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Help me make sense of why this turns me off so badly

81 replies

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 17:44

Familiar story, I’ve met a man and it seemed to be going really well but I’m now having doubts.

The background is four dates, really liked him, always contacts when he says he will, good but macho kind of career (all male team etc), is the rugby playing, out with the boys type but seems kind and respectful if a little hung up on looks. No sex yet (for no deep and meaningful reason other than the last two have been quick lunch dates due to convenience as we live in different cities but he works in mine sometimes and has asked on the off chance) but now something has come up.

He asked me out next weekend and I mentioned that I was away on a hen do which started a conversation about strip clubs. I don’t really like them but said nothing as wanted to see what he would say first iyswim.

He then proceeded to tell me a story about how he was best man to his friend and they went abroad with a group of mates to a place in Europe. He described the strip clubs as “mental” and said something like “you can have anything you want” then explained how he arranged the best man a dance with a small person (apologies, not sure on correct terminology) and then when they were offered a live sex show with a variety of beautiful women, he then chose a morbidly obese woman to partner this first lady. He seemed to find the whole thing hilarious and it was almost as if he thought it was more beneficial to the story for him that he chose these women for their “novelty” rather than traditionally beautiful ones?

I’m not particularly sheltered, I have my own feelings about the sex industry and know this stuff goes on. I also have two brothers who tell me all sorts of stories they probably shouldn’t but it’s just really repelled me to think of him making a joke out of these women with his friends when he probably just wanted me to tell him how different and special he was for not choosing overly attractive women like other men might have. Just yuck.

I’ve no idea when this was or if he’d behave any differently now, if it was a one off or frequent behaviour and I’m not in deep enough to ask really. I could just walk and think I’m probably going to before I find out worse tbh but is this just typical of the attitude certain men have towards women.

Am I throwing away a good catch because he’s been a bit childish and distasteful on a stag do as I’m sure many man have or are my feelings the same as everyone else’s would be?

OP posts:
Reallynowdear · 02/06/2019 19:43

God he sounds awful, run.

Spacecadetagain · 02/06/2019 20:28

Run away and don’t look back !

Predestined00 · 02/06/2019 20:33

It's disappointing when you have made the effort after a few dates but that is the whole point ...getting to know someone....lucky escape.

ThenOutCameTheSunshine · 02/06/2019 20:39

Agree he is objectifying women and mocking those less than "beautiful" by using them to prank his friend and laugh on their behalf. Lucky escape OP.

PouncerDarling · 02/06/2019 20:43

I don't care about going to strip clubs, but the rest makes him sound unkind. I would ditch anyone who is unkind

harper30 · 02/06/2019 20:44

Blergh he sounds rank.
I don't really care about men going to strip clubs, I wouldn't be bothered about DP going to one on his stag (although I think a sex show is different to a strip club and a sex show would weird me out I think) and I know everyone has gross stories in their past, myself included. But why would he tell you all of that on like a second date? He's a creepy weirdo underneath the veneer of good guy that he's trying to project.
Saw your updates and am glad it sounds like you won't see him again!

billy1966 · 02/06/2019 20:53

That story turns my stomach.

Couldn't look at a man again who would tell a story like that. Yuk

user1479305498 · 02/06/2019 21:00

I think the looks thing is important too, I think he seems women as’objects’ and you and your nice hair boost his ego , I bet he wouldn’t be half as pleasant in 18 months. My friend has a partner who is 57 who sounds very similar and thinks it’s all’japes’ personally I think he comes over as a bit of a sleaze

justgivemewine · 02/06/2019 21:05

Run a mile.

He doesn’t even have the awareness to consider that this isnt a good thing to admit to you

ErrmWTAF · 02/06/2019 21:09

I'm agree that he was probably showing you off to his colleagues.

So, he objectifies all women. You just happen to be on the desirable/non-freak side of that spectrum. Doesn't mean you're a whole person to him, because you ain't.

Did you dump him yet? How'd he take it? I'd bet cash money he went all Bye Felipe on you. Bingo if he said "I'm a nice guy". Grin

May one enquire where you found this gem? Because I'm on POF and 45 is within my range. >cringe

Recavanometer · 02/06/2019 21:10

Is he an estate agent from Reading?

comfysocks8516 · 02/06/2019 21:10

Gross

Billyjoe10 · 02/06/2019 21:11

Haven't read whole thread but I'm guessing you met him online?

OldWomanSaysThis · 02/06/2019 21:11

Before you dump him, tell him "Good news! I've cut my hair off into a pixie!" and see if you ever hear from him again.

TemporaryPermanent · 02/06/2019 21:11

I'm sure I'm echoing everyone else when I say I wouldn't ignore that 'yuk' feeling.

Fascinating that he really thought that was ok to do and also ok to talk about. But thank goodness you had the sense to give him time to say what he really thought...

JessieTalamasca · 02/06/2019 21:17

Just ghost him. You don't even know him and what you do know is revolting.

lazylinguist · 02/06/2019 21:25

He doesn’t even have the awareness to consider that this isnt a good thing to admit to you

No, I agree with pp. It was a test. He's established his nice guy credentials to reel her in, then this story was his way of checking whether the OP was a 'cool girlfriend' who will tolerate him relaxing into being the misogynist arsehole that is the real him. Ltb.

MaudebeGonne · 02/06/2019 21:25

You owe this guy nothing. But no, realise him back into the wild. He isn't fit for partnership. He is not a nice guy. At all.

Walkamileinmyshoesbeforeujudge · 02/06/2019 21:26

I heard a similar tale off a new date. Except him and his mate used to bet who could take home the fattest lass for sex. Told me a very crude tale about the result . Grim and I dumped him very quickly.
He has let you peep in the window of the real him ime op.

Dadaist · 02/06/2019 21:40

Just yuck! Sorry OP.

MsDogLady · 02/06/2019 21:42

...you can have anything you want...

Not only does he view women as things that he can have, he considers those two human beings as freaks to be laughed at. How insulting and appalling that he thought you would laugh, too.

cptartapp · 02/06/2019 21:46

And this is what he tells you on only date four? I dread to think how much worse is to come.
Get rid.

AnyFucker · 02/06/2019 21:50

Just walk

Does he not make you feel physically ill ?

JessieTalamasca · 02/06/2019 21:51

I agree, AF. I'd have got up and left the second he told me that. Get some standards, this guy is the boak. He's single because he's a raging misogynist user.

TurboTeddy · 02/06/2019 22:38

Wow he shared that anecdote after 4 dates and seemed to think it showed him in a good light and you would be impressed. That would tell me all I needed to know and there wouldn't be a fifth date.

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