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Please help (TW Rape, rape threats, suicide and suicide ideation)

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75Renarde · 24/05/2019 17:08

I'm at rock bottom and I don't know where to turn.

This has the potential to be over wordy. I'll try to keep it succinct.

My ex H who I share DD and DS with is an emotionally cold and very manipulative man. Afyer years of this, in 2014 I finally left him after a good six or so times. We were together 18 years. Both of us professionals in the same field, I was a A Level Physics teacher. We shared contact 50/50 but predictably, it was still me doing the lion's share.

2018 the Absolute came through. Kids wanted to change contact but not amount if time. They were getting older and I respected that. I was struggling, with very little support. I suggested a new contact schedule. He proposed one that meant No overnights weekdays at mine. But yet I was still expected to do pickups tea etc. There were other big things happening. I needed time to consider which he agreed to. Imagine my surprise when I picked the kids up next day and they thought it was a done deal.

It was like a bolt of lightning and suddenly all the DV and abuse came back. I realised he was using the kids to get to me. When I left him, he threatened to rape me to teach me a lesson, throttled me against a wall and once in the middle of a physical argument, he punched me in the eye and the police were called. I did not press charges. All I could think of were my children.

It all came flooding back and in March '18, I took an overdose. The final straw was tgat he was not answering messages about when I would see the kids.

Miraculously, I was OK but I was in deep shock. We agreed to mediation. Two days later he filed the Court for residency. Then my world really did fall apart.

I was accused of negligence, I had no opportunity to defend myself plus I was still very mentally unwell. I jumped through every, controlling hoop the ex wanted so I could see my children. The Court rumbled on. Still, I was confident it would be over by Xmas and I'd have the kids for boxing day. Bit I was dealing with lack of money and utterly unable mentally to teach. I lost my home.

In the midst of all this my DB sustained a major head trauma and last summer F admitted to affairs. This in their Golden Anniversary year. F was also very seriously ill and not expected to live. He certainly looked like he was about to go. He didnt.

I got myself a new place, stabilised money. Eventually got myself signed of by DWP. Worse was to come. No kids for boxing day, a bitter blow. I spent Xmas alone.

Even worse. Ex announces tgat he's taking the kids 6 hours away which would necessitate another move for me. I was devestated. Around Xmas, DS started to say ex had started to verbally abuse him and he didn't feel loved by him or his partner.

Again, around that time the S7 was published by CAFCASS. Bias? Just a bit. Ex makes a serious allehation that coyld put me in jail for contempt and STILL i habent been able to clear my good name.

As I read it a very repressed memory came back. Years before my ex raped me. I found him having sex with me one Sat night. I was asleep. I.pushed him off with a NO. He stopped. He then convinced me it was my fault and I begged his forgiveness. It was never mentioned again.

Unbelivably, it gets even worse. On my DS birthday, ex informs me that I cannot have access to the children as he believes I am going to be beaten in the streets and he doesn't want the kids to witness that. I am now required to get SS to write a letter saying I am at no risk. SS do not write the letter due to pressures of work despite promising me they would. Then the alienation begins. Jectells the kids that I'm not safe and that if he allows contact, they will be taken into care. What IS shocking is that ex beat DB up a few years ago in front if my parents AND the kids. Gradually all contact stops, more or less. The kids are now scared of speaking to me.

I ask for a meeting at his with kids. It ends badly as they are frightened they will be taken into care. Since then, I have heard very little. I know nothing about what's going on. The meeting was secretly recorded and that goes into the ex's position statement.

After a few weeks if thus, I break again and attempt suicide. I was very close to being sectioned. Again, I was OK.

I cannot describe the pain of being parted from my children. Not knowing what's happening. I message them telling them how I much I love them but I rarely get anything back.

And then, in a FINAL sickening twist, his latest missive to the court proposes that EXACT SAME CONTACT ARRANGEMENTS that would be been proposed (and I wouldve accepted on a temp basis) during the proposed mediation a year ago.

Over a year if extreme psyclogical torment and distress. The loss of my home, career, finances. My sanity, my children. All of it a waste of time. I verge from incandescent rage to breaking down. Oh and he's refusing to give me my part if the pension settlement and tgat I have to, get this, take him back to court. He has hurt the children, robbed us three of a family life for a year based on NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.

I have a DP and he's been a brick. We where meant to be going away last weekend. Our first time away. I was so looking forward to it as he's brilliant fun, very intelligent and very good company.

Not a few miles away from home, his cluch packs in. Gutted.

I don't know what I need right now. Practical advice but also emotional support. I don't want to die, I want my beloved children back. I just want the pain to end.

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75Renarde · 24/05/2019 17:16

Please excuse the outrageous SPs (and me a writer too.)

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WineGummyBear · 24/05/2019 17:20

OP I am so so sorry you have been through all of this.

You are being so so strong.

I have no advice only massive sympathy. I'm pleased you have a supportive partner.

I hope things improve soon. You deserve so much better than this.

Flowers
75Renarde · 24/05/2019 17:22

Thank you @wine

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MrPipsGran · 24/05/2019 17:24

Oh OP, I am so very sorry that this has happened to you. I have no advice but am sure that someone will be along very soon who can help. All I can send you are big hugs.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 17:43

Thankyou @Pips

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BringMeAGinandTonic · 24/05/2019 17:44

No advice here either unfortunately (wish I did) but you have been through a lot. You're quite strong to have endured all of that.

Hugs and Flowers. Others should chime in soon with something helpful for you. Lots of MN posters are good like that.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 17:58

Bombproof @gin. Sometimes I wonder if the Gods kept me alive because there is something I need to do or wether they are tormenting me. [I have a very black sense of humour]

It's not just the abuse from ex, there have been other men too. I had two marriage proposals in 18 months. The catalyst for my leaving if the ex was just a stunning realusation that i was looking after three children. The other important aspect is that in '14, I lost about 8 stone on weight which I've largely kept off. Was a 22/24 now I'm a 12/14. I regained my confidence. Finally realised what a lazy, distant arse he was and after one incident too many, I knew it was over. That seems such a long time ago now.

After we split, it also became obvious how much he had smeared me to family, friends, childminders. Notwithstanding his repeated efforts to contact partners, usually behind my back.

Just because the formal relationship ended, he still had it in his head that I belonged to him. Didn't matter he had someone new. Indeed the pair if them stalked me for years. Despite me insisting they refrain.

The partner does it under the guise of me being a 'brilliant writer'. Nah, she is ugly inside and I suspect tremendously jealous of me. You see, I ended up becoming a BDSM and sex educator, I ran events, I became a very well known figure in the community. Too well known actually.

I wrote about abuse mostly but sometimes erotica. I paid a VERY heavy price for being an empowered female. VERY.

The stories I could tell...

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75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:03

And yes, both him and his partner are narcs. The only tiny crumb of comfort is that narcs do not couple well together. The relationship will be utterly fraught as they each are desperately trying to suck fuel from each other.

The fuel will be limited at best. I suspect that their relationship will not be long for this world. Either or both will be attempting to make new couplings. (If they havmt already) Both will attempt to find empaths. The female will struggle but ex has a better chance.

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Nyctophilia · 24/05/2019 18:16

What kind of events did you run?

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:23

I'm.not sure why that's relevant @Nyctophilia

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Haffiana · 24/05/2019 18:31

Do you have professional help? I mean, you have attempted suicide twice and you are saying that you don't want to die. Are you feeling suicidal again?

Are you receiving professional help? Please, please contact them or your doctor.

bibliomania · 24/05/2019 18:32

So if I'm understanding right, your exH is agreeing in court documents that you can have access to your dcs again, is that right? This is a good outcome. You need to find a way to deal with all these powerful negative emotions so you can stop them getting in the way of rebuilding the relationship with your dcs. You need to make your time with your dcs drama-free - don't scare them.

I'm not trying to minimise the pain you are in, but it's your responsibility to address that now so you can have calm and loving interactions with your dcs. That's what matters now.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:44

@biblomania

How dare you. I have do everything in my power to shield my two children from what my ex did to me over 18 years of the formal relationship and five years nearly of being a single mum.

No, it is NOT a good outcome. It is yet more evidence of the way he's controlling me.

I would warrant he's extremely worried about the damage to his facade.

I am extremely cross you intimate that I would subject my innocent chikdren to he says, she says when that is precisely what my ex has done.

RTFT

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75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:45

The police are involved and have been since Nov last year. Way before all contact was removed.

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75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:46

@Haffiana

Thankyou for your concern. I'm under the care of a psychiatrist and the local crisis team.

I'm not suicidal at present.

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ChariotsofFish · 24/05/2019 18:53

I’m not sure why you’re so outraged at what Biblio said. It’s reasonable. You mention that a recording of a meeting was used against you. That suggests that you haven’t ensured there’s a calm environment for your children.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 18:57

What??? Did you miss the rape and DV parts? Do you understand how the courts are used to abuse women primarily?

I've done NOTHING wrong. My time as a single mum was beautiful. I ran a calm and emotionally intelligent household.

He removed my children on spurious grounds. He has no reason.

I hope it never happens to you

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Nesssie · 24/05/2019 18:58

75Renarde He has offered you contact with your children. That is a big step forward. Yes, he has put you through years of hell but you need to make this a new day and focus on building your relationship with you children.
How old are they?
If you can offer them drama free time, nice days out, stable life etc then they will realise that their Dad is not a good person. It sounds like your son is already seeing that with the EA.
As hard as it is, don’t bad mouth him to them, let them see his true colours their self.

What are the terms of the new contact arrangement he has offered?

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 19:07

I have never EVER bad mouthed him to them. That would be a gross dereliction of my duty as parent.

That doesn't mean to say that I didnt hear from the kids that they were running me down. I would listen with interest and ignore but just file it away.

BTW Although it seems ATM that he's playing ball, he isn't. I grew up with this man. We met during our undergrad course. Physics. There is nothing to dtop him pulling this stunt again. And again and again. What kind of life is that for my children and I?

You are right though. DS sees him for what he is. My two are DD 12 and DS 10.

Already the partner took my DD shopping for her first bra. She must be close, if not has happened, to her first period. I wanted to be there for her. To support her.

I see my DD in so many girls. I wear su glasses because I break down frequently, usually in supermarkets. I now avoid certain times of day.

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Nesssie · 24/05/2019 19:13

At that age, the courts should take Ito account what they want. So by keeping a good steady relationship with them you may be able to get them to see that living with you is best.

However, and this is going to sound harsh, to the courts you have attempted suicide twice and your exH hasn’t. Now they don’t know about the rapes and DV and EA so can’t take that into consideration which i agree is so so unfair but there is nothing that can be done about that right now.

What you need to do now is convict SS and the court that that is all behind you. Evidence of a stable life, a house, a partner, counselling etc is all going to do that.
If you can prove you can provide for your children, then he cant just take them away again.

Agree to the 50/50 contact or whatever he is offering, ignore him as best as possible and start to rebuild your relationship with your children.

Do you have legal aid? I would suggest talking to a family law expert to find out what the stages are to get regular court ordered contact

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 19:22

THIS is monumentally unfair and unjust. I am my own worst enemy. The terms of the divorce where hugely disadvantageous to me. I know THIS seems bizarre but at that point I was busy being a single mum and a teacher and lecturer. I was providing for my children. I had a house, a car, a good job.

If the courts cannot see that by removing all contact with the children, in itself, defying the court ordered access, then I give up.

I don't want this man in my life. I will go further and argue that a man who is emotionally, psyclogically, sexually, financially abuse to his spouse is not a fit father.

Or have we disappeared into an alternate universe?

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ChariotsofFish · 24/05/2019 19:24

No, I didn’t miss those bits. Your ex sounds utterly terrible. You can’t control what he is now or what he’s done in the past, but you can react as calmly as possible in the present for the sake of your children. That and working on your own mental health are the best things you can do for all of you.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 19:28

Or how about seeking justice as well?

All I did was leave him. That's all.

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Nesssie · 24/05/2019 19:29

It’s shit. It’s unfair. The courts don’t know the real truth and extent of this man. It happens time and time again on MN when the court orders contact with shit fathers.
What you can do is try and hold on and build the best relationship with them possible so when they are old enough to chose, they chose you.
If he’s as vile as you say, that won’t take long.

Hard as it seems, the best thing you can do is work on yourself and then get yourself a lawyer. Agree to whatever is necessary to start contact again.

What contact is he offering you currently?

You’ve been through some tough shit and have made a massive effort to turn your life around, you are doing fantastic. Don’t give up.

75Renarde · 24/05/2019 19:30

@Chariot so he can do it again? Carry on abusing the children and I? That's a great wheeze. He could keep this one up for a decade

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