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Was this inappropriate?

82 replies

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 11:14

I was planning on attending a sport/hobby event - both to see the event and to meet up with a male friend who I know through the sport.

By the time he confirmed he and his brother (who I also know through the sport, though not as well as him) were attending, all the limited accommodation in the area was booked out. My friend immediately offered for me to share their tent (they sometimes camp at these events). I want particularly keen ( don t like camping, not a big tent, too stinky young men etc); my main priority not being "propriety" or appearances. So I asked my sister if she still had a tent and planned to take that and camp in a separate tent; until circumstances changed for my friend and they decided not to attend after all.

(For background/relevant info - I'm a mid 30s female, they are in early 20s; know them and became friends/acquaintances through sport ( older brother was my instructor). If they are in my area, we meet and vice versa. Exchange the odd message in a in a while. Older brother is in a steady relationship. Younger not at that time.)

My dp of several months found this (when I related the events/decisions) inappropriate - both the prospect of me sharing their tent at all and how it would apparently look to other people who know him and myself (I also met him through the sport in a roundabout way, but it's his children who do it, not him) including his sons and others (mostly male sport) attending.

I explained that I never really considered sharing the tent, though not for the above reasons, and quickly moved onto trying to get a tent of my own but he focused on that and seens to think I'm very strange not to see it as inappropriate.

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DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 16:29

These are regional & national dinghy racing events.

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Lyingonthesofainthedark · 19/10/2019 16:44

I think inappropriate.

Butterisbest · 19/10/2019 17:06

Is this what happened?
Your male friend offered you the chance to share his tent with him and his younger brother, this was at a shared hobby event.
You declined the offer.
You told a male friend that he couldn't stay with you because your spare room is full of stuff.
Your partner is giving you a hard time even though the hobby tent sharing didn't happen.
Your partner is also giving you a hard time for telling your non hobby sharing male friend the truth about your spare room, you should have said it was inappropriate!!
He's giving you a hard time about things that haven't even happened.
IMO your partner is a controlling idiot.
If I were you I'd be telling him to fuck off and find another doormat to walk all over.

Lllot5 · 19/10/2019 17:21

Come on op you’re not that naive. Not many people would be happy with their partner sharing a tent with two people of the opposite sex.
I wouldn’t be and I didn’t much care what my DH got up to in the end.

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 17:23

Is this what happened?
Your male friend offered you the chance to share his tent with him and his younger brother, this was at a shared hobby event.
You declined the offer.

Yes. But the reason I told dp that I didnt like the idea i.e. comfort, rather than inappropriate-ness; which apparently is wrong. I should have thought about how it would look for example.

You told a male friend that he couldn't stay with you because your spare room is full of stuff.

It was an ex bf (from.about 10 yrs ago) but yes. And apparently I should have refused due to inappropriate-ness - and told him so - instead of not having a room set up.

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rvby · 19/10/2019 17:25

My dp shares accoms with women every so often. Friends of many years, some of whom are exes. It really isnt a big deal. But the obsession with propriety, modesty, etc means many folk are quite silly about this. Its pathetic really.

With you bf (hes not a dp if you've been dating for months btw), hes literally being the thought police here. Hes scandalized that you THOUGHT certain things. I mean. Ffs.

Can you run? I would run.

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 17:28

Not many people would be happy with their partner sharing a tent with two people of the opposite sex.

Why, does two make it worse?

Do tents have some magical effect where friends shag if they stay in them together.

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rvby · 19/10/2019 17:30

Not many people would be happy with their partner sharing a tent with two people of the opposite sex.

People who are really insecure, childish, and or religious/obsessed with the appearance of modesty and chastity would have a problem. Its camping. Not a swingers convention. Jesus

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 17:31

I've shared a tent with a female friend and her bf (well he became her bf, at that point she'd just pulled him) at a festival. We managed not to shag .. any of us, in any combination.

And that was a festival, surrounded by drunkenness and revelry. Not a sailing event surrounded by families etc.

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Lllot5 · 19/10/2019 17:33

Two people doesn’t make it worse you said that’s how many are going to be there.
You asked the question I wouldn’t like it one two or nine come to that.

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 19:32

Some serious polarisation here.

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itsmecathycomehome · 19/10/2019 19:35

"Do tents have some magical effect where friends shag if they stay in them together."

Well I wouldn't like it whether it was a tent, a hotel room, a caravan, a motorhome, the back seat of a car, a canalboat or anything else really. I think not sleeping in the same space as someone of the opposite sex when you're in a relationship is just showing decency and respect, and actually isn't that hard to do either.

upaladderagain · 19/10/2019 19:54

Surely the problem that posters should be addressing is the boyfriend's attitude.
He wants her to acknowledge that it is inappropriate for her to have friendships with other men. She should view relationships with members of the opposite sex as completely unacceptable, however innocent and long-standing those relationships may be.
OP, ditch him before it gets nasty.

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 20:05

I think not sleeping in the same space as someone of the opposite sex when you're in a relationship is just showing decency and respect

What is it that is disrespectful and indecent about sleeping in the same space as someone of the opposite sex if you're in a relationship?

(Is there not an assumption behind every objection that sexual contact could happen? And why does that assumption happen if you trust your partner?)

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itsmecathycomehome · 19/10/2019 20:09

"He wants her to acknowledge that it is inappropriate for her to have friendships with other men."

Is that true op? I can't see anything about him wanting her to stop friendships. OP has explicitly said that he's never shown any sign of wanting her to give up her (male dominated) hobby.

I don't mind my DP having female friends at all. But somehow sleeping next to them feels disrespectful and I don't mind admitting that I wouldn't like it.

itsmecathycomehome · 19/10/2019 20:16

"What is it that is disrespectful and indecent about sleeping in the same space as someone of the opposite sex if you're in a relationship?"

I think it's something to do with the intimacy that sleeping next to each other creates. Seeing each other asleep and in night clothes maybe.

Also, no matter how much you trust your partner, other people don't. They see your partner sleeping with someone that's not you, and they think you're a mug for being ok with it, and that s/he might potentially be shagging someone else.

Again, you trust your partner but maybe not the friend they're planning on sleeping with. It's not nice to imagine someone coming on to your partner, even if s/he does reject them.

It might be irrational, I don't know, it is certainly clear that you disagree with this viewpoint, just trying to honestly explain why I wouldn't like it, why nobody I know wouldn't like it, and why your dp might not like it. There's always the option of separating surely, then you can both find someone more in tune with your own views and neither of you need feel compromised.

SevenStones · 19/10/2019 20:20

I don't see that you have done (or thought!) anything amiss, OP.

I'd be rather dubious about my boyfriend in this situation. This is a big thing to not be on the same page about. I wouldn't want to go along with him in the future and curtail a more open minded approach to my platonic relationships with the opposite sex.

itsmecathycomehome · 19/10/2019 20:26

Maybe I've been on mn too long. With fairly frequent regularity there are posts from women who are horrified that circumstances conspired to allow them to have sex with someone other than their partner. Most are desperate to save their primary relationship and at pains to explain that it wasn't planned or expected, that they won't do it again, that their partner mustn't find out.

Sometimes they are advised to come clean and sometimes posters ask what that would achieve and suggest keeping quiet.

But I guess it does show that people are capable of making mistakes that they later regret, and I guess it is that sort of situation that some people might fear if their partner wanted to share a tent with a friend of the opposite sex.

NameChangeNugget · 19/10/2019 20:27

They’re are some incredibly uptight people about Hmm

Your DP sounds like a needy prick. His lack of trust is a red flag

Interestedwoman · 19/10/2019 20:28

It annoys me that posters are disapproving of you- it's 2 guys, brothers and friends of yours, not like you were just going to share with one.

'I used to hang around with a gay fella and visited him on my own in my last relationship (again no bed sharing) and my dp commented "that wouldn't be happening (in a relationship) with me".

That's very controlling, completely unjustifiable. Would almost make one inclined to get back in touch with him and stay over :)

GirlOnIt · 19/10/2019 20:31

I wouldn't like the 'what other people would think' kind of comments from him @DarlingBuds19. My ex said similar and it was the start of controlling behaviour. That language of trying to make you think you should feel differently about something would be a red flag to me.
I'd have been ok with him saying he'd feel uncomfortable with it and that he's glad it didn't happen. But him saying it's strange that don't find it inappropriate isn't ok, you don't and your feelings are valid.

DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 20:35

Is that true op? I can't see anything about him wanting her to stop friendships. OP has explicitly said that he's never shown any sign of wanting her to give up her (male dominated) hobby.

He has not said anything suggesting I give up the hobby - which I have mostly given up as a participant anyway (not due to him) .... however he does seem uncomfortable about the two opposite sex friendships I have.

This young guy - I described him to him and included that he is very gentlemanly, considerate, kind etc - and that is unaffected by other priorities eg when I met up with him while visiting Edinburgh and he, his gf and I walked up arthur's seat on a whim (so I had crappy unsuitable footwear for the walk) - in spite of being in a couple with his gf and having not seen her for a few days, he was still checking where I was walking and if I was getting over little rocks ok and offering a hand if needed, which is so well mannered and considerate. My dp declared he "sounded like a good sort" or something to that effect. But now he has criticised this and also made a snarky comment about an incident when this young guy texted me drunk late-ish while on a work night out.

(He only knew about it because I (sort of) complained the next day and said it was our if character).

He also seems on edge if I mention anything about the other male friend - acquaintance really - who I meet for coffee once in a blue moon.

As I said he made a comment about me visiting a gay friend I no longer hand out with on my own that made me Hmm - "that wouldn't have been happening with me" - when I described visiting him alone abroad (I also visited with my ex as a couple but apparently that wasn't worth considering). That comment made me uncomfortable.

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DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 20:38
  • out of character
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DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 20:40

women who are horrified that circumstances conspired to allow them to have sex with someone other than their partner.

Circumstances didn't conspire to allow them to sex with someone other than their partner.

Cone on.

Would you accept that from men?

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DarlingBuds19 · 19/10/2019 20:40

*Come on

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