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Wasn't open to office romance but still slept with me

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cosmonautkitten · 02/02/2020 18:07

I started my current job about a year and a half ago, fairly standard office. One guy caught my eye straight away but it took us a few months to really end up having one on one chats, especially as I was still finding my feet and he’s really serious about his job in general.

In Spring last year we were the last two left after a work night and just stayed talking for hours more. When he was in the bathroom a group of guys came over and when he came back they asked if I was his girlfriend and he said no, it was a policy of his that he wouldn’t ever shit where he eats. I was a little disappointed but as we hadn’t really talked much anyway and nothing massively flirty it was easy to accept.

In May I started a thing with another co-worker who I dated for about six months. It didn’t work out but didn’t impact our professional relationship at all. During this relationship man 1 and I spent a couple of nights together after work at the pub (last two standing type deal) but got on well on these occasions. Despite these situations being very platonic I didn’t tell 1 about my relationship with 2 - not sure why as most of the rest of the office knew.

At our Christmas party in early December, 1 and I ended up spending pretty much the whole night together talking, eventually getting onto our past relationships. I finally mentioned that I dated 2 as part of this so he clearly then knew I wasn’t adverse to office relationships as at the end of the night we were the last two again - but this time 1 kissed me. It was definitely initiated by him as I wouldn't have ever made the first move based on our previous chats.

We ended up going home together and having pretty good sex that night and again in the morning. Two days later on Friday it was someone’s leaving drinks and we ended up leaving after only an hour so we could spend time just the two of us. As soon as we left he kissed me really intensely in the street like he’d been dying to for ages... and then the week following all this he asked me out again one on one.

Due to Christmas we weren’t in the office for a couple weeks and didn’t text either. Unfortunately during this time I got an std test and found out he had given me chlamydia. I waited till we were back in the office so I could tell him in person. His reaction was quite refreshing, very concerned for me (it was clear he didn’t know he already had it). He kept messaging me that night and was generally mature about the situation.

We started having more personal chat at work than ever before so I asked him out spontaneously one evening. He had family commitments but said he definitely wanted me to ask him again. I promised I would and genuinely believed he meant it.

This Friday it was another leaving do and he came straight over as soon as he saw me in the pub and again we spent a lot of time talking and he found reasons to touch my hand or make lots of contact when going past me.

Later in the evening he was outside smoking and I started talking to one of our other coworkers. The conversation ended up a little weird despite this man having a long distance partner so to shut this down I said I was seeing 1 but I was a little concerned he wasn’t as in to me. This coworker said I didn’t need to worry, he could tell 1 obviously liked me based on the way he was looking at me that evening and would be an idiot to turn me down.

After this conversation 1 finally asks me if I want to leave with him but it’s pretty late and I’ve gotten really unexpectedly drunk. He asked why me and the other coworker looked so close. It’s bit fuzzy but I think I said ‘don’t worry we were just talking about his girlfriend... and you’. He got flustered and said ‘why me?’. There’s then a chunk missing in which I think I may have talked about my ex, colleague 2, for some reason but I do then remember him asking if I want a relationship. I said ‘yes’ but am too drunk to elaborate.

His face just dropped and he repeated about three times in a row ‘I can’t date a colleague’ and we called it a night. Again, what happened exactly after he said that is a mystery but we definitely went our separate ways.

By Saturday evening I’m feeling increasingly more upset about what happened and not knowing so I text him to say that I don’t remember exactly what our conversation was, that I was incredibly drunk and really concerned that I said something wrong.

He replied saying it’s not my fault but just he never wanted to get involved with anyone at work and that he didn’t want to come back with me and then mess me about. I clarified that by ‘relationship’ I meant carrying on what we were doing and seeing if it went anywhere more naturally - that I was open to the possibility rather than seeing him as my boyfriend already. To this he said along the lines of: ‘yeah I completely understand you now but I do think I just want to go back to my old policy and not mix the two, 100% a me thing, nothing you’ve done at all’.

I felt ok yesterday after this convo but I woke up feeling terrible and have basically been crying all day.

I’ve always known that he has massive hangups about getting involved with a colleague as he told me when we were just friends but I thought as he managed to overcome this enough to sleep with me we were done with that? I’m really dreading seeing him on Monday - I’ve basically been rehearsing a ‘take me back speech’ in my head all weekend and don’t trust myself not to make an absolute idiot of myself if he genuinely doesn’t want me. I honestly might call in sick tomorrow, don’t know what to do.

OP posts:
GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 10:40

@Sagradafamiliar are you stupid? I'm just saying it's not a form of contraception.

Exactly. It's not a form of contraception. It's trying to fix the problem rather than prevent it which is my whole point.

If she uses condoms she'll be fairly well protected from both. That's all.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 10:41

But at least @loopery has come along to be a massive twat so you can jump on her now Smile

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 10:44

@GiveHerHellFromUs I can reassure you that I'm not stupid. You said: I just don't think sexual health tests should be used as a form of contraception.

At least loopery didn't try to dress up their judgment as faux concern.

LilyJade · 03/02/2020 10:44

OP I've worked in a hospital for 16 years & ive dated quite a few men from work who luckily didn't know each other. Even had an affair with one which I was ashamed of.
But I always kept it quiet so none of my colleagues would guess.

So I wouldn't say don't date at work at all but this man really does not sound nice, he sounds like a user. You don't want to become known for having casual sex.

Also calm it down on the drinking front. I used to get drunk a lot but not at work parties. Not a good idea.

Btw my parents met at work!!

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 10:46

@Sagradafamiliar yeah you're missing the point.

That's exactly what I'm saying. People try to use cures rather than prevention. If they used contraception rather than 'contraception' (ie cures) they wouldn't have a problem.

cosmonautkitten · 03/02/2020 10:50

Loopery I'm happy to say my mum isn't subject to your levels of internalised misogyny and taught me that a woman's value isn't defined by how much consensual sex she has. Thanks for your concern though Smile

Will be back properly on my lunch break!

OP posts:
user14928465 · 03/02/2020 10:52

The word "contraception" literally means "against conception". What are you on about?!

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 10:54

@user14928465 I'm saying she should use a condom ffs it's not hard to understand.

A condom is contraception so regardless of whether she's using it to prevent conceiving a baby or receiving an STI she should use it. Blimey.

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 10:56

@GiveHerHellFromUs no I'm not. It's no use giving your thoughts on people accessing a health service which exists for specific purposes and has government provision, anyway. Irrelevant.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 10:57

@Sagradafamiliar you're entitled to your opinion.

DidoTwyte · 03/02/2020 11:06

Don't know why you're getting so much crap for sleeping with people from work. Speaking from experience, it's hardly a rare occurrence. I do think discretion is advised though.

Work issue aside, if he's given you the old 'it's not you, it's me' line, it does look like he's not interested so don't waste your time with speeches.

Best thing you can do is to act cool with him (although polite and professional) at work, avoid situations with him involving alcohol until you're over it and find someone who actually deserves you.

RuffleCrow · 03/02/2020 11:10

He lost me at 'shit where he eats' op. He sees sex with women as an unpleasant but necessary evil
.. you're well rid.

NotAPan · 03/02/2020 11:14

Christ almighty. Please!

Use a condom. Every time. Use the pill or whatever too in order to be doubly sure to prevent pregnancy but get it into your head now - sex means condoms, no drama, no wiggle room, no "it's a mood killer" or "he'll like it less" or anything else. They put a condom on it before they stick it in you or you don't shag them, easy as 123. You can get them for free from clinics.

Secondly, RAISE YOUR STANDARDS. This guy gave you the clap, thinks of being of you like he thinks of shit ("I don't shit where I work - fucking charming!) And has clearly told you he didn't want a relationship with you multiple times. It's NOT going to develop into anything. STOP shaggi g him and hoping he will change his mind. STOP SHAGGING PEOPLE WHO GAVE YOU AN STD.

The world is your oyster, the are literally over 500 men who would like to shag you within a close radius of you if you are in London. Many who would like a relationship with you. Consider this your head wobble - FIND A BETTER MAN TO SHAG OR DATE.

NotAPan · 03/02/2020 11:20

You don't need to worry, or be cool, or warm, or off or on or ANYTHING with him at drinks or work.

YOU HOLD ALL THE POWER.

YOU get to choose to just be normal with him and everybody else and if he suggests you shag you get to say "No thanks sweetie!" with the same smile on your face as if he was asking if you'd like an instant coffee at work.

YOU HOLD ALL THE POWER.

Always remember that.

Urkiddingright · 03/02/2020 11:23

He only wants casual sex and I don’t think you’re the first or last of his current partners hence the STI. Yes, you can catch an STI having only had one sexual partner but nothing about this man points towards him being the Virgin Mary does it? I dated a guy like this when I was a similar age to you and he also gave me chlamydia. I thought we were exclusive at the time (naive AF) but the chlamydia was my wake up call to that, never spoke to him again...

Definitely always use condoms with any new or casual partner to avoid this in future. He’s shagging around, you’re ten a penny to him. When he says he doesn’t want to date a colleague, it’s because he just wants to shag them instead.

PooWillyBumBum · 03/02/2020 11:24

Jesus some of the judgemental posts in this thread. OP is early 20s, has slept with three men mentioned in the entire thread, and been tested after each of them. I’m glad she’s getting tested and letting partners know the results rather than helping to spread STDs.

OP, I hope you use this as a learning experience and protect yourself more emotionally. He sounds a bit shit (“I don’t shit where I eat”...eww) but at the same time he thinks he’s explicitly told you he doesn’t want a relationship so I can kind of see why he’s surprised you haven’t realised it’s just sex.

I would take a bit of a step back from work socially - maybe join some local clubs and try and expand your circle outside work - so it doesn’t become your whole world. Whilst loopery’s post was disgusting one thing she is right about is that people do talk. There’s a (male) person at my work whose slept with a couple of people and - rightly or wrongly - is seen as less serious because of it. Honestly, I’d get your head down, give yourself a 2-3 drink cap at work events and find somewhere else to meet eligible partners.

memberofseven · 03/02/2020 11:32

Op. My husband often has the boys from his sales force round for drinks at ours. We are in our 40's but they are all around your age. These men will say anything to get into your knickers. I'm constantly horrified hearing their exploits. He might like you a lot but you haven't made it difficult for him to get what he wants. He'll be shagging someone else as well. Casual work relationships are frowned on for a reason.

AmazingGreats · 03/02/2020 11:35

HIV can take up to 12 weeks to show up on tests, and obviously that's much scarier than chlamydia.

I would consider how your conduct at work is shaping up. The drinking and shagging (and taking to people about it). At your age most people are being a bit wild, but better to keep your work life and partying separate.

It sounds like he just wanted casual sex and that you wanted more (why were you asking a colleague if she thought you'd be good together when he'd said he didn't want to date a co-worker?) it all seems a bit chaotic and I think you need to start working on your personal boundaries if you want to end up with a good career and a healthy relationship. Unfortunately, however young you are and no matter what the culture is, these kind of mistakes can have lasting consequences.

Cappachuchu · 03/02/2020 11:37

He sounds a thoroughly nasty person, and he gave you an sti. You're well rid.

Rabbiting0n · 03/02/2020 11:49

@cosmonautkitten I think this guy is using you to stroke his ego.

When colleagues asked if you were together and he said he didn't "shit where he eats", what he was really saying, was, "Yeah, she wants to be, but I've said no".

He knew you liked him from the beginning. Since your break-up with your ex, he's reeled you back in with chats and drinks and flirtation, and he's got sex out of it, too. But all these little comments and actions which have made you feel like it was turning into something more, were done with the intention of keeping you hooked. He was funny about seeing you chatting to this other man on Friday because he didn't like the thought of your attention being directed away from him. He will probably try to reel you back in again in future, but what he says isn't genuine.

I had exactly the same thing when I was at university. A guy his age, who knew I was half in love with him. Gave me so much attention, kept me hooked, made me feel special and as though it was "only a matter of time". Then he knocked me back. It was fine. I was gutted, but I moved on. He didn't like that, so he reeled me back in again, and laid it on extra thick. People around us thought something was going on. I did, too. But then he went and hooked up with the first available woman he met. I moved on and soon met someone else. He hated that I was no longer interested. He tried to warn my new BF off me, and even tried to wade in on our sex life, despite having his own GF. He just couldn't handle not being the centre of my attention anymore, even though he'd never wanted me himself.

I think he was a narcissist. Your guy probably is, too.

Iamthewombat · 03/02/2020 12:00

I think you need to start working on your personal boundaries if you want to end up with a good career and a healthy relationship. Unfortunately, however young you are and no matter what the culture is, these kind of mistakes can have lasting consequences.

Oh come off it! So the OP will be wearing a scarlet letter for the rest of her career, will she?

Everyone will have forgotten about it in a couple of months. Especially if she shakes it off (with apologies to Taylor Swift), moves on and concentrates on doing a great job.

Sagradafamiliar · 03/02/2020 12:39

HIV can take up to 12 weeks to show up in tests

Do I need to chase up my midwife for giving a false negative, then? Seriously. Any routine HIV screening I've ever had has come back within days, are those results not accurate?

GiveHerHellFromUs · 03/02/2020 13:02

Do I need to chase up my midwife for giving a false negative, then?

Only if you've had any unprotected sex with anyone new in the last 12 weeks.

Were you only being tested for
HIV or were you being tested for other things too?

If you hadn't had any unprotected sex with anyone new in the 12 weeks prior to being tested you'll be clear.

Missarad · 03/02/2020 13:03

Also you may have given him clymidia as u may have got it from dp2 (6 month relationship) or had it for a long time. I'd just ditch him and enjoy been by your self and having girl time. Dont be someone's door mat x

Onemansoapopera · 03/02/2020 13:15

Good on you OP for refusing to feel like a shameful harlot as soooo many posters want you too.

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