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What's going on? DP's female friend

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BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 22:17

I regularly post under a different username. Some of my posts would out me. Sorry it is a bit long.

DP has a female friend I have never met. After a string of events that looked a bit iffy he called me by her name when drunk, which caused the first row. Not only have I not met her but I have not met the mutual friends they have. He socialises with this group of friends (weekends away etc) and I know nothing about them, other than some of the men's first names.

He has admitted to taking her out for a meal, he has met her children at least once, and he said he had been to her house a few times.
She is a Facebook friend of his. I'm not and none of his fb info is visible. She is also on his contact list. I have not said I looked at her facebook.

Because he never mentioned her before he called me by her name, and because we had a big argument.I asked him to have nothing to do with her and he said Ok. When I saw a fb notification on his page a few weeks later when he showed me something on facebook I asked him to unfriend her caused a massive fight. He rang her and handed the phone to me. I didn't say anything.

He is a fb friend of hers and has liked something on her page since the big argument. There is a limit to what I can see on her facebook. I have not mentioned that I have looked at her facebook. I don't think he is the children's father.

We don't live together and it's a LDR. The other day, after he had been abroad for over a week and only been back 2 nights, I asked him what he did the previous evening as he hadn't texted or phoned. He said he'd ' had a few drinks and was with Br ' . Br being the first two letters of her name, Brenda (not really but it might be outing). I asked him who he was with and he said no-one, and described what he'd done that evening. He sounded quite angry that I asked and I made a jokey comment and we were ok for a few days. Was he with her or just trying to make me think he was?

After dwelling on this for a few days, I sent him a text saying ' you were with her on Sunday weren't you. ' I got a text back saying ' F off you psychopath '. I rang and he was drunk and raging at me on the phone.

It's strange that I have not met her or any of their mutual friends. I haven't seen photos or anything. Whenever I mention her he or I get very shouty. He has said that he has never been out with her, never shagged her or even kissed her. He never mentions her other than during the arguments.

One time, before he had to go abroad with work, I was at his place the few days before his trip, and he disappeared for about 3 hours the day before departure.

Other than during the arguments he's fine. He is aggressive during the arguments. Obviously, I have no right to stop him from being friends with her, and I was wrong to ask but I have no idea what is going on. I know that he can eat out with other people, but when he went with her for a meal on her birthday, he told me before that a few from this group of people were going, Afterwards, he admitted it was just the two of them and that he's arranged it because he felt sorry for her. He hasn't taken me out on my birthday for years.

What is going on and what can I do about it? I usually go NC and it works, but once either of us brings up her name there is a fight, so nothing is resolved. I don't want to confront her, and the only way I would meet her is to turn up unannounced. I know what she looks like from her fb profile.

I have no access to his phone.He phones me several times a day normally and tells me he loves me. He says he wants us to get past this. He's not answering my calls today.
The only thing wrong is caused by the secrecy around this woman and the group of friends. We don't argue about anything other than her.

What do I do? It can't be resolved without me being sure that there is nothing going on. There probably nothing going on but it looks like there is. Who is she and why is she so important to him?

He and I have been together for years. DCs are grown up.

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funnylittlefloozie · 31/07/2019 23:46

What is 'ED' and 'AN

ED = eating disorder
AN = (presumably) anorexia nervosa

And you mention that you are a hoarder, OP. Does he specialise in women with MH problems?

Dancinghorses36 · 31/07/2019 23:47

Is this even real? If it is, please do yourself some justice and get support, if its from here or in real life, just talk and please ffs get rid, if its not, please dont waste the time of people genuinely want to help.

SmellbowSpaceBowl · 31/07/2019 23:50

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BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 31/07/2019 23:54

Eating disorder and Anorexia nervosa.

Saying I'm obsessed isn't helping. I'm not obsessed, I just can't understand what is going on. The fb search was only a couple of times. Yes I know I shouldn't have.
I looked because there was an occasion when it was very odd for him to go without his partner of x years. He told me I wasn't invited. Given that I had not met the couple who's occasion it was, and that he had no photos of the occasion, I went digging months later when he called me by the wrong name. I didn't find any photos but BrenW was also a fb friend of one of the couple. All from the same home town.
I asked if he had taken someone with him to this occasion, he said no. I asked if Brenda was there and he said no.

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funnylittlefloozie · 31/07/2019 23:56

You are obsessed. Get over it.

StoneColdMedusa · 31/07/2019 23:59

He’s just not that into you. Sorry. He’s also not worth your time. I bet he’s made you out to be a stalker but you’re really his bit on the side, he’s in a relationship with Brenda and when he said you were his girlfriend to her he said it sarcastically and rolled his eyes so she doesn’t ask questions. I think you should invest in counselling for yourself and work on your self esteem and boundaries.

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 01/08/2019 00:07

I am naturally skinny but don't have MH issues other than the clutter, if that is an MH issue for me.
There is no way I would have messaged her anything that cruel. The thought fleetingly crossed my mind.
As I said, AFAIK she has done nothing at all for me to think badly of her. She's probably sweet and kind.

I'm on here because I wondered if Brenda was a cover for something else. A bit like me saying Brenda when her name is something else.
His secret life might be a completely different person or something else.

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BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 01/08/2019 00:13

There is nothing wrong with my boundaries or self-esteem. I could bin him right now, but if there is nothing sinister going on, why throw away an otherwise good relationship because of a bad patch.
The problem is his secrecy, not her.
I don't think you can see people rolling their eyes over the phone.

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StoneColdMedusa · 01/08/2019 00:20

He’s blocked you so I guess you’ll never find out

hadthesnip2 · 01/08/2019 00:31

Jeez OP. So much drama over nothing. Its not a good relationship. You hardly see him, when you do you basically stay in. If you do go out you dont meet his friends. Doesnt matter if they are big drinkers & you are not. You could sit there with a diet coke & get to know them.

Who cares if its Brenda W or Brenda Z. He likes to keep things casual & probably has a few fwb's on the go.

VenusTiger · 01/08/2019 00:33

@brokenheartedandbruised he’s now blocked you (who does that in a relationship of several years!!) because he knows you know iyswim.
I think it’s over.
Move on and try and get some help with your hoarding if you can, and start afresh. Good luck Flowers

VenusTiger · 01/08/2019 00:46

Oh and one last thing, even if Brenda didn’t exist, we’d ALL be telling you that this is NOT a relationship, let alone a healthy one.

RRJR · 01/08/2019 01:00

You do have self esteem issues. If you didn’t, you’d realise you deserve far more than this and get rid!

This isn’t a relationship, OP. You barely see each other, all the effort is put in by you, he lies and becomes aggressive when you bring up things he doesn’t wanna talk about. You aren’t included in his life at all - stop making excuses for that. DP’s friends are big drinkers where as I’m not so I rarely go ‘out’ with them however I’ve met them plenty of times on other occasions even though me and them are polar opposites

You are literally wasting your life on this man. Your relationship will never get any better, it will never develop. Even if Brenda didn’t exist you are a hoarder he is the opposite, how could you ever live together?

Move on, OP. You deserve more

MsDogLady · 01/08/2019 01:07

Why would you want to be with a man who enjoys using another woman to taunt you, calls you by her name, refuses to introduce you to her and his friends, takes her on a birthday dinner date that he initially lied about, gets drunk and aggressive, says ’fk you psychopath,’ is very secretive, and refuses to add you as a FB friend...among other despicable things?

Please get rid of this entitled, abusive, contemptuous, gaslighting bully.

Everafter1 · 01/08/2019 01:08

Get rid. What it's doing to you & how it's making you think isn't healthy. He's getting names confused because he's at it. There's no transparency here.
You're not being treated how you deserve. You're not getting much in return, this is not worth it. He's giving you little to keep you sweet. You've been accustomed to this form of 'relationship' by him. Once you're out & over it you'll see it clearly.

Brain06626 · 01/08/2019 02:13

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SummerSix · 01/08/2019 06:24

No, just no.

Didnt even read half that but what i did read screamed no!!

Back away totally.

AnyFucker · 01/08/2019 06:34

I would hate to see what you consider a "bad" relationship Shock

PaterPower · 01/08/2019 06:35

So I don’t see one single PP doing anything but suggest you ditch this “relationship” (which should be easy as it’s not actually anything of the sort).

It’s a shit-show, OP. Block his number and move on.

MyFlabberIsAghast · 01/08/2019 07:03

This is NOT a good relationship. I have boundary issues but even I can see that. He's secretive, doesn't let you be a part of his life, calls you names...any decent man won't do this.

You say in your OP 'I'm not sure the children are his' whose children are we talking about? Please say you don't have kids with this man?

Honestly I'd let him keep you blocked and walk away. Find someone more local to you but only once you've worked on your own self-esteem to find out why you've put up with this crap.

NabooThatsWho · 01/08/2019 07:09

It’s not a healthy relationship OP. It doesn’t actually sounds like a proper relationship at all. Why do you accept such shit behaviour?

BrokenHeartedAndBruised · 01/08/2019 07:13

Thanks everyone for your advice apart from those telling me i'm obsessed and have MH issues
I have taken on board what you have said.
He can have his secrets.
His number is blocked.

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HillRunner · 01/08/2019 07:32

Good call OP.

This relationship sounds like it was awful, and it wasn't going anywhere. What sort of future did you see with him? It might be a good idea to spend a bit of time single and work out what sort of future you want for yourself before getting involved with another man.

NameChangeNugget · 01/08/2019 08:02

You’ve done the right thing in blocking him OP.

Be strong, he really doesn’t give a shit about you and your obsession, really isn’t worth your energy

thethoughtfox · 01/08/2019 08:06

This is another relationship. Sorry, OP.