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What's going on? DP's female friend

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BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:17

I regularly post under a different username. Some of my posts would out me. Sorry it is a bit long.

DP has a female friend I have never met. After a string of events that looked a bit iffy he called me by her name when drunk, which caused the first row. Not only have I not met her but I have not met the mutual friends they have. He socialises with this group of friends (weekends away etc) and I know nothing about them, other than some of the men's first names.

He has admitted to taking her out for a meal, he has met her children at least once, and he said he had been to her house a few times.
She is a Facebook friend of his. I'm not and none of his fb info is visible. She is also on his contact list. I have not said I looked at her facebook.

Because he never mentioned her before he called me by her name, and because we had a big argument.I asked him to have nothing to do with her and he said Ok. When I saw a fb notification on his page a few weeks later when he showed me something on facebook I asked him to unfriend her caused a massive fight. He rang her and handed the phone to me. I didn't say anything.

He is a fb friend of hers and has liked something on her page since the big argument. There is a limit to what I can see on her facebook. I have not mentioned that I have looked at her facebook. I don't think he is the children's father.

We don't live together and it's a LDR. The other day, after he had been abroad for over a week and only been back 2 nights, I asked him what he did the previous evening as he hadn't texted or phoned. He said he'd ' had a few drinks and was with Br ' . Br being the first two letters of her name, Brenda (not really but it might be outing). I asked him who he was with and he said no-one, and described what he'd done that evening. He sounded quite angry that I asked and I made a jokey comment and we were ok for a few days. Was he with her or just trying to make me think he was?

After dwelling on this for a few days, I sent him a text saying ' you were with her on Sunday weren't you. ' I got a text back saying ' F off you psychopath '. I rang and he was drunk and raging at me on the phone.

It's strange that I have not met her or any of their mutual friends. I haven't seen photos or anything. Whenever I mention her he or I get very shouty. He has said that he has never been out with her, never shagged her or even kissed her. He never mentions her other than during the arguments.

One time, before he had to go abroad with work, I was at his place the few days before his trip, and he disappeared for about 3 hours the day before departure.

Other than during the arguments he's fine. He is aggressive during the arguments. Obviously, I have no right to stop him from being friends with her, and I was wrong to ask but I have no idea what is going on. I know that he can eat out with other people, but when he went with her for a meal on her birthday, he told me before that a few from this group of people were going, Afterwards, he admitted it was just the two of them and that he's arranged it because he felt sorry for her. He hasn't taken me out on my birthday for years.

What is going on and what can I do about it? I usually go NC and it works, but once either of us brings up her name there is a fight, so nothing is resolved. I don't want to confront her, and the only way I would meet her is to turn up unannounced. I know what she looks like from her fb profile.

I have no access to his phone.He phones me several times a day normally and tells me he loves me. He says he wants us to get past this. He's not answering my calls today.
The only thing wrong is caused by the secrecy around this woman and the group of friends. We don't argue about anything other than her.

What do I do? It can't be resolved without me being sure that there is nothing going on. There probably nothing going on but it looks like there is. Who is she and why is she so important to him?

He and I have been together for years. DCs are grown up.

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MMmomDD · 31/07/2019 22:27

How is it that you’ve been together for years but don’t live together and don’t seem to have a close relationship?
You aren’t friends on FB?
You have groups of friends that are totally separate?

What makes you think that you are his primary relationship? He may as well be in a relationship with her and disappear sometimes to see you - from her point of view.
Or maybe he is just living a double life.
Something is off here.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:28

So sorry about the length. In a nutshell:

DP has a female friend. I've not met her or their social group.
He says there is nothing going but it looks suspicious.
Each time I ask if something is going on he gets in a rage.
He's great otherwise.

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category12 · 31/07/2019 22:29

Why would you confront her? He's your problem.

It sounds like he's running you both.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:29

Thanks. It is off.
When he goes on the weekends away, it's usually to somewhere with poor mobile signal. When he goes abroad (work) he phones and texts regularly.

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BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:33

I have been to his house several times and also met his parents. That's about it. In several years. I have met his colleagues and one of his friends. I have spoken to a couple of other friends on the phone but not recently.
We live 100+ miles apart.
He hasn't been to mine for about 2 years.

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practicallyperfectwithprosecco · 31/07/2019 22:33

Speaking from experience I would say he is living a double life and one of you is the OW.

Bookworm4 · 31/07/2019 22:34

It seems obvious that she is his other partner, he’s keeping the two lives separate; you never meeting his friends or her. Why in whatever time you’ve been together has he never taken you to any of these events? How handy he goes away to places with poor signal.
You’ve been very naive, get rid and move on.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:34

The social group are heavy drinkers, I don't drink.

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Bookworm4 · 31/07/2019 22:35

Just read your update; he’s not been to yours in 2 years?? Where do you spend time together? Hotels?

ReturnofSaturn · 31/07/2019 22:37

It sounds like you and him aren't even in a relationship to be honest.

barryfromclareisfit · 31/07/2019 22:37

Yep. Mr Two-wives. I’m sorry.

Gotthetshirt23 · 31/07/2019 22:37

Sounds like my ex .....
At least 3 others I found out about and each of them were apparently just friends . Each was in a relationship "created" by him.
He went mad if questioned as he claimed he'd been cheated on by an ex.
Total cunt .

Marmozet · 31/07/2019 22:37

Why are you even with this guy?

hellodarkness · 31/07/2019 22:38

How long have they been friends?

If they are friends of long standing, and nothing romantic has ever happened between them, then I don't think it was fair of you to ask him to have nothing more to do with her, or to be upset that he liked something that she posted on fb.

However, it is unusual that you haven't met her or any of his friends. Is this because you are in a LDR? As in, opportunities don't naturally arise, or he is working hard to keep you apart?

I also don't understand why you are not his friend on fb. How long have you been together?

On balance, he seems quite unkind and dismissive so for that reason I'd call it a day.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:38

Sorry for the drip feed. It looks so suspicious. I've just tried ringing and he's blocked me.

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matahairyy · 31/07/2019 22:39

Oh ffs bin him off

seeyounexttime · 31/07/2019 22:40

I feel for you OP, it sounds like you're finding this really difficult. It doesn't seem like you're at all secure in the relationship, even if you are LD I was surprised to read you'd been together years. The whole set up sounds shaky, I'd be very wary. How can you not know if this woman's kids are his? How often do you see each other?

Janiiiiiiice · 31/07/2019 22:42

God, just get rid. He's obviously cheating, but even if he wasn't he sounds like an absolute dick.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:46

We don't see each other all that often. I go to his. He doesn't like my house (it's a tip and I am a hoarder). I don't encourge him to come here because of the clutter.
He and her were friends on facebook when I met him. He is still in his hometown but lived with me about 4 years ago.

When I go to his, we usually stay in and watch tele. He's usually drinking and playing with his phone in the evenings. We go out and about locally during the day. It's quite boring. He points out pubs he goes to, his friends' houses and things but that's it. I have not met his sibling.

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carly2803 · 31/07/2019 22:46

Bin him... hes playing you both

PennyPittstop · 31/07/2019 22:47

Ask him to introduce you to his friends including this female friend. If he won't then I think you have your answer Flowers

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:53

I agree it is wrong to ask him to have nothing at all to do with her. Even if he unfriended her he could contact her in other ways. I ask because when I'm at his and his phone makes a noise, which it does a lot, I think is it her. When he leaves his phone lying around and the name comes up, it's just things like Mum or Dad or name of friend. But he could save anyone's number under a different name couldn't he.

I really don't think that there is anything going on. He's a crap liar.

I have suggested he invites me to be his fb friend but he hasn't.
Should I ask invite him?

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tinyvulture · 31/07/2019 22:54

The woman aside, the relationship sounds a bit shit, to be honest. What are you hoping for from it, long term?
You sound really nice, and like you could do much better......

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:55

Brenda hasn't come up.
TBH, I probably wouldn't bother to look at his fb, because what's on there might be totally innocent or it might break my heart.

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seeyounexttime · 31/07/2019 22:56

OP you clearly don't trust him, despite being together for years. He won't change his behaviour to help you trust him and you've already acknowledged you can't tell him to have no contact with this woman. You need to decide if you can learn to trust him or not. If you can't, you shouldn't be with him, you'll never be happy with him if you're always wondering what he's up to behind your back.

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