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Giving an ex a second chance

115 replies

Melissa58 · 19/11/2019 18:26

Hi all

So I was with a guy for 13 years, we had two children together but spilt the end of last year. Throughout the relationship I gave my all, he was great at times and loving but proposed twice and both times backed out due to his 'personal issues' with commitment and marriage. He would never get a joint bank account. He controlled every penny when I was out of work caring for our babies before returning to work. Even then I'd pay all childcare costs with my low income and nothing was dealt with as a couple. Towards the end, he was nasty and spoke badly towards me even in front of my kids. After 13 years of giving chance after chance I finally ended it for good.

I built myself up after he'd destroyed me mentally and emotionally, I became independent and started to enjoy being single. Then about five months ago he pleads for another chance, says he's a changed man, it'll all be different this time. I said I was happy single and just wanted to find myself, maybe go on a few dates. He basically said it's him or dating as he's not waiting around (I never asked or expected him to). Me being me gave into the pressure and said I'll give it another shot.

So four months back together, he's doing everything right and trying to make me happy, doing the things I longed for before. He's even gone as far as getting the snip because the pill has never agreed with me, no contraceptive has. He did that two months in when I said don't do it for me, you must be sure and do it for yourself. He says he doesn't want anymore kids, but also now says we know he did it for me.
No matter how hard I try though, my feings towards him are not the same as they once was. Everything is forced for me. Sometimes I'm content and think I can make it work, especially for the sake of the children and him as I don't want to hurt him. I'm not in love with him anymore though, and I wonder will I get this back. I don't know what to do for the best and how long I should give it! It's consuming me and making me miserable.

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PicsInRed · 20/11/2019 19:57

No. Take the financial settlement he's trying to get out of delivering. File for divorce. No more begging that bastard for pennies. Flowers

Melissa58 · 20/11/2019 20:16

He hasn't threatened suicide as such, just told me that's how he got when we split. But yes why tell me! Making me feel guilt when it's him that pushed me to end things.

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Elieza · 20/11/2019 20:23

He mentions suicide and that he got the snip for you.
ie you can’t ever leave.

What a manipulative guy he is.
I’d be out of that relationship like a whippet from a trap.

Sometimes no matter how convenient or nice it would be to love someone again you just can’t. The magic has been worn away. It won’t come back. Time to go. And don’t worry about the suicide. You arent responsible for his choices. Chances are he wouldn’t anyway. Most people don’t threaten they just take action. He’s threatening. Should therefore be ok. Phone the emergency services if you are concerned at any point.

Melissa58 · 20/11/2019 20:23

And I do love him, I'm just not IN love with him

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Melissa58 · 20/11/2019 20:29

For some reason I expected some to say stay and try abit longer with him changing his ways, silly me. I 2as afraid of posting on here as deep down knew my answer as to what I should do.

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Longfacenow · 20/11/2019 20:30

I think you have done the right thing in giving it a second chance. It is very sad that your hopes for your family aren't going to happen, but you really have to be true to yourself. This doesn't sound like a must try harder, go to more counselling situation, but rather that you were very badly hurt and as much as you (both, as far as you are concerned) have tried, the heart won't let you forget. You haven't lost anything. You will now know that you tried, and can move forward with what needs to happen for you to be happy. Guilt has no place here, you did give him a second chance.

HappyintheHills · 20/11/2019 20:55

Perhaps you posted because deep down you knew what to do and knew you would be supported here?

Startingoveragain1 · 20/11/2019 20:56

Im a firm believer in trying... but in your case i think youve tried and then some. I mean, after u broke up and u got your life together, he comes back tryin to win u back with an ultimatum? Me or dating? Hi? You were happy then! I think maybe u made a mistake there... and he sounds like he is quite manipulative op... suicide? I got the snip because of u? If he truly loved you , he wouldnt be putting those burdens on u.

QuentinWinters · 20/11/2019 21:04

Some great posts here. It's up to you what you do. Also you dont have to decide now if you don't want to. Theres no rush

Melissa58 · 20/11/2019 21:37

We aren't married. In the post it says how he proposed twice but he always backed out of getting married.

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HappyintheHills · 21/11/2019 13:57

Did the proposals pull you back in line?

LannieDuck · 21/11/2019 16:44

You don't owe him a relationship.

He wants one, but you don't. What you want is just as important as what he wants. He might not like it, but you've fallen out of love with him (and for very good reasons). Your happiness is enough reason to say 'no', you don't need to justify it any further.

Melissa58 · 21/11/2019 18:01

@happyintheHills yes it pulled me back in and made me believe he wanted it and we'd be okay then last year as we were about to book the wedding he says can we postpone, I'd only waited 13 years already!

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helpmum2003 · 21/11/2019 18:07

Please do not get back with him. You and your DC deserve better.

Melissa58 · 22/11/2019 07:00

I've told him my hearts not in it, he broke down and says how much he really truly loves me, that he'd do anything for me. He said it may of taken 13 years but he's realised his mistakes and now he's trying to rectify them. It's whether I can let him in again, trust again, gain respect for him again. I know I love him but don't think I am in love with him.

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Weenurse · 22/11/2019 07:07

Stick to your guns and don’t give mixed messages.
Let him know you love him and always will as DC dad, but you are no longer in love with him and it is not fair to him. He needs to be free to find someone who loves and adores him.
Good luck 💐

WhatTheActualFrick · 22/11/2019 07:52

If you were ever to fall back in love with him, he would change again, and the abuse would kick back in. The reason he is being so great is precisely because you're not in love with him, so he can't get away with bad behaviour. The minute you feel you need him (e.g. you fall back in love; or if you were to get I'll or something), his behaviour will change. Please get out now, and live your life as you were before. The future of this relationship is not good. Good luck OP.

Melissa58 · 23/11/2019 09:28

One of the final straws for me was October last year, when I started to get excited and talk about our wedding as we were going to be booking it 3 months later (January this year) then suddenly as soon as I mention it he says he needs time out from the subject and at least a weeks break from talking about it and says he doesn't want to book it in January. This is after 13 years of me waiting and wanting to marry this man, after he'd already proposed once and back out so this was the second time. And he wonders why I struggle to just accept that he's still not ready. I felt hurt and strug along yet again. But to this day he said I need to take some responsibility for that, that it's partly my fault for talking about our wedding planning when he didn't want to.
Come on, he broke my heart all over again, how can I sit back and obey and just don't mention it as he says?!

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ASHMEISTER24 · 23/11/2019 09:55

13 years. Love cant just go away like that when someone is willing to change. My advice is stop putting pressure on yourself over thinking things and make it work. No relationship is the same as when you first meet. You have kids together and this bloke was your everything at one point. Make it work dont give up.

Melissa58 · 23/11/2019 10:19

The love didn't just go away, it faded over time due to him mistreating me, talking down to me for years, not valuing my opinion, taking charge of things.
My dilemma is that I'm not sure I'll ever love him as much as I once did. And what if I never fall back in love with him? It's not like I haven't already tried getting close again. I'm so torn!

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ASHMEISTER24 · 23/11/2019 10:48

It's because life is a rat race and unfortunately life gets a hold of you and impacts relationships etc... people get complacent just as you do with anything that becomes your daily routine. If he can change then I dont understand how that love cant come back. He was your one. If you meet someone else tomorrow and you get them butterflies you once had. Picture it in 13 years time after you've both seen the worst of each other and seen each other every day. Do you think them butterflies will still be there ?

Melissa58 · 23/11/2019 11:11

No I doubt they would after 13 years. And I agree with what you're saying. I just hope the love can return, as my worry is wasting more time and potentially stringing him along if I try but can't fall back in love. As he has mentally scarred me in alot of ways over the years which has changed my opinion on him, alot of respect and trust has gone.

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Thingsdogetbetter · 23/11/2019 11:27

Finally realised he's a twat....Finally.......after 13 years......13.......ffs. Well whippee doo for him. So thode times over those 13 years you cried, you told him he was hurting you, of scared dc, etc etc weren't enough for him to realise? With such an inability to realise his behaviour was unacceptable for 13 years, how long do you think it would take him to unlearn his negative behaviour?? A couple of months? A few years?? The rest of your life?

If it took 13 years to accept he's a twat (which I doubt he has), his abusive behaviour, selfishness and misogyny are ingrained. They are part of him. It would take years of self awareness and PROFESSIONAL help for him to change from abusive twat to decent human being. Has he signed up for counselling, for anger management?? Made any concrete steps to enable this remarkable change? Or is it just guilt tripping promises???

Thingsdogetbetter · 23/11/2019 11:33

@ASHMEISTER24 seeing someone at their worse usually involves a bad day at work, some stress, the sorrow of a family bereavement or a doze of gastric flu. NOT being sworn at and abused!! No one expects 'butterflies' to last forever, but DO expect to be treated with love and respect by their partner FOREVER! Ffs!

Thingsdogetbetter · 23/11/2019 11:33

Dose! Not doze!

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