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Some friendly words - part 2. It's over.

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ASmallBoxofChocolateBunnies · 30/10/2019 22:42

First of all I wanted to apologise to the lovely people who were so supportive on my original thread. I had it deleted because I had a weird 'outing' experience, but it doesn't matter now because this evening I had the phone call telling me it was definitely over.

I thought we had been making some progress trying to work things out, but no, it's done.

22 years destroyed in the space of a few months.

In his words, something just switched off. Which is nice.

I don't believe there is an OW, but I suspect there may well be shortly.

Moving away for a job, living in the village he grew up in which he had never wanted to leave originally, and where he now feels more at home than he has done in years. And yes, he did say that, although he did apologise when I pointed out that didn't make me feel super wonderful.

Too much time alone, too much time to dwell and gnaw at all the little things that weren't quite right, all the little niggles, and BOOM suddenly he's able to completely shut, bolt and nail the door up behind him,

And I am just broken. I know I am strong, I know I can get through this, but blimey, it is just, pain.

It seems such a dreadful waste. Ironically, if he hadn't got this job earlier in the year, we may well have been in Las Vegas now, celebrating 20 years of marriage, which is somewhere I'd always wanted to go, and we were going to splurge, irregardless of our not terribly healthy finances.

I just did not see this coming. I still believe our niggles, issues etc were eminently fixable. But fixing them needed someone who was present. And he evidently hasn't been for the past few months.

It seems to have happened very quickly in his head. There was a catalyst of moving within the village 2 months ago at which point it's like a light went out.

So we never had a chance really, he never said how he was feeling because there doesn't seem to have been a period of doubt, just love one day, nothing the next.

Have to work out how to tell the children (well, young adults).

As is so often the case, the one person I would turn to, talk to, the one person I could rely on to have my back, to make me feel better just by being there...is the very person who has broken me.

Of course I still love him. He's been my love, my person, my best friend for all this time, and to lose all of those is horrifying.

We 'got' each other so much, on so many levels just not having that is more than I feel I can bear. I feel like I'm bursting out of my skin.

When he first told me how he felt, and then when we were talking so I wasn't sure, but hoped there was a chance, I thought that limbo was bad, and actually knowing might feel better. It doesn't.

If anyone is there, please could you spare a moment.

I am very lucky, I have some wonderful friends, but at the moment I just can't go to bed and I feel, just, horrible.

Thank you

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Bigpooh13 · 13/01/2020 13:11

They seem to come up with same excuses. Is there a club they go to were they are taught to change overnight into completely different person. And a memory wipe.

thegrassisgreenernow · 13/01/2020 14:21

Yes, it's pretty depressing isn't it?

Finished 'Runaway Husbands' last night, had left the last chapter for a bit as I'd presumed it was going to tell me whether or not they revert back to their previous empathetic selves once the magnitude of what they've done eventually hits home. I hadn't felt ready to know in case she said they didn't, as dealing with this cold-hearted new person is so tough. But it didn't say!

Does anyone have experience or knowledge of this?

@ASmallBoxofChocolateBunnies well done for having a productive chat. I haven't spoken either by phone or in person with DH for 5 weeks, just had cold texts/emails/unreasonable behaviour. I do feel better for having broken contact but fear that the longer I leave it the more of a big destructive deal it will be when we finally do talk.

But I don't have to rush into it, do I? I'm at home and comfortable with the DCs, and he's not, so I suppose the impetus to do anything is probably his. And I can say no I guess if I'm not ready?

Good luck with your interview @SuperbMonkey.

Bigpooh13 · 13/01/2020 19:43

He wanted D on my unreasonable behaviour but I wont accept it. Hes rushing the divorce and i have no choice they can start it when they want. But I'm not gonna rush. Hes now accepted his unreasonable behaviour. We are doing financial disclosure. I wanted the 2 year separation and he agreed to that but I think the ow got involved. Take your time this is for the rest of our life . They have done this not us.

SuperbMonkey · 13/01/2020 19:45

@Bigpooh13, their mothers brought them up to think they are gods. It’s a way of ensuring that no other woman can ever take them away fully. Or perhaps I’m a cynic 😀

@thegrassisgreenernow, I fear that they stay as they are now. Chumplady would say that this is because how they are now is their real personality. What we saw was an illusion. That’s what I choose to believe because it will be less painful that way.

Thanks for the good wishes for the interview. I will hear at the end of this week whether I have progressed to the next round. Fingers crossed.

Have a good evening everyone. Flowers

SuperbMonkey · 13/01/2020 19:46

@Bigpooh13, well done. It sounds like you’ve done some very clever negotiating. Warrior-woman.

SoTiredTonight · 13/01/2020 19:51

@SuperbMonkey Your point about the mothers is something I’ve been pondering. I think you are right. Certainly in my case. Well, in DH’s that is... Just can’t compete, and certainly can’t win. Sad but true. Feeling utterly deflated with it all.
Anyway, hope your interview went well for you. And yes, fingers crossed! Grin

@Bigpooh13 That’s just shit. Although glad to hear he’s admitting his part. Even if that’s just for the record. Because he probably still believes it’s all your fault. Fuck him. Flowers

I’m angry tonight. No word from DH in over 48 hours. So pissed off.

SuperbMonkey · 13/01/2020 20:01

@SoTiredTonight, thanks for the good wishes. My MIL is a troublemaker and as jealous as anything. She hated the ex so that should be fun ...

The thing about being deflated is that you can be reinflated tomorrow. Your flat but not broken!

SoTiredTonight · 13/01/2020 20:49

@Superb, I’ve got on well with her for the most part, but there have always been instances where it was insinuated that I’m not good enough. And he or his siblings just cannot do wrong. On first sight it seems lovely, but it’s actually very exasperating.
No, I’m definitely not broken, but thank you for reminding me, I really need some encouragement today! Love to you and all the other ladies! x

Bigpooh13 · 13/01/2020 21:06

My ML adores him . He can do no wrong. But she did say that doesnt condones what he does. I saw her nearly every day. Then I see her once after the split she cries on me. Saw her once more. Not even a xmas card.

Bigpooh13 · 13/01/2020 21:14

I find it really hard to understand that it was an illusion for 19 years. But he is definitely this person now. He admits it . Says he is cold n heartless . I think the OW is very lucky to have him like that.

SuperbMonkey · 13/01/2020 22:26

@SoTiredTonight, how funny. I used to think that my MIL’s relationship with her sons was lovely. I came to realise quite quickly how narcissistic and self-absorbed she was. My H would never stand up to her. She always got her own way. I don’t miss her. Lots of encouragement coming your way.

Bigpooh13, you wouldn’t have wanted the cold, unfriendly card I got from the PIL (I should say MIL). I can see where her son gets it from. You wouldn’t want to waste any more time on a cold and heartless person. Spend the time you gave to him on yourself. You sound as if you are doing much better now.

xx

Stillfunny · 13/01/2020 23:18

I asked my DH about the fact that he could do the things he did.
He reckons it had nothing to do with me , his life of deception then was completely seperate.He said he just didn't think about his " real " life. I appreciated his honesty . But I will never understand how this is possible. And this comes from the guy who desperately wants to stay together. Does he realise that now I would never ever trust or believe him again.
Second counselling today.Went well and actually discussed me and not just my shitty marriage situation. Which was nice as sometimes I get so bored with discussing it all the time. Nobody gets how I feel. Except on here. ThanksFlowers

Stillfunny · 13/01/2020 23:19

And I loathed my MIL. But I don't think DH liked much either.

SuperbMonkey · 14/01/2020 07:53

@Stillfunny. Your counselling session sounds positive. It is good to focus on yourself for a bit. The first step to real recovery perhaps.

Have a good day everyone. Hope it’s better than yesterday.

Bigpooh13 · 14/01/2020 08:28

Thanks to all. Just started a course on depression. Didnt realise I was . I'm so pissed of about it as well. I thought I was heartbroken still in shock etc. But no I'm depressed. Saw a councellor yesterday says I'm going through the stages and still grieving for my mum then this happened as well. And still expecting to much. But I'm pushing myself to be positive.

SuperbMonkey · 14/01/2020 12:11

@Bigpooh13, you are making amazing steps forward. You are sorting yourself out. That’s so positive, even though you might like the fact that you are depressed. Something can be done to help you now. X

SuperbMonkey · 14/01/2020 12:53

Not like the idea that you are depressed. I can’t type today!

Bigpooh13 · 14/01/2020 13:27

@superbmonkey are you alright. I dont like the idea I'm depressed either. Just thought it was part of the process of being dumped and cheated on and lied to and betrayed and the rest of it. Saw his car at Ds today she lives near us. He didnt call in to see me so I suppose that's progress and a gud thing. But I'm abit mixed feelings about it.

SuperbMonkey · 14/01/2020 17:20

@Bigpooh13 I’m fine, thank you for asking. You do sound much more positive. I’m going to my first yoga class tonight and looking forward to that. I hope it’s going to do me some good.

SoTiredTonight · 14/01/2020 20:44

Evening all. Sorry haven’t been on, had counselling this morning and then got on with lots of stuff I had neglected. Felt quite good. DH is home but still not speaking. Well, he asked if I wanted to say something but I reminded him that’s her ignored me for 3 days...

@Bigpooh13, so sorry to hear you’ve been diagnosed (?) but it really is just another label for what has been going on anyway. If it helps to look at it from a slightly different angle? And the ADs will help, although it might take a little while. What are you on?

@SuperbMonkey Hope you enjoyed the yoga? xx

SuperbMonkey · 14/01/2020 20:52

@SoTiredTonight. Good to hear from you. It sounds as if counselling has inspired you to make great progress with your tasks. It does feel good to get stuff done.

Yoga felt nourishing but seems to have set off a bit of emotion. I had a cry when I got home. Getting a cold as well, which I could do without. And the weather ... Horrendous! I’m going to eat then have an earlyish night. xx

SuperbMonkey · 15/01/2020 06:59

Morning everyone. Hope you all have a positive day. Just bumping the thread up.

Bigpooh13 · 15/01/2020 08:34

Yes to that. Abit concerned we seem to have lost some people of here . Want to know if they are ok.

caketimeisover · 15/01/2020 12:37

I'm still here! Been feeling a bit blue the last couple of days. Like I trust that he sucks, but it's just really sad. He never said sorry, acknowledged how horribly he's behaved, shown any remorse for what he's done or any empathy for me (left me at home with 2 kids and a newborn to put to bed so he could get his end away with his girlfriend. Treated me like I was nothing. Watched me killing myself to make him happy. Then walked out anyway.) And that just hurts.

Have next mediation session on Friday though, hoping we can start resolving finances and make concrete plans about his access to the kids. Hope I don't spend the whole thing crying like last time. Need to be strong and stick to what I think is right, not be made to feel guilty and agree to what he wants. And remember my motto - cake time is over dickhead!!

Got our decree nisi yesterday so of things go through quickly will be divorced by March - barely 5 months after he left. Not sure how that makes me feel.

Bigpooh13 · 15/01/2020 16:35

Oh crap @caketimeisover.
That is so sad and fast. I'm so sorry. Please dont rush financial and give in. I cry alot of the time doesnt bother me anymore has to come out. What a bastard.