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Man alert!!!!!

85 replies

jackrabbit · 22/08/2007 12:19

Hi, married man of 40, gorgeous wife, 3 young kids (also gorgeous), sex life....a desert! Have tried just about everything to get things started.... candlelit baths for two, romantic weekends away, cuddling up in front of a good film etc etc.
Her libido seems to have headed south and i just think that after all day looking after the little uns there just isn't anything else left to give.
i was wondering if anyone was able to recommend some erotic fiction that may help to re-ignite the fire? i did buy "girl with a one track mind" which i know she looked at but described as pornography. Not wanting to make the same mistake twice, any ideas??
Or any other suggestions?

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DaDaDa · 22/08/2007 15:24

I'm more interested in tea and cake these days, but that's relatively easy to procure...

littlelapin · 22/08/2007 15:25

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nappyaddict · 22/08/2007 15:44

ha i've got that book! didn't think it was porno at all though.

CountessDracula · 22/08/2007 15:47

you could wear one of these

Dropdeadfred · 22/08/2007 16:06

lol CD

eyesfront · 22/08/2007 20:15

Imagine this. You give birth three times, work an 18+ hour day, often get woken in the night, spend all day redoing everthing you did yesterday, spend all day being pawed and cuddled by three small incomprehensible but strangely adorable aliens, get told that part of the job that you think is important and satisfying (housework) is a waste of time.

At last bedtime beckons - some rest, some sleep, release. But no, hubby has run a scented bath and bought you some porn to read so he can have a shag before you go to sleep. Don't tell me - not only does she have to have sex with you, but she is expected to enjoy it too and deliver a resounding OOO or you will be hurt?

I suggest you set a reminder for when your youngest is in senior school - you wife may be ready again by then if you play your cards right.

BecauseImWorthIt · 22/08/2007 20:28

jackrabbit - I really sympathise with you, and I think my dh would agree with you too!

Have you talked with your dw about the situation - really talked, rather than rowed/accused/put pressure on her to perform?

Try and talk to her about how you feel and ask her how she feels, but without pressurising her. Having different libidos/expectations of how often you should have sex is incredibly common, even before children are involved.

How do you behave physically with her during the rest of the time? I can't bear it when dh suddenly starts to instigate cuddles because I know what it presages. Regardless of whether I'm interested or not, it's nice to be cuddled without an expectation of sex!

It's a difficult subject for any of us to talk about, and if she is feeling that she doesn't want sex she will not want to talk to you about it because she knows how important it is to you, and how much she is rejecting you.

From my experience/understanding, it does seem that sex for women when they have young children is so low down their list of priorities that most men would be shocked!

Having said all of this, your needs are important and she does need to acknowledge this. If she is playing the victim/martyr, then you/she also need to recognise this. If you are in a position to organise a cleaner/someone to do the ironing, then do this too.

Bit of a rambling answer, but I hope it helps!

jackrabbit · 23/08/2007 08:05

a couple of you asked to know how it works out... well last night after receiving flowers she had a 2 hour candlit bath with ripple & twirl on the side.i kept myself out the way to give her plenty of space.
It worked! we enjoyed a rampant 4 hour shagfest into the early hours!! Ok, i made the last bit up, but i scooped her in my arms when i went to bed.
the flowers, bath, chocolate bit is all very easy, ignoring the persistent throbbing less so! one day at a time though.

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Dropdeadfred · 23/08/2007 10:02

wow..I want a bath at yours!

jackrabbit · 23/08/2007 10:15

dropdead, i'll ask her & see what she says

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Dropdeadfred · 23/08/2007 11:09

Lol...good to hear that she had a nice time though...just try not to think that she 'owes' you after all the effort you're putting in..

ProjectIcarus · 23/08/2007 11:21

I can't believe no one suggested running her a bath while you clear up the kitchen, mop floors etc.

This means that she comes downstairs all clean and refreshed and this bit is v important to a house which doesn't have any tasks waiting for her.

Give it a go.

jackrabbit · 23/08/2007 12:02

Hi project, thanks for comment & yup & try & take care of that as often as is possible.

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jackrabbit · 24/08/2007 07:15

dropdead, i asked her.........she said no problem but you'll have to bring your own chocolate

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ernest · 24/08/2007 07:34

sorry if it's already been asked, but is she taking any form of hormonal contraception? No matter how low the dose, it can have a profound affect on libido.

jackrabbit · 24/08/2007 08:33

none

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Dropdeadfred · 24/08/2007 11:20

Hmmmm..well if choccy isn't provided I may as well bathe at home with a pack of jaffa cakes...

Tell her thanks anyway...

newlifenewname · 24/08/2007 11:28

Try stuff that is absolutely NOT about sex. Candlelit baths = sex, cuddling in front of film = sex, roody fiction = sex, weekend away = sex. Unless she is stupid and you are stupid you and she both know this so you might as well be saying "can we have sex please?" each time you do these things.

Instead, try offering to go to Sainsbury's, mopping and vacuuming and doing the laundry for the week, buying her and her friends tickets to somewhere fun, making her dinner, giving her a lie in, taking her shopping and then after a couple of weeks of this start with a meal out, wine, movie, massage and finally sex - and let her initiate. Women do know how to initiate, they just have to feel like it

Oh and tell her how gorgeous she is in a non wanting sex way ;)

flightattendant · 24/08/2007 16:37

Yup. Everyones right.

I know what it feels like NOT to have any strength left for even thinking about sex, let alone doing it...

The only way this would alter is if I knew beyond all doubt that my partner didn't care if we were shagging or not...I mean, of course he has to fancy me but not mind if I'm too exhausted.

You have to partake in her work. You have to dive right in and do everything with her, be a real gent - no pampering necessary, just normal, hard work stuff, together.

The only problem you two have is that hyur preoccupation is currently sex, while hers is being a good housewife/mum etc to the best of her ability.

It's really important to her so try not to minimise it, but join in if you like...then she is most likely to join in with YOUR preoccupation, iyswim.

That's all just from my perspective. You need to be on the same wavelength and she will be watching you adoringly if she's anything like me, as you show her you care about the same stuff she does.

Good luck!

flightattendant · 24/08/2007 16:38

Sorry that was 'your' preoccupation. Not 'hyur'.

HappyDaddy · 24/08/2007 16:40

Good stuff, matey. From your jokes, I can see you're still focussing on sex as the end result. You need to try and get past all that.

Dropdeadfred · 24/08/2007 17:55

But to be honest, this guy loves his wife and obviously doesn't treat her as a slave, dogsbody etc,,,but he'd be lying through his teeth if he said it wasn't about sex at the end of the day. Yes he wants her to feel good etc but he wants her to feel up for it too...
And that's not a crime.

OrmIrian · 24/08/2007 19:33

No. It's prefectly natural for him to be focusing on sex. But it's also perfectly natural for a dog-tired women with too many demands on her energy to look at sex as just another chore. Shocking I know but there we are.

I think that jackrabbit sounds like a decent sort of DH who really cares but 'at the end of the day' many women I know are too blardy tired and simply want to spend some time on their own with no-one asking anything of her. The only answer is to make her less tired and more relaxed on a permanent basis. Or it will be sex for jackrabbit's sake and to get him off her back (so to speak). And I sense that isn't what he wants at all.

jackrabbit · 03/09/2007 06:50

Update..........well, am managing to do some of the things that you all suggested resulting in more downtime her for in the evenings.She's most appreciative and feeling more her old self, we've even broached the subject of pash although thats as far as we've got so far, talking about it, although she did let slip (after 14 years!!!!!!!) that often she prefers being licked to actual intercourse, ladies you have been most helpful so far and i hope you may continue to be so (and i know that this sort of thing gets discussed on here as i'v e read the "how to give a BJ thread!!!), so well ladies, perfect cunninglingus? how do i blow her mind?

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jackrabbit · 04/09/2007 08:13

not one response, ladies you've let me (& her!!) down
LOL

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