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Thinking about leaving my wife

111 replies

DaveJones1 · 02/11/2019 20:09

Hi guys,
I need an outside opinion on my situation, my wife and I have a 4-year-old girl and 1-year old boy and I’m getting more and more tempted to jump ship!
Our first child hit us like a tsunami, we thought we were ready but colic and undiagnosed lactose intolerance showed us otherwise. The first year of our daughter’s life felt like hell, I’m sure many know the feeling, almost zero sleep, constant crying and screaming, wife had PND quite severe and I had some extreme guilt having to go to work in the morning. Anyway, we survived (barely) and a few years later my son joined the tribe.
In a desperate attempt to prevent another round of PND we fed the second on a bottle, and I did every single night shift for the first 7 months of his life (slept on the sofa downstairs so he wouldn’t wake my other half). Then after a glorious 3-4 hours sleep head to work for the day.

Anyway fast forward to today, I now do all the early mornings (wake up around 5-6am with the kids) and wife wakes up at 9am so I can go work (I now work from home), when I finish I help with cleaning up while wife feeds the children, I bath them (wife wont) and she puts them to bed. Then I cook her dinner, wash the dishes, put a load of laundry in, watch 20 minutes of TV and go to bed.

I’m beginning to wonder what I’m doing here, I get less sleep, less free time (wife gets to stay up late and watch TV, phone etc every night), I do all my own laundry/ironing, make all the meals for us, take out the rubbish, clean the kitchen, the usual DIY stuff, manage the bills and do the shopping. I get zero say in how the little ones are raised or disciplined, and wife won’t allow anyone (not even my mother) to babysit so we can have a night off.
I’m certainly not some man boy craving a single life, I work very hard to provide a good life for us and was in complete support for her to quit her job to be a full-time mum, I take pride in that, but this feels like I’m being taken for a mug. I feel like I get nothing from her, I would love it if she ever bothered to so much as make me a cuppa, even our sex life is INSANELY infrequent and boring (she admits to this and refuses to do anything about it, apparently I’m lucky to even have one?). We have spent 100+ hours talking about it, so many arguments and compromises from me but I’m running out of patience and energy.

Am I a monster for thinking about leaving? I feel that she’s a decent mum but turned into a terrible partner. She refuses counselling or outside help and I can’t help but start to wonder what it would be like to live alone and split the childcare. I want my kids to have a great life, and to be there for them as much as possible, but I don’t know if I can cope in this house anymore and never have any time off or intimacy.

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Majorcollywobble · 02/11/2019 20:57

You are definitely not a monster for thinking of leaving . It sounds like between the two children you are going through hell .
Lack of the comfort of a good sex life makes everything harder to deal with .
Having said all that have you got what it takes to keep on keeping on - keeping the faith - gritting your teeth and just getting on with it ? If you can do that you’ll save your marriage and avoid a lot of heartache for the children. If your wife isn’t pulling her weight - PND or not - she needs to start pulling her weight - you and the children need her to be strong . The wedding vows are are a two way contract . Remind her of them .

OhDeari · 02/11/2019 20:59

@MadnessInMethod The paranoia about anyone else looking after her children was for me anyway how I felt when I was clinically depressed. I was paranoid that everyone was a paedophile. I had a traumatic birth, almost lost my dd and felt like the grim reaper was going to come and take her at some point, as medical intervention had interfered in God's plan. Fucked up I know. I'm Catholic, so we get extra fucked up brownie points.

PersonaNonGarter · 02/11/2019 20:59

She sounds very unwell. However, this life will make you unwell if you stay.

IsItChristmas · 02/11/2019 20:59

When our children were those ages it was pure survival. I don't remember much of it, it was all a blur. I started to get back in shape physically and mentally when youngest turned three. I'm not sure I'd be able to cope with any demands beyond what was absolutely essential at that time. Sex wasn't even a remote priority. We're fine now (kids 15 and 12) and I am grateful that my hubby stuck it out.

misspiggy19 · 02/11/2019 21:00

**The thing that strikes me from your post is that you've spent hours talking about it, she refuses counselling, she refuses outside help, she refuses to even let your mum babysit so you get a night off.

So there you go, nothing will change unless you change it. She's telling you loud and clear - either shut up or fuck off.**

^This. She doesn’t want to change. Leave her and take the children with you.

DaveJones1 · 02/11/2019 21:01

Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm grateful even for the negative ones.
She's been on PND medication for a 6+ months now (I had forced her to see a GP for the kid's sake) and her mood seems fine, she's currently out meeting friends for a drink so I would assume the depression isn't causing it? Problem is I don't have a benchmark, so I don't know if this is normal family life and I need to 'man up' or if she is just lazy. She always tells me it's normal and I need to man up, but my gut says otherwise.
I'm terrified of leaving and destroying my family, I just miss being happy, can't remember the last time I actually felt happy.

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OhDeari · 02/11/2019 21:01

I also blame the film Final Destination for that. Should be banned.

OhDeari · 02/11/2019 21:02

Ok, well, if her PND is being treated, then yes, I would leave.

OhDeari · 02/11/2019 21:04

She'll have to 'woman up' when you leave though.

Expect a very bitter lady.

PsychosonicCindy · 02/11/2019 21:04

@OhDeari
Bless you got nothing to say to help really but sending you some love 🌹 xxx

Autumnfields · 02/11/2019 21:05

It doesn’t sound like she’s being feckless actually.

She feeds them and puts them to bed every evening. You cook dinner and do baths. That sounds a fair share. I’d drop the baths every night. Twice a week is fine with small ones. Get online shopping. And get wife to make half the meals or just make your own sometimes.

Although all those night feeds are a bit mental on your own while working. That’s very stressful.

What strikes me is to the total lack of emotion and bonding. Do you really want to leave your wife, do you love her? Do you want to leave your kids? Where is your fun and identity as a family?

Candle1000 · 02/11/2019 21:06

This is not an equal partnership, I’d be fed up too. I’d have one more talk , all cards on the table and if nothing changes, I’d leave, you can’t say that you haven’t tried.

BooseysMom · 02/11/2019 21:08

@SeaSidePebbles.. yes i agree. I remember how stressed i was being a SAHM to just one kid who refused to sleep at night and as soon as DH got in from work it was all i could do to stop myself grabbing him and locking him in!! Also i didn't want any intimacy as i was totally touched out from ebf. It was bloody hard. We never had another

OhDeari · 02/11/2019 21:08

You genuinely do sound like you gave it your all and she's taking the piss. Of course we have one side of the story, but, from your side, it sounds like leaving would be best.

UnicornsExist · 02/11/2019 21:09

I think I'd be inclined to give her an ultimatum. She either commits to counselling to rebuild your marriage or you will be moving out. Chances are it is depression related but you can't allow her depression to drag you down too.

IsItChristmas · 02/11/2019 21:09

OhDeari I felt the same about everyone being potentially a peadophile, rather irrationally but very, very strongly. I was sexually abused as a child so I know that my thought patterns are a bit off a result. I was therefore often checking my suspicions with my husband and tried to correct my thinking as much as possible. It's a much more difficult situation if that correction / conversation isn't happening.

SoupDragon · 02/11/2019 21:12

She feeds them and puts them to bed every evening. You cook dinner and do baths. That sounds a fair share

Except that isn't all he is doing is it?

OhDeari · 02/11/2019 21:12

@IsItChristmas I was a single mum, so no rational convos going on in my head apart from the voices lol.

Windygate · 02/11/2019 21:15

What are your plans for the DC?

Pessismistic · 02/11/2019 21:20

She’s out having fun you need to do the same a night off will make a big difference Something to look forward to also you can also be brave and tell her you mum is babysitting so you can be a couple for a night if she doesn’t like it you know she will always wear the trousers and nothing will change but in the meantime try leaving some of the chores for her to do.

DaveJones1 · 02/11/2019 21:20

@Windygate I don't have any yet, but I imagine it would be a typical weekend and whenever I'm allowed during the week scenario. We had spoken about this a while back and I know she'd fight me tooth and nail to keep them and I be the weekender.

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IsItChristmas · 02/11/2019 21:20

@OhDeari lol Smile Flowers

NinjaMam · 02/11/2019 21:24

two unhappy tired parents don't make happy healthy children,

be proactive, talk about it, get OH help if she needs it. you can't help her if she refuses to help herself.

hope things work out. certainty wish I had a husband like you!

BarrenFieldofFucks · 02/11/2019 21:25

How does she sound like a bitch? Evening chores sound equally split, and she has the kids in the day. You should be splitting lie ins at the weekend however.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 02/11/2019 21:29

You can be depressed and still socialise etc. Her medication may not be kicking the pnd, it can take a while and changing of drugs/dosage etc before you get it right.

Presumably you got on ok before kids? Because you are in the thick of it right now. Give it time.

Definitely suggest splitting night shifts more.