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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 17:21

I'm very surprised! I called 101 and expected to be told to log it online but they were fab. Two officers came straight out.

I said I know it's not crime of the century and the Bobby interjected and said but it IS a crime, we'll go and have words.

Happy days

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 17:22

Thank you diary :)

I hope so too. I've been running on no sleep at all, I don't even understand how it is possible. Adrenaline I guess.

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 25/11/2019 17:45

It sounds like he's been doing some major shit-stirring and lying to you both. Probably loving that he's orchestrated two women fighting over him.

Let's hope the police visit is enough to shut her up at least.

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 17:59

Yes definitely, I've no doubt he's lied out his arse to her too. I can't find it in me to see her as a victim though, after all this is a woman who believes I have cancer and still indulges the affair and then harasses me to boot.

I'm always in the camp of blaming the wayward spouse or partner, but I despite them both in equal measure for different reasons.

Isn't it unnerving how quickly your life can turn upside down. I had no idea he had been having an affair for six months he hid it so well. I only became suspicious when he started talking of wanting to leave me and disappearing for extended periods.

If what she said was true, he managed to hide it from me totally for a whole other 4 months and my mind is blown by that.

Before 8ish weeks ago, he never seemed to have his time unaccounted for.

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 18:01

Despise not dispute

crispysausagerolls · 25/11/2019 18:04

Well done! Excellent update re the police! That should scare her silly

simplekindoflife · 25/11/2019 18:10

So pleased about the police response to this! It is malicious and needs nipping in the bud, good for you!

I think you are handling it so well, don't second-guess yourself you're doing great. And not kicking off when she knocked on your door was absolutely the right thing. You came across as the dignified person, not her. She probably wanted a reaction in front of that car load of people and you didn't give it to her. She's probably kicking herself which is why she sending you all these messages now.

Sending lots of love and support Thanks I know you feel so alone right now but there are a whole load of mumsnetters who have your back!

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 18:45

I can't block her again now for another 48 hours but she'd be a fool to message me again after the police pay her a visit.

Keep an eye on her FB profile. I had an issue with a neighbour and had to contact the police. Within minutes of the police leaving the neighbours house to tell them to leave me alone, neighbour had posted lots of memes and posts mocking me. She sounds batshit enough to do the same. Take screenshots.

Good response from the police.

I can’t believe she was chasing after a man she thinks is a pervert who fancies her daughter Hmm she needs to go and find some self respect!

ChippyPickledEggs · 25/11/2019 18:59

That bastard has told her you've got cancer. He's done it to justify his flaky behaviour towards her, I bet you. He's pretending to be so racked with guilt over cheating on you when you have cancer, he's got no choice other than to walk around the park for hours on end.

My god, I've read some things on here, but this is absolutely dreadful.

whereishappyat · 25/11/2019 19:10

Wow... I've just spent agesss reading through the whole post, what a mess! Wishing you all the best for you and kids, I've been through the physical heartache and it's so tough but your kiddies need you so eat and drink when you can and when your not doing that just rest! You will get there!

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 19:12

I'm going to stay off Facebook for a few days until I can block her again, I don't want to see her mug popping up anywhere else.

Yes I also can't believe she was chasing after a man she believes is a pervert that fancies her teenage daughter, it only becomes a problem once he dumps her clearly.

Yep chippy I think you've hit the nail on the head. He has used the cancer scare to his advantage, to justify being flaky with her. Which he was.

Did I mention the "reason" she sent me a friend request and threatened to tell me was because he "didn't reply to her text all day"

That's what he said.

So he's a dirty slimeball and she's nuts.

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 19:14

They’re pathetic the pair of them. Acting like immature teenagers who’ve no regard for anyone’s feelings. Grow up!!

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 19:14

Thank you whereishappyat and the rest of you for the continued solidarity. I couldn't have gotten through this week without having mumsnet to vent on, truly.

I expect I'll look back on this in the coming months/years and be proud of where I have gotten to. I hope so anyway.

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 19:18

I feel ever so slightly more relaxed now that I know she's not likely to contact me again. I made a nice stew and ate a reasonable portion of it which I couldn't have done over the past days. If I can just get a good night's rest I think I may be on the mend shock-wise Smile

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 19:25

I expect I'll look back on this in the coming months/years and be proud of where I have gotten to.

You should already be proud. You’ve handled this amazingly. I know it does feel like if but you’re a really strong person.

Pastryapronsucks · 25/11/2019 19:27

Wow, your kids may have a dick for a father, but boy do they have a strong Mother👊. You are doing so well. Good news that you have managed some food, fingers crossed you can get some sleep too🤞

Dominoz · 25/11/2019 19:44

Just RTFT. Wow! You are doing so well. He is awful! I remembering reading your previous post too. I found it really disturbing. You've been through so much but what is so clear is that you are well shot of him. He is despicable.

TooTrusting · 25/11/2019 19:57

Not that it makes any difference but I wouldn't trust her word about it going on for 6 months. 1, 2 , or 6 it's the same thing. But just don't beat yourself up wondering about it.

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 20:00

If her 6 months is true that means he began the affair when I was 2 weeks out of hospital. My DD is almost 7 months and I was in HDU for just under a fortnight because of the sepsis and hemmorhage.

I'm not too sure what I do believe with that bit, because he took a fortnight paternity to begin with then had another week or so off after we got home. It seems a bit odd for him to have walked back into work and started shagging her straight away.

He said it's not 6 months and that he didn't even know her well enough to talk to until around July.

Still, minor details isn't it.

TooTrusting · 25/11/2019 20:07

You have my admiration for not reading her messages. She's obviously got an agenda of her own and other than knowing there was an affair, you are right that it's just details. And you don't need to know a load which may be false.

Pantalaimon88 · 25/11/2019 20:09

It sounds as though your husband has serious issues with sex. You’re in hospital after a traumatic birth, with birth injuries and sepsis and he goes straight out to shag somebody else as it was obvious you’d be out of action for a while. But then when you’re home he pesters and harasses you for sex when you’re still incredibly ill and injured, showing no compassion whatsoever. All he thought about what his dick. The fact that you say this woman is so unattractive clearly indicates his standards are through the floor and all he wants is a willing vagina, all else is irrelevant.

He is sick and warped. Clearly he just cares about his dick above all else. He’s vile and you’re 100% better off without him.

BuildBuildings · 25/11/2019 20:09

This is just awful op. I've read your full thread. I don't know how much I can add. I just wanted to let you know you're doing great. And to send you hugs Flowers

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 20:10

It seems a bit odd for him to have walked back into work and started shagging her straight away.

It makes total sense to me tbh. Sorry OP, I know that’s an unpleasant thought but I’ve read enough on MN and know some women in real life who been through this and it seems quite common for men to start cheating when their wives have just had babies. The baby takes over all the wife’s attention and of course isn’t having sex with her husband straight away, plus the fact your baby was in HDU will be an added stress factor meaning he wasn’t getting the sex and attention he wanted. You said he was harassing you for sex when you were still recovering from the birth. It all adds up to confirm her story that it’s been going on since just after your baby was born- especially if that’s the time he went back to work after paternity leave and she is his work colleague. Not that it matters how long it went on. But I’d believe her on this one. I wouldn’t believe him on anything.

Pantalaimon88 · 25/11/2019 20:11

He’s changed his story so many times I wouldn’t believe a word he said.

WizardOfAus · 25/11/2019 20:14

It doesn’t matter really what the time frame of the affair is. He’s a piece of shit and she’s bonkers. You, on the other hand are bloody incredible. How you’ve kept your cool today, I don’t know. Has he been texting you today @Lumpybumps1 ?