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my male best friend just told me that he thinks my DP is abusing me

319 replies

helpisitme · 09/10/2019 18:22

I met up with my best friend of 15 years last night and was telling him how things were going with my DP. I have been with DP just under a year. I said that we had been arguing lately. What I told him I thought was "normal" arguing... I gave a few examples and he was taken aback at what I told him. He said that he was emotionally abusing me and that I needed to leave him. I have no reason to think my friend would encourage me to end our relationship for his own benefit (he's gay and married) or that he dislikes DP? I know DP isn't an angel, but I am not sure I am being abused?

I basically gave an example of the only "big" argument we've had (incidentally the first time he's ever been nasty). DP was meant to pick me up from work because my car broke down. He was 45 minutes late. I was noticeably annoyed getting in the car, dripping wet and full of cold. He was late because he was chatting to his friends after he had done his hobby with them. He asked what was up - I said that I was cold and tired. He shouted at me, saying that I shouldn't "make him feel guilty" and that I was manipulative. He said he ALWAYS put me first and considered me, but I never considered him, and that I was selfish and self-centred. I told him that I did things for him and always consider how he feels, it wasn't him I was annoyed with, but the situation (e.g. having a cold/being cold). He ignored me for the rest of the drive, dropped me at my house (he was meant to come in) and drove home, saying he was "done". I was crying and apologising for upsetting him, asking him to please come back, but he ignored me, and then told me the relationship was over. I accepted this. A week later after the silent treatment, he called to say he overreacted and for us to get back together. I said yes, because this was the first time this had happened.

Another occasion, I told him over a very busy weekend "you're always so busy, rushing around looking after everyone else!" gave him a hug and jokingly said "now I know why you fall asleep replying to my messages! you're so sweet, but you need to sleep!". I said this because in the past, I had commented that he shouldn't feel compelled to reply to my messages late at night instead of sleeping (he had told me work was busy). He started saying that I was manipulative again - saying that I was "not trusting of how he spent his time", and how "everything is an issue to you". He again didn't speak to me for 3 days.

I brought up to him last week that I was feeling overwhelmed at work, my mum isn't well and my MH was getting bad and I was feeling generally rubbish. Insecurities stemming from my body image (previous anorexia) makes me feel shit about myself when I am stressed. I rang him basically asking why his ex had commented on his social media, because I didn't think they were in contact. This is the ex who cheated on him, and who openly calls me a "slag" to anyone who will listen. It was totally out of order of me to do this, I know. I apologized immediately. He told me it wasn't an issue and he would remove her. He ignored me for a week again, despite me asking him to talk to me, saying I was sorry etc.

He always tells me whenever I am unhappy or bring up an issue that I am "destroying the relationship" and that "you've ruined who we are". He will NEVER respond in an argument to me, I am always just met with "okay" and the silent treatment. He always threatens to break up over the smallest of disagreements. Nothing is ever a small discussion, any small criticism or concern is dragged out for weeks. I am scared to bring up anything to him in all honesty and feel myself being pushed away as a way to make me suffer, if I do. He always says "you're always accusing me" Confused

The common theme seems to be that I make him feel bad. If I mention anything, even if I think it is wrong, it will always be twisted into how I am "making him feel guilty". He said he shouldn't have to change anything he does for me.

My friend told me he was stonewalling me, gaslighting me (you're the problem with this relationship, not the issues), and projecting onto me (e.g. in the car pick up example, my friend said he SHOULD have felt guilty as he had left you waiting knowing you were ill, and that HE was being manipulative trying to make me feel unreasonable for being annoyed).

Is this abuse? I think abuse is too strong? I do feel uneasy with any conflict with him, but I am not scared of him. He's sensitive, and maybe I am too critical?

OP posts:
ThanosSavedMe · 13/10/2019 16:21

Wh bother. It’s a new relationship when things are supposed to be great and it isn’t. Eat out and meet someone new.

ThanosSavedMe · 13/10/2019 16:21

Get out

codesandbargains · 13/10/2019 17:38

@StealthPussy what agenda? I was advising the same as you - to text "it's over, don't contact me again" and not discuss it. I also suspected that the OP wouldn't do this unless she was aware that her partner may be trying to/have finished with her, and that she would be taking the comments on this thread and lambasting her partner with it. And see her last post. I know you are well meaning but I have seen this from the other side.

Babochan88 · 13/10/2019 18:15

It sounds emotionally abusive but he may not know he’s doing it?. Maybe couples counselling. But yeah deffo alarm bells which need to be addressed. Try seeing if it can be fixed

Babochan88 · 13/10/2019 18:16

Wait is he’s your partner not hubby? Yeah, sack him off

helpisitme · 13/10/2019 20:08

@codesandbargains

It seems so bizarre that you need to be "right".

OP posts:
Mummadeeze · 13/10/2019 20:16

It will only get worse. Get out whilst you can. Silent treatment after many years of it just sucks the fun out of life and drains you. Don’t ignore the red flags.

Binglebong · 13/10/2019 20:21

You know what, that poster has done some good. You're angry now and explaining to them why this behaviour is abuse seems to have clarified it for you too. You can see clearly now that he's in the wrong.

The guy is a dick. It will hurt but you need to move on. Flowers

MarianaMoatedGrange · 13/10/2019 20:30

OP leaving you for 45 minutes in the rain when you are ill while he's just chatting cannot be construed as anything other than him being a selfish twat. I can't fathom why you want to discuss his behaviour with him. He knows damn well the effect his silent treatment has and he revels in it.

codesandbargains · 13/10/2019 21:41

OP - you asked for advice and I have given advice and said what I thought, based on my reading of your OP, and your subsequent posts. I have tried to be helpful. You went from furiously saying to me how abusive his behaviour was and how could I not agree with you, to saying you were going to talk to him about him being a dismissive avoidant. There is nothing bizarre in what I am saying, whether I am right or wrong. If you wanted to challenge what I said you could have done so by simply saying "You are wrong" or even "You are wrong because x y z".

Anyway - beyond saying that, I have reflected and actually I think the pp saying I had an agenda had a point. I have been on the receiving end of something which sounds similar to this situation. I don't feel I can be completely open about it all here, it is true. So I think it would be better for me to stop contributing because I do sort of have an agenda.

So there it is, I am out. I am going to hide the thread now so that I don't get drawn back in.

BrusselSprouts12345 · 13/10/2019 21:41

Sounds like my DP. Who I have decided, over something pretty small, incidentally, that I don't want to be with him anymore and realised that I don't love him. I don't even like him very much anymore.
We haven't had a row, as such, today but probably because I don't care enough anymore to argue with him. I can't be bothered anymore.
It's complicated though because I'm 17wks pregnant, however my house is mine, my car is mine, everything I own is mine, I pay for my children's school fees and clothes and food... he earns a fortune but does fuck all... I just need to tell him to move out and that I don't want to be with him. But I'll do that tomorrow when I can be bothered. He spat his dummy out and threw his toys out of the Pram this morning, while on a weekend away without our children, because I didn't seem as happy as he thought I should have... I had just woken up, had morning sickness and he wanted to go for a stroll along a beach that, to get to, we have to go down 500 steps down the side of a cliff... we have done it almost everyday to keep him happy but the pregnancy, my fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue and the fact I had JUST WOKEN UP meant I didn't leap out of bed ready full of energy. Instead I said "hmmmmmmm ask me again after I've had my morning cup of tea honey" and that was it.
Thing is, once he had gone quiet, sulked and ignored me for an hour, he made the mistake of saying in a baby voice "shall we just go home then babe - obviously you don't want to be here and it was a mistake coming here?"
Usually I would snap a smile on and pander to him and mother him back into a happy setting, just to keep the peace - like my mother used to with my abusive father.
But I couldn't be arsed. I know he wanted me to say "no babe, let's not ruin this and let's just make up - I love you"
Instead I said "yeah, I'll drive."
I could tell he was shocked and I don't think, until we were an hour out of Cornwall, driving towards London, that he actually believed I was going through with it.
I'm so relieved to be home and can't wait to see my son in the morning when I get him from my mum's!
I'll deal with the man baby after a good night's sleep but this is definitely the beginning of the end for me - and it should be for you too!!!!!!!
Get out before he completely fucks with your head and makes your MH even worse because you will think you are going mad.

Euromillsplz · 17/10/2019 19:25

Blimey, @helpis and @brussels- how are you both getting on? Flowers Flowers

Witchinaditch · 18/10/2019 07:23

Your friend is right you’re lucky you have someone looking out for you. Relationships don’t have to be like this leave now while it’s easy to

Moondancer73 · 18/10/2019 07:31

Your friend is right and if it's happening already it will only get worse. You need to get out now.

IfIHadAPenny · 18/10/2019 08:17

It's amazing you've managed such a 360 change of opinion, OP.

You've gone from being convinced you're not in an abusive relationship, to passionately and intelligently debating with the one poster who said it may not be.

Hopefully you've focused that energy to get rid.

JenniferM1989 · 18/10/2019 09:05

Your friend is right, sorry

womenspeakout · 18/10/2019 09:47

Your friend is right, and you should end it.

Get out, you don't need to talk to him about this, he won't change, he thinks and tells you you are the problem.

Tell him he's right, clearly you are making him unhappy, so it's best to end it now for both of us and block him from your life.

womenspeakout · 18/10/2019 09:53

*It's amazing you've managed such a 360 change of opinion, OP.

You've gone from being convinced you're not in an abusive relationship, to passionately and intelligently debating with the one poster who said it may not be.*

  1. 360 gets you back to the position you started from.
IfIHadAPenny · 18/10/2019 09:58

180. 360 gets you back to the position you started from

Thank you, and quite right, that made me laugh! Clearly I need to wake up properly before posting Grin

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