:17

Hi all, currently 38 weeks today and struggling/need to vent.
My mum and my partner (who I’ll call L) used to get on when we first got together, and I was living with my mum at the time. I’ve always been close to my mum, but there were issues with my mums partner (B), who, to be honest, had been rude and ended up making my partner feel unwelcome and uncomfortable coming to the house. This became a big issue in the end, and I ended up moving out due to my L stopping visiting me there to avoid B. Coincidentally, I moved out when I was a couple of months pregnant.
Since I moved, only one family member (sibling) has been to visit. I have 3. I was messaging my mum daily, calling her, which was good because I needed it. I have become completely isolated in this new town for six and a half months and I never leave, and the only visitors are my partners family or his friends. Due to my pregnancy and struggles I’ve had through it, my partner has become…enraged at the fact that my mum hasn’t been through to support me. I’m supposed to be staying at my mums the last couple of weeks leading up to my due date (meaning right now!). She’s redecorated the house for me coming and has been really excited, but months ago she said that she would make sure her partner B wasn’t there for me staying. L was happy with this, and has completely held her to it. L has high functioning autism, and he can be very literal and take things seriously. If someone gives a time estimate for them doing something, he will hold them to it, and if the person is a minute late or doesn’t do what they promised he becomes really angry.
Every day for the last two/three months, whenever he comes in from work I’m straight away questioned about whether or not I’ve contacted my mum to demand that B is gone from her house for me staying. At first she kept saying it would be sorted, but recently in the last month she has told me that she can’t just get rid of her B, but she would get him to apologise to L for the attitude in the past so there were no issues with me staying. However, L completely despises B, kind of to the point of ridiculous. There’s no way in hell I would say this to him, but it really is over the top sometimes with his hate towards him and refuses to ever see the guy again or have him involved in our child’s life. I’ve tried explaining this to my mum but she wanted to message L and encourage him to accept the apology. I had to advise her not to without letting her know that I would get nothing but shit for it when he came home. I did tell L about the apology, but he laughed it off (angrily) and has made it clear to me every single day that if my mum doesn’t get rid of B out of her life, then she won’t have anything to do with my child. He is also refusing to let me stay at my mums, which is literally a 15 minute drive from the hospital, because B is there. At home, we don’t have a car and to get to the hospital would take 3 separate buses over 3 hours, or a taxi which is rarely available, could cost £70 and might not even take a woman in labour. His parents have said they will be on standby for a call, but this is because he has told them that my family are all absolutely useless and selfish and aren’t willing to do anything for me, and now they are hating my family. If I was at my mums, I would have the comfort of my own mum (who I haven’t seen since November), and I would be right there at the hospital. But no. Because of B being there, L is completely refusing. He comes in expecting me to phone my mum and shout at her down the phone and tell her that if she doesn’t get rid of her partner then she won’t have any involvement in my child’s life, and because of his autism he genuinely expects this and thinks that my mum will say yes. He thinks that if she doesn’t, she’s completely selfish and an idiot. I mentioned to her last night about not going to her house and she was heartbroken and angry. The way she sees it is that MY partner, who shouldn’t have a say in anything of hers, is giving her an ultimatum: end your relationship with B or never see your daughter or grandchild again. Which is essentially what he keeps saying, but I don’t know how serious he is. He gets worked up and angry as soon as he’s in the door about this issue and every night I have to sit and listen to him shout at me for about an hour and a bit, calling my mum all the names under the sun, telling me to phone her right then and there and give her abuse. Sometimes he even types out messages telling her how much he hates her, how selfish she is, how she’ll die having no one but B because everyone hates her because of him. I then have to sit and listen to him get offended about why I’m not extra close to his family - the truth is, the way he talks about my family and especially my mum makes me resent his. He talks about how his mum cares about me more than my own, she’s been more helpful and loving and we should move closer to her as opposed to my family (who would all visit me if I stayed closer to them). Constantly having someone tell you how their parent is better and loves you more than your own and does more for you than your own really does cause this resentment and uneasiness, especially when I still love my mum to pieces and wish I was closer to her. His behaviour is causing me to not want to be close to his mum, but he doesn’t get that. L has become very aggressive about my mum and is very vocal in his dislike. He has said that if I go behind his back to stay at my mums at all with B there, then he will end it with me. I’m constantly told that I clearly don’t care about L in this situation because I haven’t forced my mum to get rid of B.
I really am at my wits end. I’m 21, completely isolated in a town closer to L’s family, haven’t seen any friends or family at my house since I moved 6 1/2 months ago. My partner goes off his head at me daily and berates my family to the point I get so anxious about him coming home because I know it’s going to happen. I understand his urgency and not wanting B to be in the house, I really do. But he genuinely can’t understand the fact that I cannot tell my own mother to end her relationship for me, no matter how bad a relationship it looks to other people, and truly believes that she should be kicking him out right now and having him gone and he won’t let me be in her life if she doesn’t. My mum has been my only parent since I lost my dad as a child and I’ve always been close. I can’t even talk about her anymore, like bringing up something she said or done in the past, without it turning completely negative. I used to stand up for her all the time and now I can’t even open my mouth when my L is slagging her off because I get it much worse. I can’t deal with it anymore. I’m in agony, ready to burst, have had to deal with this stress for months now and it’s just getting worse the closer to the due date I get. My mum is supposed to be in the room as my birthing partner along with L, but he has made it clear to me that he will be treating her like shit in the room and will make the whole experience as difficult as possible for her by making it clear that he hates her. He is not understanding that this is putting a huge strain on me and making me feel so anxious and have so many doubts about the whole thing. How am I supposed to give birth in a room with tension like that when all I ever wanted was my mum and L to just help me through it? I’m so excited for my baby to be here but absolutely dreading the birth like you cannot imagine. Every day for weeks I’ve been praying that she comes early (which is bad, I know) just so I can avoid all of this. But here I am, week 38 and not at my mums. Not allowed to go, and also literally about to post this and then have to phone my mum to tell her that I can’t see her like L has told me to. I hate it all. I know that a lot of this is down to his autism, but I feel so lost and I don’t know how to cope with this anymore.
I have literally no one through here. I want my own mum, and he just gets offended and demands to know why I don’t want his mum. He’s even offended that I want my own in the birthing room, when in reality if she wasn’t going to be there then I wouldn’t have anyone else in, let alone his mum.
I’m sorry for rambling, and it not making sense in a lot of parts. I just needed to get loads of this off my chest, but it’s hurting me too much.

OP posts:
SomeoneElseEntirelyNow · 12/03/2020 14:42

I would leave and not come back, OP. Autism is not an excuse for abuse.

saraclara · 12/03/2020 14:45

It doesn't matter what lies behind his abuse. It's still abusive behaviour. You need to get out and go to your mum.

Dery · 12/03/2020 14:46

Another seconding that your partner is abusing you and need to get away from this man immediately – you are already very vulnerable and will be even more so after your baby is born.

He has isolated you and is determined to sever your ties with your mum. This is emotional and psychological abuse and it sounds like his family is just enabling him. Your mum must be at her wits' end. His behaviour is not natural and I don't believe it's to do with his autism but the reasons for it are irrelevant – it is incredibly harmful to you and you need to make yourself safe. You absolutely need to get away – this is not how it should be and it will all become much harder to deal with after the baby is born, when your attention is focused on meeting your baby's demands, your hormones are raging and no-one is getting much sleep.

He sounds like he could easily become physically dangerous to you as well and quite possibly the baby after the baby is born (abuse always gets worse after a baby is born). He's screaming and ranting at you when you're about to give birth to his child – when any man with healthy instincts would be being as loving and tender as possible and probably trying to wrap you in cotton wool. So if he can do this now, he can get a lot nastier.

For that reason, do NOT tell him that you are leaving. Telling him could endanger you. Ideally, make your get away when he is away from the home. You may want to speak to Women's Aid first but you are somewhat short of time because you really need to do this before you go into labour.

You can explain why you've left later and from a place of safety if you really feel you need to do so. (He may try to get you from your mum's so you may need to involve the police and/or seek a non-mol but that's for the future).

You should aim to take all your vital documents (medical notes, passport, bank cards etc) and any vital clothes and possessions. You may not be able to return after you have left but getting yourself away from this dangerous situation is the most important thing for you to do so don't worry if you have to leave some things behind as you make your escape.

Is there someone who can come and help you with that process while he is out of the house and perhaps drive you to your mum's?

You're only 21. You cannot possibly contemplate spending the rest of your life with this man – it would be hell. So please – for your and your baby's sake - get out as soon as possible.

Caselgarcia · 12/03/2020 14:46

So all he cares about is getting his way, he doesn't care about what you want at all. He's not thinking about what is best for the baby or you. Time to go back to you Mum's I think.

saraclara · 12/03/2020 14:46

Is he there at the moment? If not, call a taxi and go to your mum's. Now.

Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2020 14:48

Pack your things and any baby things and go home to your Mum
Don’t have the abusive arsehole in the room when you give birth
I’m no expert on autism but it’s irrelevant anyway, he should want to make your life easier and he’s doing the opposite
Seriously, just leave asap

HelpMeDrRanj · 12/03/2020 14:50

This doesn't sound like autism is to blame, he sounds abusive and hugely controlling.

You've said you want to go to your mums. You are pregnant and about to give birth in a few weeks, it's time to prioritize what you need and want. So go to your mums! Ask her to come and collect you if you need to. You'll need your mum more in labour and once babys here as she sounds like she'll support you and be a calm supportive influence instead of causing you stress.

I really hope you get some distance from him and get support from your family. Go with your gut, you need your mum now!

cupoftea84 · 12/03/2020 14:51

Are you ok OP? Had it occurred to you this was abuse?
I'd also suggest giving the baby your surname and having the baby things at your mums so you can go back there when you've had the baby. It doesn't sound like your partners home has a good support network.
Why did they fall out? Was your partner unreasonable in your opinion?

Nanny0gg · 12/03/2020 14:54

Contact your mum.
Tell her what's happening.
Plan a date to leave (when he's at work)
Gather things together carefully (tell him you're getting the place ready for the baby)
Do not tell him that you're going
Go home to your mum
Have your baby (without him there)
Contact CSA for maintenance for the baby
Give the baby your name
Get legal advice re contact

You are being isolated and abused.

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 12/03/2020 14:58

Listen to everyone! Please? Do what @Nanny0gg is saying.

Even if he is autistic, it STILL DOES NOT give him the right to treat you this way.

Please leave?

DameFanny · 12/03/2020 15:00

What NannyOgg said ⬆️

ScreamingLadySutch · 12/03/2020 15:01

That was horrible reading.

I think you should phone each one of your mum and siblings, and ask them to TELL YOU HONESTLY without holding back, what they really think of L.

I think you will be shocked by what they say.

Then, when he is at work, pack a suitcase and get the hell out of there.

I also think that you should apply for a non molestation order. Sorry @bonslie , but you are in the shit here

Carrotcake202 · 12/03/2020 15:01

autistic or not sounds like a right tosser, get rid of him for your sake and your child’s sake and move back with your mum.

HotSauceCommittee · 12/03/2020 15:06

Your partner is a terrible man and you will have an awful life with him if you stay, OP Sad
You are supposed to be your nearest and dearest abs yet he shouts at you for more than an hour every night? Isolated you from your family? He’s not worth it.

Zaphodsotherhead · 12/03/2020 15:07

His autism does not give him the right to dictate what you do and don't do. NOTHING gives ANYONE the right to 'forbid' another human being from doing something they want to do.

His autism may cause him to have difficulty in processing that you think, feel and have different wants to him (a friend's son behaves very similarly - think forcing her to go out for long walks when she has flu because he just CANNOT understand that she doesn't feel the same as he does), but that does not excuse him not listening to you, and deciding that you will obey him, whatever.

Get out, go to your mum's and try to enjoy the last weeks of your pregnancy. It doesn't sound as though your partner will adapt well to being a father to an unpredictable newborn either, so maybe it's for the best that he stays away.

strawberry2017 · 12/03/2020 15:09

Agree with all previous posters- get back to your mums safely. Never go back to him and put your surname on the birth certificate.
Autism does not excuse this behaviour but I think deep down you already know this. X

Dontknowwhyidoit · 12/03/2020 15:09

Hi, you must be feeling extremely overwhelmed by everyone's response. It seems clear to me that you have 2 choices, you can go along with your partners demands which in my opinion are not in yours or your babies best interests or you can leave and go to your mums and tell your partner that he has no right to dictate when and where you see your mum and if you feel that you need your mums help for the first few weeks after the birth, then he should respect your feelings. He will have to grow up and be civil to B as he is your mums partner and she says who can be in Her house, not him. Call his bluff and do what you think is best for you and the baby, if he is going to be any good at being a dad, he needs to put the baby and your needs above his own. Good luck and I hope the birth goes well for you.

TDJames · 12/03/2020 15:10

He sounds controlling and abusive - please don't use the autism to excuse this behaviour. Hi hunk about your little baby it's going to become a lot worse! Sending loads of love please go to your mums xxx

SaskiaRembrandt · 12/03/2020 15:13

He's a vicious, vindictive arsehole who not only wants to control you, but also wants to control your mother. Go to your mums. If he tries to stop you call the police. Once you're there, stay there and don't go back.

This creature is dangerous, and should not be allowed anywhere near a newborn baby.

Aquamarine1029 · 12/03/2020 15:17

Pack your things and leave for good. This is not autism, it is abuse, and it is only going to get worse. After the baby is born he will isolate you even more to the point you will have no contact with your family. Given that you are so young, I fear you are not seeing this abuse for what it is. You need to leave NOW and end this horrible relationship.

PoloMama · 12/03/2020 15:18

Exactly what @Nanny0gg said. You are not married so your baby can have your name and be under your care. Your mum sounds like a wonderful person - she is most likely worried sick about you and is only keeping her distance because she senses things could turn very nasty for you while you are living with your partner and she doesn't want to exacerbate the situation. Please leave him. He does not sound fit to be a father and my guess is that the abuse will escalate once the baby is born. You are young but with your family's support you will be able to provide a lovely life for your baby without having this crazed maniac around 24/7.

Summersunandoranges · 12/03/2020 15:20

Jesus, This isn’t autism this is a really abusive angry controlling man. He is actually going to make yours and your babies life hell.

Go to your mums now. This is not normal and life doesn’t have to be like this Flowers

I bloody hate reading threads like this as it actually makes me want to get in my car and go and find them!

MulticolourMophead · 12/03/2020 15:25

LTB. Go to your mum's and stay there. Dont go back to this arsehole, and dont put him on the birth certificate. If he can show he's a good dad, this can be altered at a (much) later date. Make sure the baby has your surname.

His behaviour is abusive, and it will not get better.

ThisSistineWontScreamAtItself · 12/03/2020 15:26

You are in a very abusive relationship.

You need to leave this man and trust me, your mum will be there for you in a HEARTBEAT if you tell her that. I bet she's been desperate to hear you say it forever and has been trying not to push you away too hard in case she loses you completely.

You are being abused.

Men who love you don't "go off their head" at you daily.

Men who love you don't "refuse" to let you stay somewhere safe near to a hospital when you're heavily pregnant because they would rather you were isolated, alone and an expensive stressful taxi ride away from medical assistance.

Men who love you don't behave how this arsehole does.

He sees this baby as HIS son. If he saw it as both of yours, he wouldn't "forbid" you from introducing your family to the baby etc when it arrives.

Why are you allowing this man to make decisions for you and your child without you having a say in them? It's because he's been abusive from the start - isolating you and creating a narrative of "us vs them" as if your family are the enemy.

He's a nasty, cunty bully.

Please ask your mum for help, she will be so relieved and supportive if you do.

Remember, you need to get out of this relationship so your lovely baby doesn't grow up learning that abuse is normal and this is an ok way to treat a woman (or anyone). Your responsibility is their safety and health. This situation isn't safe or healthy.

Cherrysoup · 12/03/2020 15:27

What di you mean, he won't allow you to go to your mum's? Just bloody go! At a time like this, you need your mum. B doesn't like L-do you like B? If so, what's the problem?