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Please help me leave/do something (long, sorry)

98 replies

Hp737 · 03/06/2019 10:34

Please hold my hand. I have no friends left, my family are sick of hearing from me about my relationship, and I feel completely alone. I’ve tried calling women’s aid 4 times and I can never get through.
From the outside my life looks great. It’s all a total lie. I am 2 months from a fairytale wedding costing a fortune, I have a gorgeous dd and a fiancé is seen as the best stepdad and partner, he’s very successful and generous and my and dd’s Lives in some ways are so much easier and more exciting as a result. I was a single mum for 3 years and it was incredibly hard as dd’s Dad left me when I was pregnant, I’ve never had any money from him. I’ve had to graft to earn enough to support us and build my skills but I did it. We were managing, just. Then I met dp and he seemed so nice, fun, involved, he proposed after a year, we’ve been on some great holidays, he buys us presents, our lives were supposed to be so great.
But it’s just a total lie.
I feel physical dread when it’s just me, dp and my dd. He is very moody and his moods are pervasive. Anything can switch them on, but usually dd doing something (the other day it was when orange juice on her face got on his T-shirt) and/or me intervening if he shouts at her or is too harsh in the telling off. I try to stay calm and diffuse situations like that but he takes it as me not backing him up. Tells me I have a problem with anyone else having authority over dd (I don’t- she has been in childcare since 6 months old). Then the sulk and anger will start. He doesn’t care where we are when we do this. It’s happened on foreign holidays, at some of the major London landmarks on days out, sunny picnics, even around my family he will do it. It’s got to the point where I have a physical response to him getting angry, shouting at me or stonewalling me in public. My heart races, I have had a couple of full blown panic attack when out, I beg him to just calm down and apologise but it’s never enough. Yesterday I was on a tube train crying and begging him to just calm down and I caught a girl watching us and I was so embarrassed and ashamed. I look pathetic and I feel pathetic when that happens. It is just almost impossible to function when we are out and he’s sulked through a picnic or a museum or whatever, while I am left to try and keep a happy face on for dd and mitigate how she feels about it, then he will usually at some point threaten to leave me, or to go home/walk off, saying he doesn’t know if he wants to be with me. It panics me so much and he keeps doing this to me in public. It’s like he cannot come down from anger.
I broke down last night when we got home. Begged him to see that I never want to undermine him around dd, that I love them both and wish that he could just relax around her and stop letting the stepfather role be such a sore point. I was devastated and he told me I was crazy, he couldn’t talk to me when I was upset, I need to back him up more with dd.
Dd isn’t the only trigger for him. He doesn’t like me questioning anything really. When I asked him (half jokily, trying to be diplomatic) to bring his dirty laundry from the bathroom he huffed and withheld affection and sex. When I asked him not to go away for a work trip a day early because it was my birthday and we had plans, he was furious. When I was upset about my job being put at risk he found it frustrating that I didn’t just resign immediately. My thoughts, feelings and actions are so frustrating to him and he has no qualms about ruining days, evenings, weeks to make a point. If I ever try and make up the morning after a fight he will jsut respond with nasty texts. He’s threatened to leave me so many times I’ve lost count. He admits this is something he does to “make me listen”.

I don’t know what to do. I feel like there is nowhere left for us to go. For a long time I thought he could relax into us and stop reacting angrily, i thought I could jsut make him see he’s loved and he would love me too. I’ve had all this hope for our future but our entire engagement has been full of panic, sadness and hurt on my part and I cannot bear the thought of days out and holidays anymore. If we all stay in the house and he can go on his computer game and not engage with me and dd, things are relatively calm. If we are apart, at work or on separate trips, things can be ok. Then I’ll think “oh let’s go for a picnic” or something on the weekend and it will quickly fall apart because of something dd or I say or do.

I will have to pay about 6k that I can’t afford if I cancel the wedding now. I know he won’t pay towards it if I leave him even though it was the wedding he wanted and I didn’t. I have dithered about this for too long and now I’m going to lose money and I’m terrified. All my savings will be gone and it will be back to me finding the whole rent and bills if he goes (though he has previously said the one time I asked him to leave, that he won’t leave as “he pays rent too”) and my job is at risk, I’m applying for jobs but have had very little interest in my cv. I’ve massively let dd down and I feel like I’ve been blind for so long trying to make it work with dp. On some tiny level I still think he is a good person underneath, he says he doesn’t mean to be moody or nasty, but he cannot stop. He cannot have a conversation partner to partner. He rolls his eyes, sneers, criticises. My panic is rising even writing this. He’s not physical at all, it’s all the sulking and silence and the snide comments and criticisms and the threats to leave or saying he isn’t sure he wants to marry me.

I know I need to leave but I feel utterly paralysed, ashamed, like I’m screaming inside. I’ve beaten myself up for months thinking I’m difficult, trying to find ways to be different or phrase things or keep him calm, but there’s no way. I am living in a state of panic and sadness and uncertainty under this facade of the perfect life. I don’t know what to do. I feel pathetic that I’m asking a forum of strangers because I have nothing real in my life (except dd).

Please help me. Even if just a handhold.i really need someone to tell me exactly what to do and that this is going to be ok. I’m so ashamed of myself and devastated about what has happened. I loved him so much. So many nice days wasted, so much potential wasted because he can not communicate or listen. I’m not saying I’m perfect but I’ve tried everything and I just live in fear of his moods.

OP posts:
Jakadaal · 04/06/2019 11:01

Have just read your thread OP well done for taking action! He is an emotionally abusive bully.

My BIL is exactly the same with my DSis and they have now been married 31 years. He is financially controlling, has tried to estrange her family (I haven't been to house in over 15 years), he has driven his children away and yet both she and some of the adult children cover for him constantly as 'he is not always like this' Sad he even blamed her for getting pregnant as he only wanted 1 child not the other 3... I suggested he get a vasectomy and you can imagine the reaction.

You sound lovely OP and your dd and you will be so much happier without him and make sure you reclaim your happy places that he has spoiled Thanks

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/06/2019 11:12

I KNOW that something is wrong, have known for months. WHY have I put up with it.

You've put up with it because it has become completely normalised. Death by a thousand cuts.

Do NOT beat yourself up about this. You've not only realised what's happening (which takes a bloody epiphany, trust me, I've been there), you have sought help and you have made a plan. In a day.

You're bloody amazing.

cestlavielife · 04/06/2019 11:16

No it doesn't matter if it s anxiety or anythi ng else.
Don't waste time analysing.
Be free.

He does not enhance your life.
You were swept away but now you realize.

He is ruining your dd life. He really is spoiling her childhood.

You owe him nothing.

Get out safely. Be careful.
Be strong. Be safe.

Then get counselling for you.
Life will be so much better for you and dd.

Hp737 · 04/06/2019 12:31

He is texting me asking for reassurance that I’m “ok”, saying that he feels “so bad about Sunday” and just wants things to be ok. But they aren’t. I don’t even want to reply. In the past i might say: I need this to change, I need you to stop being controlling about dd, I need you to stop having moods when we are out, stop threatening to leave. And he would make all the right noises. But this is WHO HE IS. Isn’t it? It’s not just that he hasnt realised til now that I was upset. He’s seen me hyperventilating with a panic attack or sobbing in public. (Yes I know, I sound pathetic) he’s heard my requests before. It hasn’t worked. He feels justified. In fact if I said now what I wanted and how I felt he would start in a little resentment cycle that would inevitably build into another row!
I just had a really good meeting with a recruiter who thinks I can get a pay rise in my next role. I’m gonna be ok job and money wise. That’s not a reason to stick this out longer.

OP posts:
GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/06/2019 12:48

Just fib and say you're OK; say anything to throw him off the scent re: your plans for Thursday.

Yes, this is who he is. And you can see that now.

Great news about potential pay rise!

paffuto · 04/06/2019 13:08

I've been through this OP Flowers You can do this, stay strong for DD and don't blame yourself one iota. I was miserable for years but quite well off, then left him and was skint for years but blissfully happy. It sounds as though you have good prospects, so hopefully will manage financially. Don't answer his text if you don't want to. You don't have to answer you know.

Hp737 · 04/06/2019 13:11

@paffuto if I don’t answer he will keep texting and building this up so there will be a row when we are both at home tonight. Previously he has accused me of “punishing him” after incidents like this because I can’t just bounce back. I know if I don’t reply then I am in line for him being nasty sooner or later.

OP posts:
paffuto · 04/06/2019 13:11

Although not answering may make him suspicious. Greenfingers is right. Fib and say you're ok, then when you've left you can ignore as much as you like.

paffuto · 04/06/2019 13:12

Sorry x post.

fedup21 · 04/06/2019 13:18

Is it your flat in your name?

I’m confused by your plan -you are leaving on Thursday without telling him and then you going to get him out by the weekend? Why are you leaving first?

Hotterthanahotthing · 04/06/2019 13:34

I had days out/holidays with my ex like that,all of them started well and ended with him in a dark mood/sulking and me minimising it and keeping it light and as fun as possible for DD,including the time when he left us camping taking the van and leaving me trying to get everything into my tiny car.Having said that we had a better time for those last few days.
Keep strong OP,you are heading for a better life.Good luck with the job.

Westiegirl3 · 04/06/2019 13:56

What a dreadful man, hold on to your courage and I wish you lots of luck for the future

Miniloso · 04/06/2019 14:29

Please please OP, start making plans to leave him. Do not marry him - the abuse will get worse.

He will not change, ever. It’ll only get worse and your wonderful, special, innocent daughter will be harmed emotionally for life.

I’ve just left an abusive 2.5 year relationship. It’s hard to begin with. It’s taken me 4 months with therapy to begin to get over it, but IT IS possible.

First of all you must find a way to leave. Your first priority must be your child.

If you can afford it, arrange CBT counselling for the damage to your self esteem. I could not have got through my breakup without it.

Try to imagine life with this man, it will be horrific. Just because he is nice some of the time DOES NOT make his behaviour ok! If his behaviour is shit say, 40% of the time consider this. Would you eat a nice looking meal knowing it contained 40% shit?

You just have to take the first step.

Start reading ASAP, ‘Why does he do that’ by Lindy Bancroft.

There’s no denying you are in for a tough few months, but you will get there.

Keep your gorgeous, innocent, precious child at the forefront of your mind. Do not allow her life to be affected by this man, as her emotional and mental well-being will be if you stay with him.

When I left my abusive ex, it was like I was being given the oxygen mask on a plane in danger. I had to put my mask on first before I could help my child put hers on. OP you must take steps now to start to help yourself to protect your child and yourself. 💐

cestlavielife · 04/06/2019 16:04

He will beg and cry
Be ready to ignore.
Be ready to call 999 if he gets aggressive.

NabooThatsWho · 06/06/2019 17:28

Hope all is ok OP.

Hidingtonothing · 06/06/2019 18:16

Just read your whole thread OP and am hoping everything's gone to plan today. Sending love and strength your way Flowers

Zerrin13 · 07/06/2019 22:32

He sounds like a right humourless nasty waste of air. He's not good enough for your daughter and hes not good enough for you.

SabineUndine · 07/06/2019 22:35

Please update us OP, really hope you're ok.

thegreatcrestednewt · 07/06/2019 22:59

Op, have rtft and am in awe of your self-awareness and guts. Hope it all went well today. You are doing the right thing. Please update us!

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 07/06/2019 23:16

Just RTFT. Hope it all went well OP. I cancelled a wedding within a similar time frame. Embarrassing and caused a couple of months of upset but I have never once regretted it.

abrown113 · 09/06/2019 14:48

Really hope everything went ok for you on Thursday xxx

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 09/06/2019 16:32

Hoping you're ok, whatever you've done. Please update us. My heart goes out to you.

Whattheduckisthis · 09/06/2019 18:39

Hope your ok

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