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Desperately sad over his lies over another woman. I have her number shall I call her?

117 replies

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 07:21

Everyone is probably tucked up in bed right now but this is another sleepless night for me. I think my partner of 15 years is having a midlife crisis. He seems to have changed over night from a good guy to a man I simply don't completely recognise. I have wrote another post on the ins and outs on how all this started but I just need some emotional support for whats happening right now. Hes been staying away from home on and off for weeks now. First he was telling me he was sofa surfing because he wasn't happy at home. He was staying with people he knew from work and he was feeling depressed about certain aspects of his life. When he did come home he looked a mess. He was thin, dirty looking and hadnt taken a change of clothes. This was devastating for me as we have a 4 year old together who he wasn't being present for. He would come home, change his clothes and go to work. He would say he was coming home then text at the last minute saying he wasn't. My son has been very upset about his dad not being around and ive had to try to pick up the pieces. One day he called and because of his behaviour i asked him if he was staying with a woman. He said he was. He said she understood him and he could be his self with her.... Yeah like a dagger to the throat. He said nothing had gone on between them and he was staying on her sofa but he wanted to be with her.... I honestly went into panic mode. My once beautiful family was being torn apart and it was agonising. He kept repeating this behaviour and i told him he has to be there for his child. He came home and we had a long long talk. He had a daughter way before he met me and for various reasons he walked away when she was less than a year old and never saw her again. Now she is a grown woman and he wants to make contact. I softened a little because I do love him so much and I said I'd support him if that's the choice he wants. It changed things in my mind. We slowly stated to talk and we ended up kissing and sleeping together on 2 occasions. He said he had missed me. We talked about what he was going to do next. He even mentioned himself that he would like to heal things to work towards marriage in the future. I thought that maybe this was how it was going to be. One day he just went to work and went silent. I knew what was coming, i knew he wasn't coming home again. Sadly my son got sick that day and i had to call an ambulance and obviously contact his dad. He met me at thr hospital but he felt so distant. I was upset and he didn't hug me or comfort me. Alarm bells. I said asked him if he was planning on coming back that day and eventually via text he admitted he wasnt. He said he has no connection to me and it dosnt feel right between us.... I felt stupid and also violated and this hurt me deeply. So the next day he got sent home from work. Our son was home and poorly but he didn't come home. He said he was walking around towns processing stuff... That pissed me off. His son was ill. In my heart i felt like he was killing time until she finished work but I was hoping it was paranoia. Sohe text saying im drunk and angry leave me alone and then it was radio silence until he said he was with a friend from college and was safe. I actually half believed him. The next morning.... Yesterday he called on the way to work and i calmly told him how fed up I was with it all and something has to be done for the sake of our child. He said he was coming to see him and asked if i needed anything picking up. He turned up at 5.30.i told his little boy he was coming home and he was so excited and was looking through the window waiting.... He came in... His son came running to him and he just seemed disinterested. Straightaway he said he had to go out because the mother of his long lost daughter had agreed to meet (just as he clicks his fingers after leaving her to bring up a baby on her own, shes married and has other kids) he went about changing his top doing his hair and all those things... His son was following him around like a lost puppy. He was taking about how excited and nervous he was and how he was dreading it. He hada weird smirk that kept going across his face. I said... Why do you keep smiling and he was likr im not ite nerves. He said he was going to come home and tell me what happens. He texted me all the way saying how he knew he was gonna be told home truths etc and was feeling bad but just wanted to know his daughter.... So fast-forward. He never came home. I text, no answer, i called, no answer. He completely lied about the whole situation which is terrible. I checked his mobile phone bill and i saw a number. He texts me then texts this number.... ALOT. I am so tempted to call this number not to start a war, just to know the truth because every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie. I thought if he came home today to see his son while he is here id slip away and call it. I just need to know what's happening so I can move forward. Is it the right thing to do?

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Dieu · 13/10/2019 09:02

Who cares what she says? The point is that you need to get out of this relationship.
Was the fact that he never saw his daughter not a massive red flag for you, when you first got together?

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 09:03

I am planning on getting him out of my life but I'm tired of feeling like im being controlled to suit him. I won't be joining tinder or doing anything to make him think I'm as low as he is. Ive got the man i need he just happens to be 4.i have self respect because what he has used to cover his tracks has opened my eyes. I'm not thinking its all my fault because it isn't. Im a bloody good woman and I pride myself on that. But I'm not going to roll over and let him continue this horrible situation to suit him because he is loving the attention. I am moving on. I am going to be cutting contact and i am not a doormat and im not just bowing out silently

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MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 09:07

He never told me about it when we got together and when he did I told him it was the lie that hurt me. Yes looking back ans being older and wiser I should have just walked away but I didn't. Tge fact of the matter is I want him to realise im not stupid and im not a walk over. He has lost a lot through this and i know probably one day he will regret it but that's not my problem

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readingnc · 13/10/2019 09:09

He's loving the attention yet you're going to give him more? "Bowing out silently" is precisely what you should do.

Block him, block her, change the locks. Contact CMS for maintenance for your son and don't expect his sister to act as a go between for you

MrsMozartMkII · 13/10/2019 09:12

I understand your need to call the number. I'd feel the same.

Good that you're blocking him out of your life. I know you said you'd contact his sister about contact for your son, but sadly I expect he'll only want it when he sees you're getting on with your life.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 13/10/2019 09:13

As someone said he's using you and your home as a refuelling stop whenever it suits him, with no thought to the emotional hurt it causes you or your son!

I completely understand your need to find out the truth but even talking to the ow won't guarantee an answer so, IMO, it's not with the potential hurt and upset. Start telling yourself and others he's left due to infidelity. You know it's true, he's all but admitted it. Tell yourself it's over and start acting accordingly. You and your dc will be so much better for it

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 09:14

I will be blocking him. I just wanna say my truth and remove myself completely from the situation. I won't be going back and forth I just wanna make my point clear. I need to clear my head and get out the house for a bit. I need to do this because i feel like its chocking me

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HisBetterHalf · 13/10/2019 09:14

You know the truth already but if calling the number will give you some kind of closure then that's a decision only you can make. Be prepared for more hurt to come from it though. In the meantime bag up his belongings and leave them outside. Text him to pick them up by a certain time or they get collected by the bin men. How dare he treat you and his child like this. No matter how hard just put a line under this one no matter how much you want it to work you have seen his true colours. This is no midlife crisis, he is just a self centred nasty person

Opaljewel · 13/10/2019 09:16

I don't blame you for ringing her op. We all do things in different ways and that's your need. I would say definitely call her. But after that I would make sure all his bags and belongings are outside x good luck!

zafferana · 13/10/2019 09:18

I'm going to reach out to his sister so maybe she can help me with sorting out contact etc

No, don't do this! Firstly, it's fuck all to do with his sister, so don't involve her in this mess, and secondly stop facilitating his life for him. You're constantly trying to smooth the way and help him - stop doing that right now! He's fucking another woman and keeping you dangling on a string, doing the 'pick me dance' and still having sex with him 'because you love him' [eyeroll]

I can understand what being on the receiving end of this kind of treatment can do to a person's self respect, but all this nonsense has to stop right now. Get legal advice. Change the locks. Bag up all his stuff in bin bags and dump them outside your house and tell him to pick it all up within a week or it's going to the tip. And then don't do anything else for him again ever. From now on your priorities are you and your DS and that's it.

KOKOtiltomorrow · 13/10/2019 09:20

@MedusaMomma.....Im not doing this for any other reason than I NEED to know the truth

As others have said - you will NEVER get the truth. He will have spun her a pack of lies to get her hooked in - like he did with you - and that will be her truth. So although you might want to let her know, she will probably see it as more evidence that YOU are the problem.

I understand why you feel like this but there will be no “closure” from dealings with them - you have to make your own by dumping him and moving forward with your DS. Please don’t waste any more time or energy on this waste of oxygen.

RitmoRatmo · 13/10/2019 09:23

This man abandoned his first child (and her mother), abandoned his second child (and his mother - you) and abandoned a third child (your unborn baby you then felt pushed to terminate).

He picks up and puts down a variety of women at his leisure.

He cruelly ignores his little boy when he deigns to swan in.

Your son will be receiving the message loud and clear that he is worthless to his father, comes last on the pecking list, and is at the mercy of whether his father will be swanning in or out.

This all makes my heart ache for your little boy. Please, please, please don’t continue to allow any more of this behaviour from your ex.

As others have said: you don’t need any more proof that you’re justified in kicking him out. Don’t go searching for extra validation/proof/revenge etc.

Just bag up his stuff, change the locks, block his number & contact CMS for maintenance. Now is the time to coolly take control and assert yourself.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 09:27

I'm not playing the pick me dance. I wouldn't want him near me again ever. The only thing that really scared him before was when I said she needs to know the truth. Maybe i shouldn't call her. Maybe i should just text it when i know he isn't with her and then he can deal with what ever he has to. Me im just gonna deal with my own stuff and live my life

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readingnc · 13/10/2019 09:47

The truth about what? That he was still having sex with you too? I'm sure she was aware of that. It won't make any difference to her

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 09:51

Its not just that believe me I feel totally ashamed with myself I really do. I just want her to know he is not as he seems. She can do with it as she pleases. He left me when I was pregnant and all the other stuff that went with it. Im not hoping that this will bring him home. I honestly want him home today so I can tell him to his face and he can take his stuff and finally just leave me alone. I won't be pushed to the side without kicking out. Its what I feel I should do then he can do one once and for all

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SprinkleDash · 13/10/2019 10:35

He’s not a nice person and probably never was. Was just wearing a mask for your benefit!

I wouldn’t call her, I’d cut all contact with him immediately and arrange contact with DC through a third party; although by the sounds of it I don’t think Twat Face will be very interested. Probably a good idea to get an STI check too.

CooperLooper · 13/10/2019 10:50

It's obvious he's having either a physical or at minimum an emotional affair with at least one other person. Despite knowing that, if I were you I would also need to know who she is and I would probably call too. Otherwise I'd always wonder and regret not investigating.

Also children are very very observant and your little one will be picking up on the tension and strange behaviours. Your priority (which you know anyway) is 1) protect your son and 2) focus on your own self respect and self care.

Good luck OP, your post has really affected me today and I'll be thinking about you and how you get on xxx

Bluntness100 · 13/10/2019 10:56

Sounds like you want to break them up op, that's why you want to tell her.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 11:21

Its not about breaking anyone else up i dont even want my head to go there. All im focusing on now is doing what I feel is right for me to continue forward. Its obvious im going to be a single mom and i dont see why she shouldn't be told what he has done. I don't care what she does with it i really don't.

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DBML · 13/10/2019 11:42

Op if you want to phone her then just phone her. Stay calm, say your piece. Listen if she speaks to you...remember he’s the one who’s done this, she might not know the full extent of your relationship.

It really doesn’t matter what your motive is.

Once you put down the phone, don’t dwell on it. It’s time to move on. Bag up his things and store them away. Don’t take his calls. Communicate only by text and only if he asks about your DS. It’s the only way you’ll start to heal.

DBML · 13/10/2019 11:44
  • peace 🙄 not piece.
Bluntness100 · 13/10/2019 11:54

Then just do it op.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 12:54

Well it's evident he isn't coming to see his son today so that's just awful. I've texted him and asked what time he wants him and nothing. This is what makes me so angry. An innocent child

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litterbird · 13/10/2019 12:57

This has been going on for quite some time now....calling her will do nothing for you. You have all the evidence you need. Don't get pulled in to their drama. Leave him be. I know you want revenge, but revenge is best served cold. Leave him be, leave her be. Get on with your own life, get a grip and move on. Its over, you know it...find the strength and get on with it. You can do it.

yawnhedehihi · 13/10/2019 12:58

OP it's time for you to take control. Pack his things up and tell him to come and collect them. Take his key away. Stop chasing him about seeing your son. Keep communication open regarding your son but let your ex come to you.