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Help me make sense of why this turns me off so badly

81 replies

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 17:44

Familiar story, I’ve met a man and it seemed to be going really well but I’m now having doubts.

The background is four dates, really liked him, always contacts when he says he will, good but macho kind of career (all male team etc), is the rugby playing, out with the boys type but seems kind and respectful if a little hung up on looks. No sex yet (for no deep and meaningful reason other than the last two have been quick lunch dates due to convenience as we live in different cities but he works in mine sometimes and has asked on the off chance) but now something has come up.

He asked me out next weekend and I mentioned that I was away on a hen do which started a conversation about strip clubs. I don’t really like them but said nothing as wanted to see what he would say first iyswim.

He then proceeded to tell me a story about how he was best man to his friend and they went abroad with a group of mates to a place in Europe. He described the strip clubs as “mental” and said something like “you can have anything you want” then explained how he arranged the best man a dance with a small person (apologies, not sure on correct terminology) and then when they were offered a live sex show with a variety of beautiful women, he then chose a morbidly obese woman to partner this first lady. He seemed to find the whole thing hilarious and it was almost as if he thought it was more beneficial to the story for him that he chose these women for their “novelty” rather than traditionally beautiful ones?

I’m not particularly sheltered, I have my own feelings about the sex industry and know this stuff goes on. I also have two brothers who tell me all sorts of stories they probably shouldn’t but it’s just really repelled me to think of him making a joke out of these women with his friends when he probably just wanted me to tell him how different and special he was for not choosing overly attractive women like other men might have. Just yuck.

I’ve no idea when this was or if he’d behave any differently now, if it was a one off or frequent behaviour and I’m not in deep enough to ask really. I could just walk and think I’m probably going to before I find out worse tbh but is this just typical of the attitude certain men have towards women.

Am I throwing away a good catch because he’s been a bit childish and distasteful on a stag do as I’m sure many man have or are my feelings the same as everyone else’s would be?

OP posts:
LittleWing80 · 02/06/2019 18:27

Also if you did end up dating him / more involved, he does sound like the type of guys would still go to strip clubs, ‘have a laugh’ with his mates and would see nothing wrong with ending up having drunken sex.

LittleWing80 · 02/06/2019 18:28

@Ronnie27 and they call it the honeymoon period 😂😂

BertieBotts · 02/06/2019 18:32

Unlike some other posters I wouldn't expect him to keep quiet about this for my benefit or find it off putting that he said it to me, but like you I'd be put off by the fact he did it and finds it an amusing anecdote tbh.

I don't want to have things shielded from me "because I'm a woman" but I also wouldn't be comfortable with someone who wants to go to strip clubs etc.

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 18:32

That’s true, he obviously sees it as acceptable to tell me about so not a giant reach to think he might not see it as a problem when in a relationship with me? Argh, I was so impressed when I first met him too. At least I know early and am just a bit disappointed rather than hurt.

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SpanishTiles · 02/06/2019 18:35

Imagine a couple of years down the line and you're planning the wedding and hes planning his stag to Talinn 🤮🤮🤮

beeyourself · 02/06/2019 18:50

I remember two occasions where a male colleague (then later a male work client) were telling a mixed group I was in about how they were bartering with women in strip clubs in the red light area.

I lost all respect for them right there and then. In fact the way they told the story made my skin crawl.

I can imagine feeling the same as you OP.

0ccamsRazor · 02/06/2019 18:57

W⚓ is he

Ronnie27 · 02/06/2019 19:01

beeyourself that’s exactly it. He was talking quite openly as if these women were something different and it was all jolly capers but I’m assuming he has a mother or friend or sister he absolutely wouldn’t want to see in that woman’s place. It was just a bit disturbing how normal and funny he seemed to find it. I’ve no idea why I didn’t say anything at the time, I just sat there and tried to arrange my face.

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Ninkaninus · 02/06/2019 19:04

A good catch??

Sorry, there absolutely no way a man like that is a good catch. So no, that’s not what you’re throwing away.

The fact that you even needed to ask this question shows that you’re not nearly as picky as you ought to be. I couldn’t believe it when you said he’s in his forties. Ugh.

ControversialFerret · 02/06/2019 19:05

Urghh. Just, yuk.

He sounds horrible. I couldn't imagine being intimate with someone knowing that.

WineGummyBear · 02/06/2019 19:09

He's telling you he is capable of treating women very very badly for his own amusement.

I agree with the poster above who said his likely motivation for telling this story is to test your boundaries.

Are you cool with him treating women very very badly to entertain himself and his friends?

Yabbers · 02/06/2019 19:10

I’m really relaxed about strip clubs. Back when we first got together, OH ended up at them a couple of times. He doesn’t get involved with any of it (his mates at the time made fun of him for sitting chatting to one of the lasses at the bar - turns out she was at uni with him) but it’s not something I ever bothered about.

I would walk away from this guy though. That’s just not an acceptable way to treat women.

outreach29 · 02/06/2019 19:13

he is an imbecile and a misogynist.

^^
what they said.

JessieTalamasca · 02/06/2019 19:15

YUK! The fact that you are hesitating to bin him speaks volumes. Please get rid and don't date again until you have some more boundaries in place. He's vile.

Bezalelle · 02/06/2019 19:16

Vile man.

Ffsnosexallowed · 02/06/2019 19:18

What an asshole. You honestly had to come on here and ask??

Upzadaizy · 02/06/2019 19:20

It’s good you’ve found out about his REAL feelings about women before you became too committed to him.

Lucky escape, OP

Fedoratheexploreer · 02/06/2019 19:22

I don’t think I could even look at him again. Disgusting.

NunoGoncalves · 02/06/2019 19:22

I don't really think it's possible for a person to treat women like that but at the same time be "perfect" or a "good catch" in every other way. So it's not like you need to worry that you'll be breaking up with somebody over this one thing, because there's no way that kind of character isn't manifested in other negative and unattractive ways too. You just haven't seen them yet because you hardly know him.

JessieTalamasca · 02/06/2019 19:25

I can't imagine even contemplating having sex with such a specimen. He'll be one of those porn-addicted wankers. Walking case of syphilis. No wonder he's single.

CodenameVillanelle · 02/06/2019 19:26

He's a straight up misogynist and ableist to boot. I could never spend time with someone who could dehumanise women in that way and exploit a woman's disability for laughs. Vile.

Hannam82 · 02/06/2019 19:26

If he did that and found it "childish and distastefull" afterwards, he wouldn't tell that to you - when you hardly know eachother...

He is likely to tell this horrible story to your friends and your brothers at the first possible chance....

I rather put a fork in my eye to date someone who thinks this story is somewhat funny?

Run my friend... run fast !!!

Moralitym1n1 · 02/06/2019 19:27

So he thinks it's great fun to go into strip clubs and fix up/pay for a 'freak show' of dwarf women and morbidly obese women for he and his friends' entertainment and titillation; and great fun to tell you about it.

Be very thankful he's too stupid to keep this sort of shot to himself.

Just uuuuggh - uuugh to the whole thing, and him.

45 years old too.

Namechangeishard · 02/06/2019 19:34

He’s a very professional man of 45

Who is single so clearly many women before you have decided he isn’t a ‘good catch’ too.

I agree that it’s a good job he was idiot enough to share that disgusting event with you. At least now you can run far away. Just Ewwww!
How on earth did you react when he actually told you?

Moralitym1n1 · 02/06/2019 19:39

Saddest thing is there are probably plenty of other men who've done stuff like this, but they keep their mouths shout so their partners/potential partners don't know.

You do though.