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Help me make sense of why this turns me off so badly

81 replies

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 17:44

Familiar story, I’ve met a man and it seemed to be going really well but I’m now having doubts.

The background is four dates, really liked him, always contacts when he says he will, good but macho kind of career (all male team etc), is the rugby playing, out with the boys type but seems kind and respectful if a little hung up on looks. No sex yet (for no deep and meaningful reason other than the last two have been quick lunch dates due to convenience as we live in different cities but he works in mine sometimes and has asked on the off chance) but now something has come up.

He asked me out next weekend and I mentioned that I was away on a hen do which started a conversation about strip clubs. I don’t really like them but said nothing as wanted to see what he would say first iyswim.

He then proceeded to tell me a story about how he was best man to his friend and they went abroad with a group of mates to a place in Europe. He described the strip clubs as “mental” and said something like “you can have anything you want” then explained how he arranged the best man a dance with a small person (apologies, not sure on correct terminology) and then when they were offered a live sex show with a variety of beautiful women, he then chose a morbidly obese woman to partner this first lady. He seemed to find the whole thing hilarious and it was almost as if he thought it was more beneficial to the story for him that he chose these women for their “novelty” rather than traditionally beautiful ones?

I’m not particularly sheltered, I have my own feelings about the sex industry and know this stuff goes on. I also have two brothers who tell me all sorts of stories they probably shouldn’t but it’s just really repelled me to think of him making a joke out of these women with his friends when he probably just wanted me to tell him how different and special he was for not choosing overly attractive women like other men might have. Just yuck.

I’ve no idea when this was or if he’d behave any differently now, if it was a one off or frequent behaviour and I’m not in deep enough to ask really. I could just walk and think I’m probably going to before I find out worse tbh but is this just typical of the attitude certain men have towards women.

Am I throwing away a good catch because he’s been a bit childish and distasteful on a stag do as I’m sure many man have or are my feelings the same as everyone else’s would be?

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PeoniesarePink · 02/06/2019 17:47

Repulsive.

And he sees women as objects.

Not a man I'd see a future with.

DrinkSangriaInThePark · 02/06/2019 17:49

He sounds like a knob, I'd steer clear.

Whyrmengreattiltheygottabgreat · 02/06/2019 17:49

Repulsive. I’m sorry, OP, but that he thinks it’s ok to use woman to laugh and jeer at and then thinks that that behaviour is an appropriate story to tell a person he barely knows he is an imbecile and a misogynist.

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 02/06/2019 17:49

He doesn’t respect women at all. I’d not be considering a third date OP.

Hazardtired · 02/06/2019 17:50

Echo the repulsiveness.

I would just find him yuck now.

Bwekfusth · 02/06/2019 17:51

Grim. I'd cut it short pronto.

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 17:52

Thanks all, exactly what I’m thinking. It just didn’t seem to “match” with how he’s been with me at all so far and has really thrown me (granted I barely know him yet) but I can’t think of him in the same way now. I just keep picturing the scene and thinking “the one in the middle is my boyfriend”. Depressing thought right?!

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LittleWing80 · 02/06/2019 17:52

Not judging what anyone does but wouldn’t date a guy who would go to strip club / prostitues or sex workers of any kind. Only my opinion though.

RaptorWhiskers · 02/06/2019 17:52

I’d have noped out the second he mentioned going to a strip club. The fact he treats women as objects and finds it funny to take the mick out of women who aren’t traditionally beautiful - that’s just the icing on the cake.

Divebar · 02/06/2019 17:53

It’s not so much that he made dubious decisions when he was on a stag do ( which he did no doubt) it’s that he told you about it. How thick do you have to be to think any woman is going to want to hear about that? I work with loads of men and if one of them told me that story I would assume 1)he had no romantic interest in me 2) he was too idiotic for me to even consider dating.

Foxmuffin · 02/06/2019 17:54

Sounds like he thought he was being clever whilst actually he was just being really immature and cruel.

Georgeofthejungle · 02/06/2019 18:00

My husband went to a strip club once - when he was 16 so i can let him off. It’s not his cup of tea and to be fair if it was his cup of tea, he wouldn’t be mine.

Some woman don’t mind this stuff and some do. I’m totally the type that does and this guy sounds a bit of a plonker 1, for doing it in the first place and 2, for thinking it’s a good idea to tell you about it!

Could it have been date nerves making him talk too much?

pilates · 02/06/2019 18:05

That would put me off tbh.

disneyspendingmoney · 02/06/2019 18:06

Unless he finished the story with "I regret it now and can see why it's distatestful..." then I don't think you'll get any milage in a respectful interpersonal relationship and that's be being polite.

If he can't see why it's wrong to tell a woman that story I the first place then he's not going to get anything you say to him at all.

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 18:06

He seems very looks focused in general. Stupid things like I’ve got long blonde hair which he likes and references all the time and on our second date we “bumped into” friends of his from work but it seemed awkward and almost set up, like he wanted them to see us together. He’s a very professional man of 45, not a teenager so I assumed I had it wrong but am now thinking I’ve probably found myself one with some women issues. He does it in such a nice, complimentary way, it’s difficult to think outright that he’s a knob at the time but this story definitely rang the bell.

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ukgift2016 · 02/06/2019 18:06

and then when they were offered a live sex show with a variety of beautiful women, he then chose a morbidly obese woman to partner this first lady. He seemed to find the whole thing hilarious

Very mean.

PicsInRed · 02/06/2019 18:08

He's telling you who he is.
Dropping the mask slightly, to see if you'll flinch.

If you dont dump him, he's found a target to abuse. Oh, and he will abuse you.

This is exactly what some scammers do as a tactic - in their case, using bad English and ridiculous premises to weed out the clever and critical thinkers who would waste their time in the search for targets. Abusive men will show you a little more of themselves each time, both to check they aren't wasting their time (i.e. you're a good target) and then to further groom you/break you in.

No more dates with this one. 🗑

HollowTalk · 02/06/2019 18:09

I have a rule on here - if the initial post makes me gasp, swear or want to cry, I say LTB.

LTB.

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 18:11

This board is great for a sanity check! Looks like I’ll be letting this one off the hook... he can be snapped up by some other lucky lady. Hmm

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FoxandFish · 02/06/2019 18:11

Exactely what Divebar posted.

Sagradafamiliar · 02/06/2019 18:12

There's not much to make sense of, you can see him for what he is.

MillicentMartha · 02/06/2019 18:17

Just the fact that he thought you’d be remotely interested in his tawdry goings on would put me right off before even hearing the rest.

Paddingtonthebear · 02/06/2019 18:20

What a thing to say on a date. Confused

Yeah get rid. He sounds a bit grim

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 02/06/2019 18:23

He sounds a right git. I’d be binning.

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 18:26

That’s a point, if this is his best behaviour date chat, can you imagine what sort of delights might later surface?! Confused

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