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How do I make him listen and leave

101 replies

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 11:16

Hey everyone I'm new on here.
I have been in a relationship for 4 years and have 2 children with him.
Last Xmas we had an argument as usual and he left, and spent 3 weeks at his family's house getting drunk and coked up and texting me abuse as always.
Enough was enough for me. I told him it was over and next.came the accusations as to I must be sleeping with someone else etc.and the guilt tripping how he would lose his job if I didn't let him back.he bullied his way back.
Silly me thought he won't listen to words that it's over so I'll show him actions.
Now 4 months down the line and he's still here.i don't go near him. We always argue. I don't love him I've told him this repeatedly.
I'm not sure if he stays out of spite or because he has nowhere really to go. He fell out with his family after Xmas. Yet another long story after his sister told me what he had been up to there behind my back. Of course he denied it and called her a liar. More than one person has told me things about him yet he always says they're lying.
Anyway.. It's over 100% in my eyes.
But I can't make him listen! He just carries on as though I've not said it! It's not normal
And I feel so depressed and trapped. I daydream about how much better my life will be with him gone. But every time I get my hopes up that he's listened,they get dashed.
I don't know what to do anymore. Making me feel as though I just have to live this way. Why wont he just leave? He's a grown man,he works,he can find his own place and go! So why is he just not listening?
I'd appreciate any advice at all I'm desperate....

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Closetbeanmuncher · 30/04/2019 21:24

You're going to have to bite the bullet and go through the bad stuff first.

Let the police deal with him. Is there anywhere you can send the children for a few days while the majority of the backlash happens? You also need to be ready to have the locks changed as soon as he's removed.

Closetbeanmuncher · 30/04/2019 21:26

He's not going to leave without this certainly so the MO is damage limitation.

Lllot5 · 30/04/2019 21:29

Sounds like he’s not going to go quietly though OP. I think that’s what pp are trying to say.

Deep breath and do it. Your children will be better off.

ImNotNigel · 30/04/2019 22:02

As much as I hate him I don't wanna see him on the streets. I wouldn't with anyone

He will not end up on the streets, I can promise you that. I work with homeless people and I assure you that I have never seen someone with a well paid job, friends, family and money sleeping on the streets.

Your priority needs to be the safety and welfare of your children and yourself.

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 22:07

I know you're all right. Guess I was hoping for a miracle lol.
Guess I'm gonna have to pack his things, tell him to leave, then if he refuses he can listen to me call the police. That may be enough to make him go before they arrive as he's not going to want to end up in jail again!
My only concern is because he now has nowhere to go, he will keep coming back to my house. Where as in the past he went to families houses which were miles away so he couldn't just turn up here.
He's not speaking to them anymore because basically they grassed him up to me about him messaging and kissing another girl and throwing his drunken ass at any girl he could. He denies it all of course. But either way he disowned them over it.

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Lozzerbmc · 30/04/2019 22:07

Can the DCs go to a relative for a few days so you can ‘deal’ with him and move him out? Or what if you ask to move council house and make a fresh start without him? (Thats a big upheaval i know)

I hope you get him out

BoneyBackJefferson · 30/04/2019 22:12

MysticalMoon

Please get legal advice with regard to him leaving the house, because just kicking him out/changing the locks etc. could legally cause you more trouble than its worth.

Unfortunately as this is his home and residence you have to follow legal proceedings to get him removed.

BumbleBeee69 · 30/04/2019 22:12

You have made more excuses for him to Stay ... than reasons to make him Leave OP.. Hmm

VaselineHero · 30/04/2019 22:19

This isn't going to change until you decide to change it and follow through. You know what you have to do but the fear of any repercussions is keeping you stuck. What can you do to help reduce this fear? Is there anyone who can come and stay for a bit?

The thing is, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes. There will always be a reason not to act and he knows how to manipulate you into inaction.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 30/04/2019 22:28

You need to get tough for your kids

Ask him to leave, don’t pack, just say it once. If he refuses go out and away from him, even just say your nipping to the shop then call the police!

Where he goes is not your problem
Change the locks on the house
If he turns up again - phone the police
If he rings - phone the police
If he texts - phone the police
If he follows you - go to the police station
If he kicks off - ring the police

Your dc are already in the middle if it. If they whiteness him kicking off in front of the police, then so be it, it’s better that happens than they stay living with someone who abuses their mother.

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 22:39

I know you are all right. I just hate being an ass to anyone

I'm definitely not moving house though I spent years doing that to get away from the last one,uprooting my kids and moving away from family. I'm not doing that again no matter how much he spits his dummy out.
How I saw it was it's over I don't love him. I have told him this,I just didn't wanna be an asshole about it as that's just not in my nature.
But I know you're all right. I can't stay stuck in limbo just because he won't accept that. It's not going to change and I've wasted enough of mine and my kids lives being unhappy or stressed or angry.
I've had 2 little boys at my age,which I'm lucky to have as I'm 42 now. I want to make the most of them. I don't wanna miss them growing up because I'm too stressed or wrapped up in arguments with their dad.
Times flew already since they were born.
And looking back he's been a complete c**t to me over the years not have a shit about me or how I've felt or how he's hurt me,so I guess it will be a taste of his own. He shits on everyone and always gets away with it.
It really is about time he grew up and stood on his own 2 feet. He is younger than me,he's 30, but never lived alone etc,always ran back to mommy and she's always made excuses for his behaviour

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BornInGlasgow · 30/04/2019 22:40

Wait until he's at work, pack up his shit in the front garden, change locks, job done?

Ask the police to be there with you when he's due home?

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 22:44

I have thought about that but he's on nights this week and don't leave till 9pm and is back around 6am.

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category12 · 30/04/2019 22:46

It doesn't make you an ass to end a relationship and make him leave, it makes you an adult. Letting things drag on like this is bad for everyone, even him.

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 23:18

Yes that's true. Makes me the only grown up in the relationship.
I don't see the point keep going round in circles. It doesn't work and that's that. He's done too much to forgive and it's better all round that we split

Don't get why he can't see that

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Dullardmullard · 30/04/2019 23:21

Have you posted before?

This sounds real familiar. You’ve already thrown him out he creeps back repeatedly

Time for you to get angry and put his stuff outside and text him to collect and go.

If he does ANYTHING phone police and phone them.

QueenBeex · 30/04/2019 23:26

You said I'm definitely not moving house though I spent years doing that to get away from the last one,uprooting my kids and moving away

Then you said I've had 2 little boys at my age,which I'm lucky to have as I'm 42 now. I want to make the most of them. I don't wanna miss them growing up because I'm too stressed or wrapped up in arguments with their dad

As you said previously your kids are very young, they witnessed your relationship with your abusive ex that's why you don't want them to witness your current partner leave because they've already witnessed it all before.

But then you say this current partner is the kids dad

Something isn't correct here Confused

QueenBeex · 30/04/2019 23:30

BoneyBackJefferson This isn't his home though, only OPs name is on the council tenancy

BumbleBeee69
You have made more excuses for him to Stay ... than reasons to make him Leave

^^^ yup

QueenBeex · 30/04/2019 23:34

it's better all round that we split don't get why he can't see that

Probably because you say on here that it's better if you split, but then you continue living with him and in his eyes continuing to act like a family still

MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 23:50

Queenbeex
I have 5 kids.
3 grown up that were from the relationship with the violent ex 20 years ago.
And 2 young kids from this relation ship

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MysticalMoon · 30/04/2019 23:52

The 3 older children witnessed all that shit with their dad when they were young
Which is why I don't also want my 2 younger children to witness the same shit with their dad.

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MysticalMoon · 01/05/2019 00:10

And if acting like a family consists if me basically pretending he don't exist as best I can and barely speaking and me carrying on as though I'm single,then he's got a messed up idea of what a family is.
I've made it clear words and actions.
Just didn't fancy the drama of the aftermath if I kick his ass out and call police that don't mean I wont do it if I have to.
I'm reluctant because as I said my former ex from 20 years ago,I repeatedly rang police,who turned him out, arrested him,bailed him,for him to return within days to do the same shit.all with my other kids in the house.
He even broke in once when I was out, and waited for me.and gave me a kicking when I got home.
I suffered 5 years of physical abuse from him and a further 2 years of harassment after I left.
That was worse as there was violence. He beat me when I was 8 months pregnant with his youngest child at one point.i was terrified of leaving as he always said he would kill me and my kids if I left. But I left in the end I couldn't take anymore my oldest child was 4 years old and can still remember things.
Just didn't want to have to face similar again.
Maybe I haven't been clear, but this partner now, is an asshole. But I give as good as I get when he's here.
But when I kick him out,and he drinks,he's a different person. Suddenly grows some balls and sends me abuse and threats, comes to my house and kicks off,and I wouldn't put it past him laying his hands on me when he drinks.

He doesn't drink when he's here and we r together as I don't tolerate it.
It's all worse when he's gone. Then I am scared of him.

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HappyLife21 · 01/05/2019 00:22

I’m not sure what hope you were hoping for? There really is no easy way, none of us here is a Cunt Whisperer, able to get twats like him to leave easy. The only thing to do is pack his bags, change the locks and DONT LET HIM BACK IN.

MysticalMoon · 01/05/2019 00:31

Ha ha cunt whispered. That made me laugh

If only hey.
Guess all I wanted was a little support from people who had a none biased point of view and a kick up the ass to find some balls to follow through that's all.

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ReanimatedSGB · 01/05/2019 00:34

Remember he has no legal right to stay in your home if the tenancy is in your name. You can have him forcibly removed, and court orders to prevent him from returning.
I understand that you're scared because of having experienced abuse in the past, so it might help to get on to Women's Aid who will support you while you go through the processes to get this useless shitbag out of your home.

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