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Wasn't open to office romance but still slept with me

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cosmonautkitten · 02/02/2020 18:07

I started my current job about a year and a half ago, fairly standard office. One guy caught my eye straight away but it took us a few months to really end up having one on one chats, especially as I was still finding my feet and he’s really serious about his job in general.

In Spring last year we were the last two left after a work night and just stayed talking for hours more. When he was in the bathroom a group of guys came over and when he came back they asked if I was his girlfriend and he said no, it was a policy of his that he wouldn’t ever shit where he eats. I was a little disappointed but as we hadn’t really talked much anyway and nothing massively flirty it was easy to accept.

In May I started a thing with another co-worker who I dated for about six months. It didn’t work out but didn’t impact our professional relationship at all. During this relationship man 1 and I spent a couple of nights together after work at the pub (last two standing type deal) but got on well on these occasions. Despite these situations being very platonic I didn’t tell 1 about my relationship with 2 - not sure why as most of the rest of the office knew.

At our Christmas party in early December, 1 and I ended up spending pretty much the whole night together talking, eventually getting onto our past relationships. I finally mentioned that I dated 2 as part of this so he clearly then knew I wasn’t adverse to office relationships as at the end of the night we were the last two again - but this time 1 kissed me. It was definitely initiated by him as I wouldn't have ever made the first move based on our previous chats.

We ended up going home together and having pretty good sex that night and again in the morning. Two days later on Friday it was someone’s leaving drinks and we ended up leaving after only an hour so we could spend time just the two of us. As soon as we left he kissed me really intensely in the street like he’d been dying to for ages... and then the week following all this he asked me out again one on one.

Due to Christmas we weren’t in the office for a couple weeks and didn’t text either. Unfortunately during this time I got an std test and found out he had given me chlamydia. I waited till we were back in the office so I could tell him in person. His reaction was quite refreshing, very concerned for me (it was clear he didn’t know he already had it). He kept messaging me that night and was generally mature about the situation.

We started having more personal chat at work than ever before so I asked him out spontaneously one evening. He had family commitments but said he definitely wanted me to ask him again. I promised I would and genuinely believed he meant it.

This Friday it was another leaving do and he came straight over as soon as he saw me in the pub and again we spent a lot of time talking and he found reasons to touch my hand or make lots of contact when going past me.

Later in the evening he was outside smoking and I started talking to one of our other coworkers. The conversation ended up a little weird despite this man having a long distance partner so to shut this down I said I was seeing 1 but I was a little concerned he wasn’t as in to me. This coworker said I didn’t need to worry, he could tell 1 obviously liked me based on the way he was looking at me that evening and would be an idiot to turn me down.

After this conversation 1 finally asks me if I want to leave with him but it’s pretty late and I’ve gotten really unexpectedly drunk. He asked why me and the other coworker looked so close. It’s bit fuzzy but I think I said ‘don’t worry we were just talking about his girlfriend... and you’. He got flustered and said ‘why me?’. There’s then a chunk missing in which I think I may have talked about my ex, colleague 2, for some reason but I do then remember him asking if I want a relationship. I said ‘yes’ but am too drunk to elaborate.

His face just dropped and he repeated about three times in a row ‘I can’t date a colleague’ and we called it a night. Again, what happened exactly after he said that is a mystery but we definitely went our separate ways.

By Saturday evening I’m feeling increasingly more upset about what happened and not knowing so I text him to say that I don’t remember exactly what our conversation was, that I was incredibly drunk and really concerned that I said something wrong.

He replied saying it’s not my fault but just he never wanted to get involved with anyone at work and that he didn’t want to come back with me and then mess me about. I clarified that by ‘relationship’ I meant carrying on what we were doing and seeing if it went anywhere more naturally - that I was open to the possibility rather than seeing him as my boyfriend already. To this he said along the lines of: ‘yeah I completely understand you now but I do think I just want to go back to my old policy and not mix the two, 100% a me thing, nothing you’ve done at all’.

I felt ok yesterday after this convo but I woke up feeling terrible and have basically been crying all day.

I’ve always known that he has massive hangups about getting involved with a colleague as he told me when we were just friends but I thought as he managed to overcome this enough to sleep with me we were done with that? I’m really dreading seeing him on Monday - I’ve basically been rehearsing a ‘take me back speech’ in my head all weekend and don’t trust myself not to make an absolute idiot of myself if he genuinely doesn’t want me. I honestly might call in sick tomorrow, don’t know what to do.

OP posts:
OhDeez · 03/02/2020 13:22

HIV can take up to 12 weeks to show up on tests, and obviously that's much scarier than chlamydia.

I came on to say just that too. You'll need to repeat the test 3 months after you've shagged him, and since he has chlamydia, he obviously doesn't practice safe sex either, so chances he could have HIV on top of chlamydia are there.

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 13:23

@GiveHerHellFromUs they're standard tests taken during pregnancy, I was wondering why the results take up to 12 weeks as I was never told this.

OhDeez · 03/02/2020 13:24

This dude is bad news for you, not least because of the STI but also because he's using you for a quick shag.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 13:25

@Sagradafamiliar the results don't take 12 weeks to come back. HIV takes 12 weeks to appear but presumably you're not having unprotected sex with different people regularly so if you didn't in the 12 weeks before your blood tests you'll be fine

OhDeez · 03/02/2020 13:25

Sagrada - you're told that it may not show up in tests for up to 3 months, so if you have had unsafe sex, while wise to test immediately for everything, you also need to test for HIV again after 3 months.

OhDeez · 03/02/2020 13:28

Also, the advice given most recently to me, is if you're sexually active, even using condoms, best practice is to get tested every 6 months.

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 13:29

How odd that I've never been told that and I've been tested during every pregnancy and once when I went for a cervical screening (took up a full health check), so that's many times I haven't actually been given the facts of the screening. Every day is a school day!

OhDeez · 03/02/2020 13:35

Well if you have both been tested and are in a committed faithful relationship, you're probably safe enough Sagrada!

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 13:37

Nah, I'm single.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 14:04

I don't remember being told when I had my blood tests during pregnancy either. I do remember DP being amazed that the MW knew he had no STI's without testing him, because he's an idiot Grin

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 14:08
Grin
Opaljewel · 03/02/2020 15:12

Yes op, do not feel shame in your choices. Anyone is free to do what they like, all most ask is just practise it safely. That's all. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander in my eyes and I don't believe there is anything wrong. I actually work with my partner and we've been together 14 years.

Pumpkinpie1 · 03/02/2020 15:32

Wasn’t it enough of a red flag when he gave you an STI !
I think you need to raise your standards & start looking after yourself , using condoms would be a good start

Bluntness100 · 03/02/2020 15:52

I would also agree that when it comes to sexual health prevention is better than cure. As such it's prudent advice to not rely on testing after the event but protect yourself during. No one should be reticent to say no sex without protection, and that goes for both men and women.

And yes it is also sound advice not to have sex with your colleagues. Again this doesn't matter if you're Male or female. And yes women may sometimes be judged more harshly than men. There is nothing to indicate that this is the case in this company though, it would seem more likely that both genders are treated the same.

A relationship at work is one thing, and being sure before you go there, but when eithe gender starts to indulge in casual sex with their colleagues, it is not usually a career enhancer for either.

It's one thing for someone to promise uou a relationship and you find out they are a player, but that's not the case here. The man made it clear he was not up for a relationship with someone at work, so any sex was there fore casual. The fact the op wanted more is not the point. She knew, and casual sex does not mean he wishes a relationship.

So I am not seeing much wrong with the advice in theory , I clearly didn't see the deleted post though, but man or woman, unprotected sex and casual sex with your colleagues is not a good idea.

cosmonautkitten · 03/02/2020 16:23

Ok, I would like to clear some things up. I fully expected some tough love from Mumsnet along the lines of 'give your head a wobble'. I didn't expect quite this level of focus on the STD part.

I have not in fact been having regular unprotected sex with a wide variety of people. I've mentioned three people in this thread that I have slept with over the past three years- two ex boyfriends (the one from work and the one I broke up with in 2017) and the man who was the subject of this post.

However, I am annoyed that I feel the need to clarify this as even if I had been out having casual sex with half of London I don't think this would make me any less of a person deserving of medical treatment. The idea that this man is a terrible person not because of his actions but just because he had an STD is probably why there's such a stigma out there that stops people getting tested in the first place and contributes to the spread of disease Hmm

I mentioned that I hadn't slept with anyone more than two weeks apart simply to show that I was fully aware about the incubation period for both bacterial STDs such as chlamydia and blood borne diseases like HIV.

Obviously I have been to the GUM clinic recently for my course of antibiotics and spoke to the qualified sexual health adviser for a length of time about this. I've really taken his advice on board (like I said already said earlier in the thread I've definitely learnt my lesson!) and will definitely be insisting on condoms going forward.

I will also definitely be doing a blood test in the appropriate number of weeks to test for the remaining infections but no medical professional I spoke to throughout the process was particularly concerned I might also have HIV so I don't think the scaremongering on this thread about this is actually particularly constructive right now.

OP posts:
HIVpos · 03/02/2020 16:31

Just a couple of points... with the latest 4th generation HIV testing - results are 95% conclusive at 4 weeks, so a test done 28 days after the last instance of unprotected sex would be just about conclusive. These latest test can find antigens (which are produced earlier - from 1-2 weeks) In addition to antibodies (which earlier tests looked for).
i-base.info/guides/testing/what-is-the-window-period

Also, just to say, HIV is way more difficult to contract than chlamydia. Most people don’t know they have STIs because they don’t get tested. Credit to the OP for doing so, and hopefully the guy has been for testing and treatment too now.

CoffeeCoinneseur · 03/02/2020 16:35

And yes it is also sound advice not to have sex with your colleagues. Again this doesn't matter if you're Male or female. And yes women may sometimes be judged more harshly than men.

I think women are often judged more harshly than men in the workplace precisely because of the OP's behaviour, because they bring it into work, discussing with colleagues, considering phoning in sick, etc, etc.

One thing is for sure, chlamydia-man hasn't spent the weekend crying, analysing every look and conversation they've ever had, rehearsing speeches, considering phoning in sick.

I bet he hasn't given it another thought and just gone into work today and put in 100 percent as usual such that his colleagues won't even notice anything has happened (or not).

Shoxfordian · 03/02/2020 16:43

How did your day go with the guy at work?

Elbels · 03/02/2020 16:48

I was you at 24 (although without the STI!).

I had to continue to be in meetings with the man I desperately wanted to want to be with me. He evidently did not feel the same way! He was a nightmare for telling me how much he liked me on drunken nights out that kept me hanging on for far too long.

It was fine, you'll get over the awkwardness and realise that work sexing probably isn't the greatest plan!

hellsbellsmelons · 03/02/2020 16:50

I believe a large percentage of the population find their partners through work (around 30%).
You spend more time there than anywhere else so it's inevitable in a lot of cases.
My gorgeous DD wouldn't be here if I hadn't married someone I worked with.

OP took ownership and responsibility getting tested.
Getting it sorted out etc....
I don't get a lot of the crap on this thread.
No wonder us poor 'whimmin' are still 2nd class citizens!!

PumpkinP · 03/02/2020 17:05

There’s finding a partner at working then there’s sleeping with half the office! It’s been 2 so far and another one trying his luck aswell

toomanyleggings · 03/02/2020 17:12

You sound like you need to start getting some healthy boundaries in place. You're making a fool of yourself in front of all of your colleagues. I'd move jobs, stop drinking so much and stop sleeping with men at work until you're in a committed relationship

TheMemoryLingers · 03/02/2020 17:20

Some very harsh comments on this thread. Yes, the OP made some less than perfect decisions but there's no reason to judge her for having a couple of workplace affairs - hardly outside the norm and even if it were more, this isn't the 1950s.

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 17:39

I'd like to think OP won't start sleeping with men from work whilst in a committed relationship, leggings Grin

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