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What can I do - husband is so unreasonable and aggressive

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Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 11:11

Where to start!, Well firstly I apologise for the rant that I am probably going to be doing, it'll be all over the place and probably not even make sense. Anyway here goes... I am having a nightmare of a time at home. I have two young kids (toddlers at nursery), I work part time and while I am at work my kids are at nursery. My husband isn't working and picks them up and night, I am normally just in shortly after him. He makes all our dinner, including mine, but he is just so unreasonable with me, if he has a hard time with them, its me that gets in when I walk in the door, he insists I take over as he has had enough of their shit!, cant deal with them anymore its about time I took my turn bla bla bla, all the while he is shoving my dinner in front on me moaning, ranting about all the work he has put into it if I don't sit down to it immediately even though he wants me to deal with the kids.

He never sits down with us for meals, more times than not he is drinking, he thinks he has earned the right to that as he has been busy in the house all day, like I do nothing, I go to work, out of the house for 10 hours come home to this, and two tired kids (overtired sometimes) and the barrage of abuse that is coming from him. He thinks he has the hard end of the bargain, when I finish with the kids, getting them to bed, sometimes that could be 9PM, he insists that I take my turn and take the dog out for a walk, as he has had to do it all day, if I tell him I am tired and up at 6am next day as I have work, he screams and balls up at me that I am a lazy fat cow, my kids have started to repeat his language and shout things at me. I try to ignore him but it makes him worse, he gets louder screaming upstairs at me, when kids are in bed I normally go to bed to block it all out, sometimes I do take the dog out just to get away from it all, but if I am too tired I don't back down I just go to bed and ignore him.. It starts again next morning when I have to hurry to get to work, if kids act up, for example telling me they are not wearing what I have put out or don't want to brush teeth etc and I am in a hurry I have to tell him he needs to take over I need to leave for work, I get called all the names under the sun told I shouldn't be a mother, etc etc. I need to go to work why doesn't he understand that. If someone comes to visit I hope and pray that they don't say something that will set him off as its me that has to listen to his rant when they leave.

If I discipline my kids, take toys away, raise my voice /tone then he threatens me that he will record me shouting and will report me to social services, I am not doing anything that any mother wouldn't do, I am raising my voice when I need to , I don't like this but cant have kids ruling me.

Forgot to mention he even brings up things from my past, like me dad being a drinker, not being there for me when I was young, which isn't true he was a drinker but sorted it out and is a great dad now. He twists everything people say and uses things against me, I have even had to delete friends and family's numbers from my phone and change my pin on my phone as he wants to send them messages when he is drunk as he thinks they don't do enough to help us with the kids, (our kids!) both our families are very supportive and help with the kids as much as they can. He sings along to songs on radio and changes the words to insult me it has gotten to the stage there are songs I cannot listen to without hearing his abusive version.

I spend most of my time off work out with the kids as I cannot take being in the house with him. If I arrange something like a day out with friends and their kids he complains we never do anything together although on days were we have no plans, and I ask him to come out with us he laughs in my face, tells me to f**k off and says he needs some time to himself he is knackered as he has the kids all the time, not sure where he gets this from they are at nursery when I am at work. I can't win.

Please help, What can I do, I cant take this much longer but I know if I leave it will upset my kids and also he wont leave us alone? He goes on that he feels ill, this is taking its toll on me I feel ill, help?

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Imaysnapandfart · 01/08/2019 11:15

OP this is not a healthy relationship at all. You say that if you leave, you will upset your kids - but is it not upsetting for them to be in this toxic environment?

This does not sound like a loving relationship at all, and you sound exhausted and at the end of your tether.

This is abuse, OP, and I think you need to take yourself and your children out of this situation.

Imaysnapandfart · 01/08/2019 11:16

Can you get some help and advice from your family? You say you work - will you be able to support yourself and your kids? Sounds like you'd be better off without him financially if he's not working, but drinking all the time which is expensive.

Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 11:17

I know deep down that this is the only thing to do, but doing it is a different kettle of fish, I am worried that we will never get peace from him, I am not the type of person to call the police if he does hassle us, I know I should be I need to toughen up. I am too soft for my own good. We have been together for over 20 years, you would think that would mean something to him. He is clearly mentally ill but I cant help him anymore. I feel he is going to make me crack up

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Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 11:19

I would actually be better off financially as I will get help with tax credits etc, it is just making the move that is hard, his mother is ill and he has battled depression in the past he uses this as emotional blackmail when I suggest we separate.

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Teddybear45 · 01/08/2019 11:19

Tell him he has to go back to work. Then once he’s back at work (and so can’t get full custody) take the kids and leave.

Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2019 11:23

He's a vile bully. Sounds like a narcissist. They always use your past against you and twist things.

Get shot if him. He hates you. Hates. Don't doubt it for a second. Get as far away as possible from him.

bionicnemonic · 01/08/2019 11:23

Just reading that left me feeling really upset and agitated. Flowers

Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2019 11:27

Oh and FYI narcissists often claim to gave depression in order to excuse their crap behaviour/make you feel sorry for them.

It is NOT mental illness. It is a personality disorder: who.he.is.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 01/08/2019 11:29

You need specialist help from someone like Women's Aid. It's not as easy as saying ltb when the b could say they are the children's main carer.

That's not to say you shouldn't ltb, you absolutely should. But you need support to do it properly.

Ndotto · 01/08/2019 11:30

Please leave. This was my life for years when my kids were young. He finally pissed off after inheriting enough money to do so without getting a job (!) and I wish we had split up earlier but I was, like you, worried how I would make ends meet on my own and manage to go to work and look after a family. Reading this brings back how awful my relationship was though, and I wish I had got our earlier. For my sake, and the sake of my kids who I worry have no model for a healthy relationship. Best of luck OP and sending you all the best wishes in the world, I really hope you can sort this. Please don't let him bully you anymore, he sounds like an absolute arse.

DarkestBeforeTheDawn4 · 01/08/2019 11:34

TeddyBear has a good point. You wouldnt want him to twist things to appear as the residental parent. Would he look for a job? Obviously no way you can force him to get one. I'd want to make sure he couldn't claim he's the residential parent before leaving.

pallasathena · 01/08/2019 11:34

See a solicitor.
You can't go on like this OP.
If you love your kids (as I'm sure that you do), you must put their wellbeing first in all of this.
If you don't, then your future will be full of regrets and theirs will be irretrievably damaged.

ChihuahuaMummy1 · 01/08/2019 11:36

This is one of the worst dh threads I've seen in a while.Kick him out OP hes a vile bully.

Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 11:36

I would actually manage better on my own as my kids nursery hours are workable around my job, I work the days they are in and can put them in early and be back in time to pick them up. I would be financialy better off without him too. I just cant muster up the courage to go without being the bitch, since he thinks he is the hard done by one he always manages to make it all my fault.

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hellsbellsmelons · 01/08/2019 11:39

Oh dear.
What an awful model of a relationship to show your DC.
They are now repeating his behaviour.
They will turn out just like him or find someone just like him for future relationships.
What a depressing thought.
End it and separate, if not for you then please think of your DC.

You do need to toughen up.
You need to assert yourself.

Why doesn't he work?
How old are your DC?

You say your family will support you so get rid.
As fast as possible.

Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 11:45

The kids are under 5, I don't want to give too much away in my posts incase he reads anything, he couldn't on my phone as I have changed the PIN but he might go online and view these sites. My family hate him I had to leave a few months ago (for one night wish I hadn't went back but I am trying to keep kids as normal as possible). as I came home to him so drunk he was calling me all the names under the sun throwing things as me and spat at me in front of the kids, just told my mum and dad he was drunk and shouting didn't tell them the whole situation I cant have my dad know the full extent he would explode and that wouldn't help.

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justilou1 · 01/08/2019 11:46

I think you know what to do.

Missingstreetlife · 01/08/2019 11:53

Can't understand why kids in nursery if he is home or, if kids in Nursery why he doesn't work. You know what to do.

rightteous · 01/08/2019 11:57

Why isn’t he working?

Feelingwalkedover · 01/08/2019 11:59

You have to leave him for your kids sake.they depend on you to keep them safe

isitfridayyet1 · 01/08/2019 12:03

Gosh this is awful, please leave him! Do you own the home together? I think it's time to start secretly planning your and your children's future without him. I really don't see this improving, he shouldn't be using depression as an excuse either.

Thismummyneedshelp · 01/08/2019 12:10

He hasn't worked for a while, when kids born it made sense for me to go back to work and for him to stay at home, as we got a nursery place based on being on benefits along with my income. He hasn't worked for a long time, over 10 years, for years it was due to the depression and now would struggle to get back into it. He cant take instruction he is definitely a Narcassist as others have said! he thinks the world owes him a living. I know what I need to do, just need to pluck up the courage to do it. He makes out that he cant work as he needs to be at home, but he is there and they are at nursery we could manage without him at home.

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Idontwanttotalk · 01/08/2019 12:10

Why doesn't your husband work? What does he do in the daytime - is he looking for work and struggling so becoming stressed?

Has he always been so vile or is only since not working and having to look after the DC?

Just wondering if he's always been the wrong one for you and you are only realising now or if he has problems that need addressing that would then help you all.

Zofloramummy · 01/08/2019 12:10

You know what you need to do, you are scared to do it. Yes it will be messy and stressful and he will probably be a twat. But that time will pass and life will settle down. Yes you will still have to have contact, but it won’t be everyday.

If you stay then this is it. This is what your life will be like. There is no magic wand to fix him. He sounds like an utterly nasty man and no depression causes someone to be abusive to others. He will destroy your mental health, your relationship with your dc, their chances at having happy healthy relationships in their own life’s. And he will blame you for all of it.

If you tell your parents you make it real. That’s why you haven’t, because then you’ll have to act and that scares you. You must be living on adrenaline and you’re currently stuck in frozen mode. He sounds like he is well in the way to be being an alcoholic. You have to step up and protect yourself and your kids from this toxic environment.

Read Lundy Bancroft ‘why does he do that’, rings women’s aid for advice, confide in someone in rl even a friend at work if you don’t want to tell your family. Start saving some money. Is your home rented or mortgage? Make sure you know where all your important documents are and hide any sentimental photographs and keepsakes.

You can do this, no one deserves to live in an environment where they are verbally abused, spat at (assault) and treated this way. Flowers

Zofloramummy · 01/08/2019 12:12

Sorry for the spelling! It was my second attempt as I accidentally deleted the first one and did not proof read it!

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