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OH - should I go?

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Lizzo7444 · 30/11/2019 00:04

Hi
I’m not sure if this is the right place to even write this, but I feel stuck and hurt.
I’ve been in a relationship with my partner for almost 10 years. We aren’t married, but we have two children together (I will keep their ages private). He also has an older child from a previous relationship, and we get on really well and have a good level of respect when here.
My partner smokes, both tobacco & weed and he has done since he was young so long before we were together. I don’t know the true cost but it will be hundreds a month. I will clear it up now that he is never physically violent to myself or the children, nor does he speak aggressively to them. He doesn’t smoke around them, and they don’t see or know of weed in the house.
When he doesn’t have baccy, he’s just a bit agitated. He is a tiny bit snappy but no more so than I might be around a certain time of the month. When he doesn’t have weed, he’s impossible to be around. He won’t speak, and when he does it’s swear word filled sarcasm.
He doesn’t care about the smell of it, and refuses to use air freshener to cover up the smell.
He leaves dirty clothes on the floor and bits of tobacco rizla etc on the floor by his drawers and says that’s ‘not my problem’.
Money is an issue. We aren’t skint, but we aren’t well off. He doesn’t care about the bills or finances so I am ‘in charge’ of them and he just gives me money each month towards them. I’ve tried to get him involved before so he can calm down the weed as it was leaving us with no money, but he borrowed money or just got weed on ‘tick’.
Every week we get about £50 benefit for the children, and he asks for money out of it for weed and baccy. Weekly, without fail. As I’m ‘in charge’ of the bills / money, I use their money predominantly on them. So the weekly money goes on their lunches, dinners, activities and bits of fresh food for them throughout the week. He says I’m being selfish.
This is then the point he will go to his mum and say that WE are short of money for food for the kids and can WE borrow £30/£40. She will happily lend the money because WE need the money and she doesn’t want US to go without.
He will then get tobacco, some weed cash, and then some ‘tick’.
Repeat this weekly.
Then get to payday, and he owes out whatever he owes to whoever he gets it from, WE owe his mum usually about £100, and then our usual bills on top (which leave us with about £200 on a good month).
He tells me he’s not addicted to weed and could happily go without it, but doesn’t want to. His best friend is a mirror image of him, personality and everything and they both think the same so that’s his go-to for support; someone who also doesn’t think logically.

Due to his weed intake his paranoia is through the roof, he accuses me of historical cheating (which I have never done), asks me why I own sexy underwear if I never wear it anymore, why we don’t have sex often, why I have an excuse for not having sex all the time, why am I distant, why do I work full time, why do I have a credit card, do I look at other men instead of him, and I’ve given him the simple response of “I’m exhausted.” It’s exhausting being mum, keeping house, I do everything in the house too (cooking, cleaning, shopping, washing etc) I work quite a stressful job but I do like it, but he’s exhausting me and I don’t feel attractive to someone who is constantly undermining me.
After work I get home, put the kids to bed, have a shower, and go to bed myself. Most nights I don’t eat dinner as I don’t get time.
Weekends are spent doing the washing I haven’t had time to do in the week, shopping, and trying to do homework and prepare for the week ahead.
I get my nails done once every three weeks by a friend for a very very minimal cost and he says it’s a waste of money. I haven’t had my hair done in over two years because it’s a ‘waste of money’. I don’t get my eyebrows done anymore because he says I don’t need them doing, so that’s a waste of money too.
I treated myself when I got a promotion at work to a new phone (bought it outright with the bonus) and I had to return it because I ‘didn’t need it and we could have used that money on something better for the family’.
If I get myself new clothes I’m now getting them from charity shops and getting receipts to save the headache.

My priority is my kids, and he is forever moaning that I don’t see him as a priority. Feels like he just cares about himself, not me, and wants the world to revolve around him.
He is getting weed from at least 3 different people (and that’s that I know of) and I saw him give £100 to one person today (payday) which is 10% of his wages.
I have tried to work our via a benefit calculator life without him and I can’t do it, I’d lose the house, I couldn’t afford to work and I couldn’t afford childcare. I’ve worked my absolute ass off to get where I am in my job now and I don’t want to give it up for a lowlife (I see that’s what he is) like him, but I don’t know what to do.
He isn’t willing to change but I don’t know if it’s abuse or what I can actually do. It’s not directly impacting the children, as I make sure their needs are met over my own. I’m going without food, a life basically so that they get a proper diet, activities, clothes, etc.
I’m terrified for my children of moving on that I couldn’t provide for them how I am now if I leave, but I don’t know what to do.
He tells me I’m neglecting him by not giving him sex and coming up with too many excuses, but he won’t actually take on board any of the issues or take LIFE seriously.

OP posts:
Ilovethekitties · 30/11/2019 00:16

Christ.

I mean he is awful in many ways and I think you're a saint for being with him so long, but the bottom line is that he is taking from your children to feed his habit - that is disgusting.

He is a slob and a loser; the fact he thinks after all of his assholerly that you'd want to fuck him is laughable.

But seriously, is he willing to get help? Does he recognise that he has a problem? If the answers to those two questions is no, your life will not change, he will keep taking from your kids and sounds like will ultimately get into drug debt, which isn't a place you want to be. You should leave, you will he able to manage, you are managing on your own already.

Annasgirl · 30/11/2019 00:19

Oh dear OP. He is abusing you. How is yiur housing situation? Do you rent? Whose name is on the tenancy? Do you have family who could support you?
I think you should contact Women’s Aid for immediate help and they could advise you on how to get out of this situation

GinAndBubbles · 30/11/2019 00:22

Exactly what PP said

category12 · 30/11/2019 00:22

OK, so you lose the house. Sell up - get somewhere smaller you can afford or rent? Is that really so bad? You could make it nice, make it your own.

Childcare - would you be entitled to any government help? Could family help? Could you work from home sometimes or work flexibly, compressed hours, that sort of thing?

Lizzo7444 · 30/11/2019 08:16

We rent, it’s a joint tenancy but it took us a long time to get this place (it’s a lovely house, lovely area, I’ve spent thousands doing it up, fully carpeted it out with underlay etc).
He doesn’t see weed as a problem, he sees it as he’s been to work, he can spend his wages on what he wants. I told him that I can smell it on my clothes when I’m out the house and he seems to think that’s funny and that means he has some better weed than usual.

Re work there’s not an option to work from home but I recently (Sept) got a promotion which stipulated I also worked full time (37.5 hours). I’ve been off Friday (unrelated) so when I go back I’ll have to ask the question. My job still has scope to go further and I don’t particularly want to take a step back if I can help it just because of him, means he’s got his way almost as he didn’t want me working full time.
Unfortunately all my family are either working full time themselves or too far away so I don’t have the option there for childcare purposes.

I overthink everything (wonderful flaw) so I think if I leave and he has to get his own place, it would just be an absolute shit hole. He fully admits mess doesn’t bother him, and if it wasn’t for me tidying up after him he would leave his dirty washing strewn everywhere, so what if I wasn’t there?
I know that he would still be seeing the children and having them, but I couldn’t police the cleanliness of his home.

It’s feels weird, but I don’t even feel any sadness towards the situation, I don’t really feel anything at the moment, is that normal??

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 30/11/2019 08:26

he made you return your new phone yet he wastes money on weed every month. what a selfish bastard and asking for your dc's benefit money for himself is really selfish.

ferrier · 30/11/2019 08:29

You don't want to be with him? Then you should go. You will manage. It may be hard but it will be a better life than you are living now. At the moment all your hard work is funding his weed habit.

madcatladyforever · 30/11/2019 08:34

Why are you living with this cretin? He is dragging you down 1000% and he IS abusive. You could have a really nice life without him. He is a waste of space.
LTB.

Lllot5 · 30/11/2019 08:36

You need to leave him. It will be hard financially,emotionally, you will be better off. I know you don’t think so but you will.
He is a prick of the first order spending money on drugs rather than his own children.
Find a way leave him.

fit4more · 30/11/2019 08:41

He spends all that money on weed but you getting your nails done is a waste of money? I don’t even need to read any more. He’s vile. You know you deserve better. My DH smokes weed so I get it. He doesn’t spout crap like that to me though. He’s taking the utter piss out of you. Time to dump

DBML · 30/11/2019 08:41

Your first post is full of contradictions. You don’t struggle for money, yet you were being left with no money; he a bit snippy, but then unbearable to be around etc

You are still ‘standing up for him’, yet he so doesn’t deserve it. You make excuses for him, to try to make his behaviour more acceptable, because you’ve loved him.

This man isn’t going to change. He’s got a terrible habit and one day the kids will know about it and may even be influenced by it.

He’s horrible, selfish and quite frankly a disgusting druggie. His treatment of you will only worsen.

I’m a massive advocate of couples making the effort to have sex in a marriage and not allow each other to feel neglected or rejected...but even I wouldn’t want to have sex with this guy if he were my partner.

I really hope you find the strength to leave him. He’s not a good partner or a good dad. I can only tell you how wonderful it is to be in a relationship with a caring man - you won’t even know right now bless you. Yet, you deserve a caring partner and could have that in your future if you free yourself from this loser. Your children could have a wonderful father figure instead of a snippy, agitated, lazy, pig of a drug addict.

Wishing you all the best for your future.

Lorddenning1 · 30/11/2019 09:39

I could of written this post myself a few years ago, but throw gambling into the mix too. I worked full time and did everything around the house, weekends were a nightmare because he used to stay up late and play xbox and then sleep all day, his get up and go was long gone (I find that's the case with smoking weed) their ambition and drive was ruined. In the end I started to hate and resent him with made our relationship worst, que loads of arguments, even around the children. We both got to the point that we realised if we stayed together we would damage the children, so we split. Another factor for me is the kids were little and didn't know what daddy did, but they wouldn't be little forever and once grown up they would know and think it was acceptable and I didn't want that for them. I work full time, oldest is at school, little one is at nursery, I get help with childcare from Universal credit, which helps me pay for childcare for both of them. I don't have lots of money but we do ok, better than we did with him.

areyouafraidofthedark · 30/11/2019 09:42

Have you spoke to his mum about his addiction?

alwaysmovingforwards · 30/11/2019 09:43

He sounds like a bit of a loser yet you defend him so obviously have feelings for him.

Only you can decide if that's good enough for you and your kids nor not.

pinkyredrose · 30/11/2019 09:47

If you threw him out would he stay gone? You may well be able to claim housing and council tax benefits.

minmooch · 30/11/2019 09:47

I read about half of your original post - that was enough for me to think why the fuck are you with this man?

He's addicted to weed and this will always come before you and your children. You know this as you have lived it for 10 years.

Time to put you and the children first. Don't ruin their lives for the sake of a shit father. And that is what he is - a shit father and a shit partner.

Get him out of your life. Show your children that their mother is strong and puts them before a weak stupid man who doesn't put his own children before his weed habit.

Lorddenning1 · 30/11/2019 10:00

It's not as straight forward to someone who is living it, after 10 years it starts to become the norm, and just because someone is not right for you doesn't mean that you stop loving them. When there are kids involved there is a lot of guilt involved, separating a family etc she minimising the behaviour to justify spending 10 years with someone and it wasn't all that bad in the grand scheme of things, I got to the point where I justified staying with mine, with phases like well he doesn't hit or cheat on me, other people have it worst. I know that's crazy to hear. The fact u have started a thread and asked for advice is the first step and I think hand on heart u know this isn't the way to live your life for you or your children, but making that leap is hard, good luck OP.

Lizzo7444 · 30/11/2019 10:00

@areyouafraidofthedark his mum knows he smokes it (as does all his family) and she has said previously ‘if I find out you’re spending this money on weed this is the last time I lend you money’ yet when I tell her he’s still spending it on weed she still lets him borrow more. He is her baby, it’s annoying how much she dotes on him actually but she doesn’t realise how damaging it is. I got paid yesterday and I’m seeing her tomorrow and I’ll be telling her that I’m not paying for anything he borrowed, he can sort it himself as I want to get Christmas presents and I don’t think that’s an unreasonable thing to say either.

I will always love him, he’s the father of my babies. When he is nice he’s really loving, but it’s deciding whether that’s enough to stay and put up with all this crap. I’ve had to stop carrying cash on me as it magically vanishes out of my purse too, he says he needs it for work. He spends about £8-£10 a DAY on lunch too, I told him I’d buy him stuff for sandwiches and he said he didn’t want sandwiches as he needs warm food for work.
He says I’m obsessed with money but I wouldn’t say I’m obsessed, just that I watch it as we run low on it, which we wouldn’t run so low if he calmed down his lifestyle.
I don’t know ugh.

OP posts:
pog100 · 30/11/2019 10:19

OH OP read this as if you were an outsider. It's so so obvious that you can't stay with this idiot. Whatever the financial consequences you have to split. As the kids get older it will become more and more obvious what he is like. Just bite the bullet and get the ball rolling. It's the only answer.

CrotchetyQuaver · 30/11/2019 10:20

I think you should kick him out back to his mothers where they can all smoke weed and live in la la land and you and your DC stay in the house. You should like there's something about you, whereas he sounds like a loser. I hope you can make the figures stack up to finance any childcare and make this happen Thanks

CrotchetyQuaver · 30/11/2019 10:22

Should read. "You sound like there's something to you whereas he sounds like a loser"

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/11/2019 10:30

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

All you have done here this past 10 years is enable him and put him first and foremost. Enabling has given you a false sense of control and this along with your own codependency issues has cost both you and your kids dearly. Regardless of the age they are, they certainly know that things are not great between you and their dad in this house (which is really akin to a warzone). They do not have to even see him smoke for them to smell it on his clothes and they are certainly seeing how he treats you (and in turn them) at first hand.

The first step out is often the hardest one to take but take it you must. Do you really want your children to model this dysfunctional relationship for their own selves, why has this been supposedly enough for you to date?. You need to ask yourself why it is that you got at all involved with this person in the first place let alone have two children by him (the only good actually to have come out of this at all). Did you also think that when he became a father he would somehow magically change and become a decent sort of man and or father?.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?.
Did you see this model at home or something, how is it that you and he hooked up together at all. Did you meet him when you were in a bad place yourself or say in your late teens?.

He can and indeed should go back to his mother's, it is not your problem where he goes and if he lives in a hovel so be it. You have a choice re this man and your children do not. Make better choices for your own self going forward and love your own self for a change.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/11/2019 10:37

And if you also think your children are not being at all affected by his abuse of you within this house of horrors then you are dead wrong on that as well.

GertrudeCB · 30/11/2019 10:45

I am so glad that you dont feel sadness at the thought of this ending, that means that you are ready to put yourself first and get rid of the millstone around your neck.

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 30/11/2019 11:49

Calling you selfish for wanting to spend the kids benefit money on food for the kids etc is absolutely disgusting. He sounds like a complete waste of space. His weed addiction, and it is an addiction not a habit, is ruining your lives and your kids lives. And your kids will think this is normal and either be like that themselves or end up with someone who acts the same way. Sorry to sound harsh but I think it needs to end

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