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Is It In My Head?

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callysuper · 05/01/2020 00:56

I've just got home from a pretty disastrous holiday with my boyfriend (been together almost a year) - it's one of several disastrous trips where he's been moody, sulky and mean and, despite me trying allsorts to ease the tension and cheer him up and make the most of the time away, he's been unbearable. To the point where I even looked into alternative means of getting home this time round (we were in Europe). No matter what I did, he either stayed in his mood (but flat-out denied anything was wrong), or snapped and accused me of being over sensitive on the occasions I did ask him why he was so irritable. It's hard to spell out what he was doing in black and white terms, because often he'd say or do something and then either deny it or say it was a joke. Or he'd make out I was the one in the wrong. But some examples include:

Mocking me for checking beforehand that the b&b had a hairdryer. I prefer to blow dry my hair as it's quite curly, we had a nice couple of dinners planned, it's what I wanted but he laughed and scoffed and rolled his eyes and made out it was me being vain.

Suggesting we walk three miles to dinner rather than getting public transport. The dinner was in the evening, it was chucking it down, it was at a nice restaurant (he'd booked it) and the plan was for me to put a frock and heels on and get dressed up. When I suggested this wasn't ideal (initially in a jokey way, I could tell his sulk was building so didn't want to ask him WTF he was talking about), he made out he couldn't understand what my problem was. Shrugging and smirking when I pushed him on it, and when I was saying 'you really don't understand what that's not a great idea?'. In the end I felt like the one who was being a bore/difficult.

Blanked me at a restaurant when I tried to jolly him up. It sounds pathetic but I tried to sing at him and ruffle his hair (I was getting desperate to get a smile from him at this point) - he literally ignored me. Didn't look up from his menu. He did this a couple of times.

Repeatedly pretended not to hear me. Or, when I started a story would start looking at his phone. I stopped speaking and eventually he looked up and said for me to carry on. I said I'd finish when he'd finished what he was doing on his phone (scrolling through FB). He just pretended not to hear that and looked back at his phone. I didn't finish the story in the end.

Kept saying he'd made me cross, but about small things that I really wasn't cross about. Eg we went to a bar we wanted to try and it was closed and he made this big thing about 'I'm sorry, I've let you down, have I made you cross now?' but in this weird sarcastic tone. I really wasn't cross, it was just one of those things, but he kept it going.

Reading all this back I know it's not good, but I suppose I'm looking for reassurance that I'm not overreacting or over sensitive or difficult or asking for too much. I'd also like to hear from people who've been in similar positions. I'm a smart woman with a career and great friends and my own lovely home (that he takes the piss out of) and a brilliant son (he also has a couple of kids - we don't live together) and I've read enough forums to know that these are all indications of narc behaviour, so why am I questioning it and myself and obsessing over the details, rather than just telling him to fuck off? Any feedback would be most welcome. Thank you for reading.

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callysuper · 05/01/2020 09:54

Hello - I really can't thank you enough for these. I know it can't continue and will indeed end it. I've got some family stuff to attend to this weekend so need to focus on that first and then deal with him this week. That's not me trying to wriggle out of ending it, I just want to focus on the family and put him to the back of my mind for a day or two. I won't be seeing him.

@iforgotthatyouexisted you asked if it was just on holiday when he behaves this way. No, it isn't. I could count numerous occasions when he suddenly switches to this moody mode and I try to cajole him out of it. I don't know why I do that, I suppose it's in my nature to fix things, but I'm done with fixing him and our relationship. I'm a decent woman and don't need to be treated in this way.

Thank you again all for your responses. I am going to refer to them over the next few days to keep strong and not go back on any of this.

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Minnie747 · 05/01/2020 10:06

Op you will feel incredible when this draining man is out of your life.

I can very much relate to what you have written; the sly mind games, blaming you for over reacting, the asking ‘are you mad with me’, the awful trips away .. all with their altered version of events afterwards making you almost question your own sanity.

People like this erode away at you, slowly, over time. You won’t believe the difference in yourself when they’re gone.

I’ve had talking therapy too which if you can access it I would highly recommend. It is helping me identify the ‘rescuer’ need in myself and why I keep picking these men.

Good luck!

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 05/01/2020 10:12

I'm glad you're feeling stronger. I've not read the full thread, just your responses.
I don't think you were being oversensitive at all, and I don't think he has trouble expressing himself, he expressed himself very well. Hes an arsehole and playing you like a fiddle.

I don't think it will take much time away from him for you to get back to being your strong, independant self and realise how much he has drained from you.

Good luck!

jowilkinso · 05/01/2020 10:14

Not overreacting at al. Get out now.

anotherdisaster · 05/01/2020 10:16

Good luck ending things with him. He is an abusive arsehole and very similar to my ex. He used to enjoy sulking and watching me squirm, all the while claiming it was 'in my head' or 'my fault'.
He turns on the nice side every now and again to keep you interested and to make you question if he's that bad really. Its all part of the manipulation.
You definitely should not tell him any of this when you end it. Just say you don't love him and its just not working for you. He doesn't even deserve an explanation to be honest. Be prepared for tears and then anger.

callysuper · 05/01/2020 10:52

Hello you lovely people - I have asked MN to delete this thread as I'm suddenly concerned it's quite outing. First time posting to the forums and I stupidly didn't think to change any details. I have screenshot all of your brilliant replies though and can't tell you how thankful I am to have had the reassurance. Sorry to delete, I'm just a little fearful of repercussions.

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IwishIcan · 05/01/2020 10:55

he said he had no idea what I was talking about

A gaslighter as well. You have seen the light OP.

Time to set yourself free.

Sally2791 · 05/01/2020 11:14

Good luck and stay strong

woooooo · 05/01/2020 12:21

Please don't worry about being recognised from what you have posted - unfortunately there are 100s and 100s of posts about very similar BF/DH scenarios because it is TEXTBOOK behaviour of emotional abuse and gaslighting.

Don't ever doubt yourself. Text him its over, he doesn't even warrant an explanation, text, dump, block, see ya!

RebelWithVerySharpClaws · 05/01/2020 17:07

Doing the right thing to get rid of him OP. He is a gaslighting, abusive narcissist - he will always need a woman to abuse, because that is who he is. Don't let that woman be you.

Palavah · 05/01/2020 17:15

I had a similar experience with an ex - you could have been describing the same man!

The holiday wasn't the first time he'd been like that but it brought it to a head. When I saw him a couple of days after we got back I was ready to end it but he was happy and relaxed and all over me. It was such a headf*ck. I ended up calling time two months later.

Be warned - when we broke up he wanted to remain friends, I wanted some space before that could happen and he didn't really respect my boundaries and wheedled his way back into my life. Don't fall into the same trap.

BurtonHouse · 05/01/2020 17:19

Cally: You're dumped.
Dickhead: Are you mad? Why???
Cally: I don't like you.
Job done.

Disillusioneddaisy · 05/01/2020 17:41

Should a holiday really be that much hard work? It's supposed to be enjoyable! You'll probably never know what his problem is, he probably doesn't even know. Regardless it's not ok for him to treat you like that. Not only is he being shit company but he's making you doubt yourself and believe it's you that's imaging it all or expecting too much. That's quite abusive.

There are men out there who you could go away with and actually enjoy yourself. Get rid of this miserable sod.

Daisydoola · 05/01/2020 17:43

Dump his pathetic arse

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 05/01/2020 18:30

What BurtonHouse said

BumbleBeee69 · 05/01/2020 18:38

I agree DUMP his vile arse....

and please.... do NOT explain to him why.. just dump him.. Flowers

Desolate2nite · 05/01/2020 18:40

I wouldn't even give him my time if I were you. I'd dump him by text and immediately block. I know that sounds harsh but he doesn't deserve more

callysuper · 05/01/2020 23:19

@palavah every time we've got back from a terrible trip, he's done the same thing. Lots of loving messages. This is why I started making notes. They have been really helpful actually - every time he gushes about me or us, I read the notes back and remember how shit he made me feel by being so damn mean. I'm not falling for it this time. My family issues will keep me busy the next few days and then I'm dealing with it. Until then, I'm staying well away from him. Well done to you for getting away, it's ridiculous how much we put up with, isn't it?

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minmooch · 06/01/2020 07:05

I'm not sure why you can't send a text ending things and then you have your family days to distract you and get those first few days out of the way.

Windmillwhirl · 06/01/2020 07:09

He's a joy killer and misery guts. Please get rid of him.

Monty27 · 06/01/2020 07:16

He gets you out of your comfort zone and goes for vulnerability. He likes it when you feel insecure.
OP please dump him.

loserssaywhat · 06/01/2020 07:27

Ahh I have been there. I totally understand the difficulty in trying to explain and describe this kind of mental abuse.. they are very very subtle but it takes its toll.
I agree with pp, end it. I wouldn't bother trying to have a conversation or explaining yourself to him because he will simply claim ignorance and say you're over sensitive and it seems as though that tactic has worked really well for him up until now.
Classic gaslighting. Don't give him the opportunity to do it. Tell him it's over. Block him. No contact. It's truly the only thing that works with these men.
I wish you all the best of luck.

BiscoffLover · 06/01/2020 17:02

This sounds very similar to what I'm going through. I've started a thread today about it. It's hard to explain isn't it and gets you so down Thanks

Runnerduck34 · 06/01/2020 17:07

You are not overreacting , he sounds horrendous, you have done nothing wrong and deserve better, thank your lucky stars you have your own home financial independence and don't live together, get shot off him quick and yes I do think you should tell him to fuck off!
He will never change ,don't waste any more of your time or energy on him .

callysuper · 06/01/2020 17:56

@bis@BiscoffLover just read your thread - sorry you're going through this too. Lots of stuff in your post rang true - especially the bit about him being a successful man with a decent job - same with mine. Really respected professionally, everyone thinks he's great. Mine hasn't moved in but did manage to get me to give him a key to mine very early on. And all the stuff about saying they don't understand even though you tell them time and time again what it is they do that makes you so unhappy. So they keep asking and asking and you end up tied in knots. I hope you get out of your situation. I also know it probably seems I'm making excuses with mine, but I really do need to sort something else family-wise in order to have a clear head when I do tell him to get lost. Don't want to say too much as it's too outing and I'm already worried I've given too much away. I'll tell you all as soon as I've done it, there is no way I'm letting this man make me feel like this any more.

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