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OH - should I go?

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Lizzo7444 · 30/11/2019 00:04

Hi
I’m not sure if this is the right place to even write this, but I feel stuck and hurt.
I’ve been in a relationship with my partner for almost 10 years. We aren’t married, but we have two children together (I will keep their ages private). He also has an older child from a previous relationship, and we get on really well and have a good level of respect when here.
My partner smokes, both tobacco & weed and he has done since he was young so long before we were together. I don’t know the true cost but it will be hundreds a month. I will clear it up now that he is never physically violent to myself or the children, nor does he speak aggressively to them. He doesn’t smoke around them, and they don’t see or know of weed in the house.
When he doesn’t have baccy, he’s just a bit agitated. He is a tiny bit snappy but no more so than I might be around a certain time of the month. When he doesn’t have weed, he’s impossible to be around. He won’t speak, and when he does it’s swear word filled sarcasm.
He doesn’t care about the smell of it, and refuses to use air freshener to cover up the smell.
He leaves dirty clothes on the floor and bits of tobacco rizla etc on the floor by his drawers and says that’s ‘not my problem’.
Money is an issue. We aren’t skint, but we aren’t well off. He doesn’t care about the bills or finances so I am ‘in charge’ of them and he just gives me money each month towards them. I’ve tried to get him involved before so he can calm down the weed as it was leaving us with no money, but he borrowed money or just got weed on ‘tick’.
Every week we get about £50 benefit for the children, and he asks for money out of it for weed and baccy. Weekly, without fail. As I’m ‘in charge’ of the bills / money, I use their money predominantly on them. So the weekly money goes on their lunches, dinners, activities and bits of fresh food for them throughout the week. He says I’m being selfish.
This is then the point he will go to his mum and say that WE are short of money for food for the kids and can WE borrow £30/£40. She will happily lend the money because WE need the money and she doesn’t want US to go without.
He will then get tobacco, some weed cash, and then some ‘tick’.
Repeat this weekly.
Then get to payday, and he owes out whatever he owes to whoever he gets it from, WE owe his mum usually about £100, and then our usual bills on top (which leave us with about £200 on a good month).
He tells me he’s not addicted to weed and could happily go without it, but doesn’t want to. His best friend is a mirror image of him, personality and everything and they both think the same so that’s his go-to for support; someone who also doesn’t think logically.

Due to his weed intake his paranoia is through the roof, he accuses me of historical cheating (which I have never done), asks me why I own sexy underwear if I never wear it anymore, why we don’t have sex often, why I have an excuse for not having sex all the time, why am I distant, why do I work full time, why do I have a credit card, do I look at other men instead of him, and I’ve given him the simple response of “I’m exhausted.” It’s exhausting being mum, keeping house, I do everything in the house too (cooking, cleaning, shopping, washing etc) I work quite a stressful job but I do like it, but he’s exhausting me and I don’t feel attractive to someone who is constantly undermining me.
After work I get home, put the kids to bed, have a shower, and go to bed myself. Most nights I don’t eat dinner as I don’t get time.
Weekends are spent doing the washing I haven’t had time to do in the week, shopping, and trying to do homework and prepare for the week ahead.
I get my nails done once every three weeks by a friend for a very very minimal cost and he says it’s a waste of money. I haven’t had my hair done in over two years because it’s a ‘waste of money’. I don’t get my eyebrows done anymore because he says I don’t need them doing, so that’s a waste of money too.
I treated myself when I got a promotion at work to a new phone (bought it outright with the bonus) and I had to return it because I ‘didn’t need it and we could have used that money on something better for the family’.
If I get myself new clothes I’m now getting them from charity shops and getting receipts to save the headache.

My priority is my kids, and he is forever moaning that I don’t see him as a priority. Feels like he just cares about himself, not me, and wants the world to revolve around him.
He is getting weed from at least 3 different people (and that’s that I know of) and I saw him give £100 to one person today (payday) which is 10% of his wages.
I have tried to work our via a benefit calculator life without him and I can’t do it, I’d lose the house, I couldn’t afford to work and I couldn’t afford childcare. I’ve worked my absolute ass off to get where I am in my job now and I don’t want to give it up for a lowlife (I see that’s what he is) like him, but I don’t know what to do.
He isn’t willing to change but I don’t know if it’s abuse or what I can actually do. It’s not directly impacting the children, as I make sure their needs are met over my own. I’m going without food, a life basically so that they get a proper diet, activities, clothes, etc.
I’m terrified for my children of moving on that I couldn’t provide for them how I am now if I leave, but I don’t know what to do.
He tells me I’m neglecting him by not giving him sex and coming up with too many excuses, but he won’t actually take on board any of the issues or take LIFE seriously.

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 30/11/2019 12:01

I think if I met him, I’d think he was a complete loser. What benefit is there to being with him?

HollowTalk · 30/11/2019 12:01

OP, spend ten minutes on this government calculator to see what your financial situation would be if you booted this complete waste of space out of your home.

How you've put up with him for so long is a mystery to me.

Your children will smell of weed all the time, even if they don't know what it is. Get them out of that situation. I wouldn't let the kids stay with him overnight if his home was like that. Doubt he'd be bothered about that, tbh.

category12 · 30/11/2019 12:08

If it's a council or housing association property, then the rent can't be that unaffordable on your own. (I can't understand why you would spend so much on improvements if it's a private tenancy).

cantdecide1 · 30/11/2019 12:57

Hi your situation is really similar to mine I have been with my OH for 21 years and he has never been willing to change. We are at the point where his habits are going to make us lose everything.. and a couple of bereavements made me realise I am wasting my life on him. I felt stuck because of money but went on the turn to us website calculated it as single and renting.. and shockingly I will be financially better off. Like your man my OH is nice when everything is going his way so it's hard but I am looking at rental properties and trying to move out. It's been hard because of the situation my credit is poor but I think everything will be better when I move out and I think it will be for you too. If you fancy a chat because we have such similar situations feel free to private message me x

marvellousnightforamooncup · 30/11/2019 13:08

Kick him out to his mum's or leave. No carpet is worth having to put up with this man. It's bad for you but it's awful for the kids.

Grumpelstilskin · 30/11/2019 15:06

Basically, you enabled an addict for 10 years.

Grumpelstilskin · 30/11/2019 15:09

A lot of people trot out the mantra that weed isn't addictive. I used to smoke a bit when younger but the difference was that I could take or leave it and it was a luxury. But many, including him cannot go without. If he started smoking young, it will have had a pretty bad impact on his mental health. There are numerous studies on that. And you are subjected your kids to that.

Dery · 05/12/2019 09:40

You need to kick him out. Or you and the DCs need to leave but it really should be him who goes. This situation is really damaging for you and your DCs. The fact that he can be lovely some of the time is not remotely enough. He’s an irresponsible loser who knowingly steals from you and your children. And the fact that having children was not enough to make him change his ways and become responsible tells you everything you need to know. Your children need you to protect them from this situation - they can’t protect themselves so you have to. Your first duty is to them, not to your partner. You don’t want your DCs to grow up thinking this is normal because they will likely repeat the cycle, either as addicts themselves or in a co-dependent relationship with an addict. It may impact on your DCs’ social lives also as they get older - if their clothes smell of weed other parents may not want their DCs to come to your house. And they may get teased at school for smelling odd. They’re already being deprived as a result of their father’s habit. They may also be shamed and hurt as a result of it. After you’ve got rid of him, you may find it helpful to read “Women who love too much” by Robin Norwood.

ArkAtEee · 05/12/2019 10:53

OP, he sounds awful and I really think you should consider getting him to leave for all the reasons PPs have mentioned.

Regarding childcare, would you be able to change your hours to times when the children are in bed? It would be knackering but would allow you to keep your job. If your children are at school, could you have a reciprocal childcare arrangement with another school parent you trust? Or breakfast/after school club?

It sounds very hard for you, but I think you should consider whatever may help you split with him. If you cut him off, you'll be hundreds of pounds a month better off and will also have single person discount on council tax.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/12/2019 11:19

OMG. I can't believe you need to ask.

What a fucking loser.

Please have some self respect and show your children what this looks like too.

Every week we get about £50 benefit for the children, and he asks for money out of it for weed and baccy.

Father of the year!

Quartz2208 · 05/12/2019 14:46

Yes he should leave the tenancy and see if you can get your name on it (why on earth did you spend money on it)

Lizzo7444 · 05/12/2019 20:15

Been a bit hectic past few days but thanks all for the replies it’s refreshing to see I’m not going crazy in my thoughts.
I’ve approached my landlord who has said she would be happy to offer me an exchange to another property and remove him from the tenancy, but nobody wants to move before Christmas. She’s happy to give some money back towards the decorating but about half what I’ve paid (it was plaster and tile floor when we moved in so had to be decorated).
He’s been telling his friends (not that I give a single eff) that I’m neglecting him by not giving him money but his friends are actually in agreement with me that he spends above his means, but I should probably show him some affection more often so he knows he’s loved. I’ve not even gone into any detail back to them other than telling them to butt out and told my (still) OH that he needs to speak to ME to sort this and not his cretin friends who he smokes with.
Yeah I’m just gonna go have sex with someone that I’m being rinsed dry by and not happy with. Sure. Idiots.

My work isn’t flexible unfortunately. It would probably involve me downgrading my position. I’ve done the benefit calculator and I’m still on the old legacy benefits so I’d get switched to UC, which I know would be a headache but I can’t avoid it. I’d rely on it heavily too I think.

OP posts:
SandyY2K · 06/12/2019 00:53

I don't know how you've put up with this for so long.

He's a sorry excuse for a man being blunt. I don't like to slate him...but he is a poor role model for a dad and he is abusing you.

You'd be better off without him, because you have determination and you have financial independence...

You have the desire to give your children a good life and build a future for them.

He doesn't feature in that...because he only thinks if himself... is he the partner you'd want a daughter of yours to have?

Would he honestly want his DD to be with a man like him.

You sound way too sensible and on a different path in life to him.

Thatagain · 06/12/2019 11:17

Op I understand you completely! I also smoke a little. He is smoking to extreme that money is going up in smoke that's not on. You need to talk to him like what is he thinking? Once you are stoned you can't get more stoned that's a fact. Is he buying fake weed? I've smoked most of my life from about 7 spliffs a day to haveing half of a spliff now. He is takeing the pi$$ he needs to appreciate the green and not abuse it and certainly not lend or take money from you to do it. He only need 1 a day that is fact and true. It's not addictive it's moreish so you need to tell him he is wasting money as it's not like alcohol as you can go from tipsy to drunk. When you have a joint it's impossible to get more stoned.

Lizzo7444 · 07/12/2019 20:26

@Thatagain he will have between 5-7 a day (mixed with baccy) and it drives me insane.

Tbh the past few days we have been strangers living in the same house and once the kids are at school / nursery I’m telling him I’m done.
I went out with some friends for the first time in about two years last night and they’ve echoed a lot of everybody else’s opinions from on here (with a lot more wine infused swear words) and as soon as I got home, despite not talking to me all week, I got “What card can I use for baccy”. And I just stood there and rolled my eyes and said “Your fucking own.”

He’s not sleeping in bed with me anymore so I’m taking the opportunity to plan my life. I know the rent on the place my landlord is exchanging me to (it won’t be for at least a month), but I need to figure out work, childcare, etc.

I’m always known as the optimist at work, when things get hectic and shit hits the fan I’m the one telling people to keep their heads up we’ll get through it, and we always do.
I’m now taking a leaf out of my working selfs book and going to be strong for the kids and make sure I’m prepared for them because it’s going to devastate my eldest (8), not so sure about my youngest (2).
But like others have said I can’t promote this sort of behaviour.

Thanks everyone. You’re all fab.

OP posts:
Therebythedoor · 07/12/2019 21:12

Wow! You are pretty fab yourself!

christmassymcchristmas · 07/12/2019 21:27

It won't devastate your eldest! You do the thing you do at work and give them the positives, the reassurance that you are both still there etc. Your kids being around drugs etc and his attitude will be much more devastating.

You can get rid of him and I'm glad you're going to. You can do much better than that

Lozzerbmc · 07/12/2019 23:23

This sounds an utterly miserable life for you and the DCs...

Lozzerbmc · 07/12/2019 23:24

So great you are going to change it - you can do it!

LannieDuck · 07/12/2019 23:38

I can't imagine how you wouldn't be better off on your own with the kids. Good luck.

Interestedwoman · 07/12/2019 23:45

'a lowlife (I see that’s what he is)'

You're not wrong. He's a scabby chav and you aren't- of course you aren't going to want sex with him, any more than you would with any other person who begs and steals for drugs.

You will be ok financially and your kids'll be ok too- please go for it. I couldn't stand a day with this smelly tramp, and I'm sure you feel the same.

DeathByPicolax · 08/12/2019 06:12

OP you are doing the right thing.
Reading this is like reading about my life as it could have been.
I had a lovely boyfriend. This was decades ago (I'm old). I still think of him as one of the nicest people I have ever known or met but....weed. We dated for about four years and I adored him but it got more and more of a grip on him. He used to spend half the night around his mates and they would all smoke weed. He then lost his job because he was tired out or baked all the time. I dumped him and moved away because he could not or would not stop with the bloody weed and he would not take resposibility for himself.
I knew I had to move away because I would get hoovered back in but he was in the grip of it and spent everything he had on it and then some. We had saved money to get married and we put in an equal amount each week and it mounted up to a tidy sum (thousands). When we separated, we drew it out and halved it. He said he had never had so much money in his life. Every penny went on weed. I know this because I am still friendly with his sister. I hadn't seen him for thirty years and I caught sight of someone shuffling along using a stick that looked like him and it was him! I couldn't believe my eyes and wanted to cry. He had had a fall whilst off his tits and hit his head and had a stroke. I gave him a hug. What did he smell of? Fucking weed!
Anyone that thinks it's harmless is deluded. It's not a one size fits all drug. Some people can smoke a spliff and leave well alone for nine months and some people get gripped by it.
Follow your instincts and get away. He will try and get you to stay because you are providing his lifestyle. He may get nasty so take care.

dottydolly72 · 08/12/2019 06:57

What a strong woman you are 🙌 you my lovely are going to be just fine! This time next year look back and see what you have achieved.. it wont happen with this dead weight hanging around.

JoyceJames · 08/12/2019 07:10

5-7 a day? That's a real addiction, with withdrawal symptoms and everything. You are right to get out.

AlwaysCheddar · 08/12/2019 07:55

I’m glad you’re taking action as he really is abusive and it’s a dangerous position for your kids to be in. Get out and don’t feel guilty. He’s nasty.

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