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Desperately sad over his lies over another woman. I have her number shall I call her?

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MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 07:21

Everyone is probably tucked up in bed right now but this is another sleepless night for me. I think my partner of 15 years is having a midlife crisis. He seems to have changed over night from a good guy to a man I simply don't completely recognise. I have wrote another post on the ins and outs on how all this started but I just need some emotional support for whats happening right now. Hes been staying away from home on and off for weeks now. First he was telling me he was sofa surfing because he wasn't happy at home. He was staying with people he knew from work and he was feeling depressed about certain aspects of his life. When he did come home he looked a mess. He was thin, dirty looking and hadnt taken a change of clothes. This was devastating for me as we have a 4 year old together who he wasn't being present for. He would come home, change his clothes and go to work. He would say he was coming home then text at the last minute saying he wasn't. My son has been very upset about his dad not being around and ive had to try to pick up the pieces. One day he called and because of his behaviour i asked him if he was staying with a woman. He said he was. He said she understood him and he could be his self with her.... Yeah like a dagger to the throat. He said nothing had gone on between them and he was staying on her sofa but he wanted to be with her.... I honestly went into panic mode. My once beautiful family was being torn apart and it was agonising. He kept repeating this behaviour and i told him he has to be there for his child. He came home and we had a long long talk. He had a daughter way before he met me and for various reasons he walked away when she was less than a year old and never saw her again. Now she is a grown woman and he wants to make contact. I softened a little because I do love him so much and I said I'd support him if that's the choice he wants. It changed things in my mind. We slowly stated to talk and we ended up kissing and sleeping together on 2 occasions. He said he had missed me. We talked about what he was going to do next. He even mentioned himself that he would like to heal things to work towards marriage in the future. I thought that maybe this was how it was going to be. One day he just went to work and went silent. I knew what was coming, i knew he wasn't coming home again. Sadly my son got sick that day and i had to call an ambulance and obviously contact his dad. He met me at thr hospital but he felt so distant. I was upset and he didn't hug me or comfort me. Alarm bells. I said asked him if he was planning on coming back that day and eventually via text he admitted he wasnt. He said he has no connection to me and it dosnt feel right between us.... I felt stupid and also violated and this hurt me deeply. So the next day he got sent home from work. Our son was home and poorly but he didn't come home. He said he was walking around towns processing stuff... That pissed me off. His son was ill. In my heart i felt like he was killing time until she finished work but I was hoping it was paranoia. Sohe text saying im drunk and angry leave me alone and then it was radio silence until he said he was with a friend from college and was safe. I actually half believed him. The next morning.... Yesterday he called on the way to work and i calmly told him how fed up I was with it all and something has to be done for the sake of our child. He said he was coming to see him and asked if i needed anything picking up. He turned up at 5.30.i told his little boy he was coming home and he was so excited and was looking through the window waiting.... He came in... His son came running to him and he just seemed disinterested. Straightaway he said he had to go out because the mother of his long lost daughter had agreed to meet (just as he clicks his fingers after leaving her to bring up a baby on her own, shes married and has other kids) he went about changing his top doing his hair and all those things... His son was following him around like a lost puppy. He was taking about how excited and nervous he was and how he was dreading it. He hada weird smirk that kept going across his face. I said... Why do you keep smiling and he was likr im not ite nerves. He said he was going to come home and tell me what happens. He texted me all the way saying how he knew he was gonna be told home truths etc and was feeling bad but just wanted to know his daughter.... So fast-forward. He never came home. I text, no answer, i called, no answer. He completely lied about the whole situation which is terrible. I checked his mobile phone bill and i saw a number. He texts me then texts this number.... ALOT. I am so tempted to call this number not to start a war, just to know the truth because every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie. I thought if he came home today to see his son while he is here id slip away and call it. I just need to know what's happening so I can move forward. Is it the right thing to do?

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usersouthcoast · 13/10/2019 08:00

If this other woman knows the truth, he will tell more lies, call you a psycho ex, and she will believe him and carry on with him!
The conversation will go something like this:
Her: your ex just called. I thought it was done? She said you two slept together recently?
Him: god, did she? I told you she was a psycho. All I'm trying to do is see my son but my god she makes it so hard. I went round to take him out but she won't let me take him anywhere, so I just shut myself away with him in the lounge when I'm there. He's so cuddly and misses me so much I can tell. She's making this a nightmare. Gave her £1000 the other day too for food etc, empty fridge!
Her: oh you poor thing. It will get sorted eventually.

She will then not listen to a further word you say.

In the nicest possible way you really need to give your head a wobble, and get really bloody angry. He's taking you for a total mug right now

Hadalifeonce · 13/10/2019 08:07

To be totally honest, I would have to know too.
I would probably call and say I'm xxxx's wife, as he has dropped off the radar, but told me he is living with you, can I please have the address to forward his mail?

Angrybird123 · 13/10/2019 08:09

Why on earth do you think she doesn't already know? My exs other woman had met me and my children, see us together as a family. Didn't stop her. You DO already know. Ringing her will be traumatic and not give you the closure you want.. She'll either lie or be an utter bitch, either way it won't help you. I absolutely understand the hurt and bewilderment but this won't help. Get clarity. Get control. Get legal advice and real life support. Today.

Brenna24 · 13/10/2019 08:10

Sadly you are no more likely to get the truth from her than from him. She either knows about you and has carried on anyway or usersouthcoast has it right and she thinks that you are the crazy ex and she will brush you off then have that conversation with him. Whatever the truth is, you and your son deserve better. Bag all his stuff up by the door and chuck him out with it next time he comes back. And definitely get a STI check.

pennyhasdropped · 13/10/2019 08:11

Lots and lots of lies on his part for sure if call if only to get some sort of closure on this whole sorry mess! Be prepared for a few surprises and I'd hazard guess that he's told some awful lies about you and your relationship in order to be accepted by her. You both deserve the truth and if she's a decent woman she will give you it. Be calm, it's not entirely her doing.. yes she's the other woman but he's the vile man in this sorry mess.

Interestedwoman · 13/10/2019 08:11

To those saying to call- wouldn't the person (presumably OW) at the other end probably just lie? Worth a go though, I suppose.

fruitinaheapisnotabirthdaycake · 13/10/2019 08:13

I would phone as I would hate to think he was taking the piss

Sammy04 · 13/10/2019 08:21

Don’t let him in the house again.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 08:22

To be honest if she believes his lies then that's more fool her. I just need to tell her whats been happening then ive spoke my truth. Im not desperately clinging to the fact that nothing has happened and he can come home. Even if that is the case which it certainly isn't... I'm done with it all. I don't need the stress of it all. I want to move on. If she doesn't believe me that's up to her. I asked him when he told me about her if she knew what had been happening and how everyone involved needs to know exactly where they stand and he said that I wouldn't dare say anything and if I did I'd be making a fool of myself. You see he needs to realise he can't keep manipulating people and situations to his own advantage especially when children are involved. That's not me saying that I'm going to forgive him and start planning Christmas. I hand in heart do not want to be near than man after ive said my bit

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SuperSange · 13/10/2019 08:29

I don't understand. You do know the truth. He's checked out and is cheating. Can you not accept that?

Igetknockeddownbutgetupagain · 13/10/2019 08:29

Oh God, my heart hurts for you and your lovely boy, reading this. But I can’t help but think this is it now, the demarcation point where you begin to get your life back and are finally rid of that selfish disgusting excuse for a human. He has done you a huge favour, actually, leaving. He must never be allowed back. How dare he treat your home like a refuelling stop? HOW DARE HE ignore your son??? I’m angry for you!!!
Please make sure you find someone in real life you can tell about this. You need support right now.

MarianaMoatedGrange · 13/10/2019 08:30

he said that I wouldn't dare say anything and if I did I'd be making a fool of myself.

Oh he said that, did he? Call her! I'd certainly do so after that remark!

usersouthcoast · 13/10/2019 08:33

He will worm his way out of whatever you tell her. Please don't call. Please put your energy into starting proper separation proceedings.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 08:37

I am at the point where i just want more from my life. Im not looking for anything other than telling her how it is and let him deal with the fallout. Its a pattern in his life lying. He isolates people so they can't question each other. He told me once his grandfather had died and he was alive and kicking.. That's my point his lies need to be exposed because he is damaging lives. I need to say my bit. I can be called and branded any name under the sun but at least I know I'm not a liar. I am the winner in the end because I have a wonderful loving son who I get to tuck k in at night and see grow into a beautiful little man. I get to see all his adventures play out in real time and not from the side lines. His father only ever comes back to please himself and not for his little boy. I will make sure he has a great life and he knows everyday he is important and loved

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readingnc · 13/10/2019 08:40

Right. Ring her then.

MedusaMomma · 13/10/2019 08:40

We aren't married so he can just walk away with no problems. After today I am cutting all contact with him. I'm going to reach out to his sister so maybe she can help me with sorting out contact etc because i dont want the resentment to interfere in my sons life

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Huskylover1 · 13/10/2019 08:40

Jeeeeeez.

In the nicest way possible, stop being such a DOORMAT.

The reason he comes and goes, ignores you one moment, and then confides in you the next, is because you are always there, hanging ona string for him.

Block his number. Change the locks. Nothing else will grab his attention quite so much as you suddenly not being available as his back up plan.

DO NOT ENGAGE WHATSOEVER.

And in 3 weeks time, place a pair of Mens size 12 Boots on the doorstep. Buy a pair in a 2nd hand shop. Make him wonder what the fuck is going on with you, and what other man is in your house.

He's a nasty dick. Get rid and find your self respect and self worth. You are worth 1000 of him. As for him deserting a baby? Fuck me!!

TheStuffedPenguin · 13/10/2019 08:41

He's not having a mid life crisis - he's having an affair . More than that his behaviour also sounds like it is affecting his job . You do mention your son a lot in your OP and it seems as if you expect your partner to do the right thing . He won't - he has form with this and he left you when you were pregnant. You will be much better off without this man .Phoning ? I understand why you want to but rise above it . It will only bring additional stress and negativity so concentrate on you and your son and your new life .

Mesaageinmybottle · 13/10/2019 08:43

Agree with the above poster. You need to stop being so passive and start taking control. Pack his bags, tell him they are ready for him to collect and tell him you want a divorce and you will be citing Adultry as the reason. Take the power back!

TheStuffedPenguin · 13/10/2019 08:43

I'm going to reach out to his sister so maybe she can help me with sorting out contact etc because i dont want the resentment to interfere in my sons life

Why would you do this ? It's like when I watch the Jeremy Kyle show - why do these mothers ever want their children to be in contact with a deadbeat ?

Whatevskev · 13/10/2019 08:44

Don’t call
It just makes you look bad and you need to check out of this with your head high

You know he’s behaving terribly whether that includes sleeping with her or not

What a PP said is true anyway he will spin her lies that you are crazy.

His behaviour towards you and your son is terrible and he is doing exactly what he wants and when with zero consideration for either of you

Get angry OP and value yourself and boot him out, male him get his stuff, get your key back or change the locks and get formal in getting child support or contact arranged

Block him on phone and stay away from him

usersouthcoast · 13/10/2019 08:47

@Huskylover1 this is fantastic!!
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Block his number. Change the locks. Nothing else will grab his attention quite so much as you suddenly not being available as his back up plan.

DO NOT ENGAGE WHATSOEVER.

And in 3 weeks time, place a pair of Mens size 12 Boots on the doorstep. Buy a pair in a 2nd hand shop. Make him wonder what the fuck is going on with you, and what other man is in your house.*

Can I also suggest joining tinder and letting that get back to him also!

readingnc · 13/10/2019 08:51

Jesus. What is wrong with you all?

Men's boots, tinder, ringing his sister? Confused

Sorry op but you need a reality check. He's a user and a liar and he doesn't give two shits about anyone. He's not having a "mid-life crisis" there is no such thing.

Block him and move on. Don't have him in the house using your child as the excuse. Ring the OW if you want but you won't get anywhere and still won't know the truth.

ChippyPickledEggs · 13/10/2019 08:54

What an absolute bastard. I'm so sorry OP. Get him out of your life - he's never going to come good.

ChippyPickledEggs · 13/10/2019 09:01

Also to echo what other posters have said. You're not ever going to know the truth. Because he won't tell you and she probably won't either. You can phone her but you will never know whether you have the whole story. Better to accept that you already know enough and disengage.