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sb11adz · 25/03/2019 19:53

I just need a little clarification I suppose. Fully expecting to get some home truths here or to be told I am being unreasonable for some of this but here I go.

I have been with my DP 4 years on and off. The first year of the relationship was pretty rocky and I should have ended it there. He would constantly pick at me. Everything I said or did was wrong. Every argument was my fault. All of my personality traits such as having quite bad social anxiety and memory problems made me weird or stupid in his eyes. Eventually he realised how damaging this behaviour was and things lessened quite a lot.

However to this day there are still things that happen that in the back of my mind I know should not happen in a normal loving relationship. We are saving for a house (both in late 20s but living with parents currently) and due to him finding out last year that I was in more debt than he knew about, he constantly asks to check my bank account and savings to make sure I am sticking to our plan. When he did find out about the debt (not much, just a few more hundred on my credit card than he expected) the stress of the whole blow up hospitalised me. I am type one diabetic and struggled to eat for a week which made me very ill.

He also comments on my weight a lot and tells me to lose weight often. I am size 14-16 and weigh around 12.5st so not that huge. Just bigger than when he met me.

Up until the weekend just gone we had been in quite a good place I guess and had been getting on well. Now, for context I have a condition called hyperhydrosis which causes overactive sweat glands and can be a very embarrassing and uncomfortable condition for me. No grown woman wants to be sweating her arse off at the smallest of things. I am on medication for it but he has been bugging me for ages to get on a higher dosage as he sometimes comments that I smell. Which is a huge confidence knocker for me. I haven't booked an appointment with my specialist yet simply because I haven't had the time. I work long hours and shifts. We went to an event in London on Saturday night and for the last couple of hours he was very off with me and hardly spoke which ruined the night for me. On the way home I asked him what was up and he said that I smelled for most of the night and that I had ruined the night completely because of my inability and laziness to book an appointment with my specialist. If he had told me this earlier on in the night I could have rectified it but instead let me sitting there for ages smelling. I can never smell it that much but apparently he can. I felt humiliated.

I don't know what I'm asking here. I guess I just needed to vent a little. I will take on board any criticism or advice you have.

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LaughingCow99 · 27/03/2019 04:22

Do you really live him or are you afraid because of your low self esteem that you won't meet anyone else.

This will not end well for you. He us abusive. Buy with him and you will regret it. He is not a good man and isn't like to soften s he gets older.

Please get some counselling to help you see what everyone else on here does

Dontcarewhatimdoing · 27/03/2019 14:14

The thing is, is being lonely really worse than feeling how you do now? There is so much future out there for you to grab, if you can just break free.

Closetbeanmuncher · 27/03/2019 19:45

The more I read of this thread the worse it gets. Please don't trap yourself by buying a house with this man.

As far as the sweating goes are you sure this isn't down to the anxiety of being with him??

He will grind you down to nothing if you stay with him and it will be a hundred times worse living with him as you will be isolated.

Laundry additives are really good (like Dettol) and use a Japanese washcloth in the shower (recommend the salux one from Amazon). Your skin will be like a baby's arse and it will scrub any left over sweat from the day's activities. These things won't stop the sweating but should help prevent any odour.

ShhItIsASecret · 28/03/2019 07:39

Right.

When I was in my 20s, I was with an abusive man. I didn't leave because my parents kept telling me no one else would want me and that I was lucky he 'took me on' in the first place.

So I understand some of what you are saying. Different specifics; similar narrative.

Someone upthread said that what you are experiencing is not love but trauma bonding. This is so true. You feel like you love him yet all you talk about when you speak of ending it is guilt that he has spent money on you; missing his friends/family; fear of being alone.

So let's break it down a bit.

He might have spent money on you but that is not a reason to stay with him. You have sex with him - does he feel guilty about being unkind to you within the relationship? No.

They are his friends and his family. They are not yours. You cannot remain in a relationship just because you like his friends and family. They are not your friends or your family. If you think that your relationships with them would not stand breaking up with him, then they are not true friendships/relationships.

Begin to make plans for your new single life - lose weight if you want to; pick up hobbies you've long since forgotten or find new ones. Get out there and make friends. This is your life - it can be what you make it and you don't need to fear it.

At the moment you have no commitments with this man; nothing to stop you from walking away and starting afresh; nothing to hold you back except for your own fears. That's all you're describing - fear. Not love.

I went on to marry the man in my 20s (fool that I am!) and, by 37, I was separated with no friends, no job and 2 children to boot. By the time I was in my late 30s, I'd just had enough having lost the "but what if..?" fear that controlled my 20s. To give you some context, I wanted to end it quite early on but we occasionally went for early morning breakfasts with a flask of hot chocolate and croissants. I stood in Sainsbury's in front of the fresh croissants and cried because I believed I'd never eat a croissant again without feeling the pain of losing him if I ended it. Actually, croissants and I are fine.

When we did separate, it was tough for about 2 months. But I got a job, I started new hobbies, I made new friends... a lot of the depression and anxiety he'd supported me through over the years disappeared. I was constantly on ADs and in and out of therapy whilst I was with him. I haven't been on anything at all for 6 of the 7 years since we separated. 12 months after separating I was like a whole new person.

I'm not a 'strong' person - I had an abusive upbringing and still suffer from low self esteem and pervasive negative thoughts about myself, but I'm able to manage them now with positive self talk and taking a 'wait and see' approach when my imagination runs away with me. My only regret is that I allowed myself to be ruled by the 'fear' when I was younger.

After separating, I spent a long time on my own - I dated a bit here and there for company and just to 'test' myself and decide what I really wanted from a relationship.

I'm now 44 and met a man a few months ago and can honestly say that I feel truly loved and recognise that I didn't love my ex husband and he didn't love me. He sought to control me and make me into the 'perfect woman'. I was terrified of being alone and believed that no one else would ever want me.

I assumed at the time that I did love him because of the strength of my feeling but it wasn't love, it was an unhealthy emotional attachment and they are not the same thing at all.

It would break my heart to hear my 20 year old talk about themselves and a relationship the way you are doing.

And if alcohol is becoming an issue, then that is something you really need to tackle for your own wellbeing. Get rid of the negatives in your life and start living the life you want.

Take care Flowers

sb11adz · 01/05/2019 19:59

It's over. I feel so completely fucking broken. I wish I was dead.

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ThePerturbedPenguin · 01/05/2019 20:07

@sb11adz Just read your thread, and so so glad to see it has ended. I know things will feel so impossibly hard and you will go over and over the good times in your head and doubt whether you have made the right decision... Please trust yourself that you have. Value yourself enough to know that you are worth more than this.

Resist all temptations to call him, to go back to him - it will be difficult but we are all here behind you, and so will your family and friends I am sure.

Did you end it yourself?

sb11adz · 01/05/2019 20:10

He ended it. He found out something bad that I hadn't told him because I was scared of his reaction. I am so broken right now. I'd rather be single for the rest of my life.

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poppingoff · 01/05/2019 20:15

Oh, OP Thanks

I bet whatever this "bad" thing is, it's not as bad as he's making out, it's just something else to beat you and wear you down with.

Please take this opportunity to turn your life around. This is no loss! If you let yourself, you will see that soon enough.

Mof3K · 01/05/2019 20:15

What happened. Tell us x

Shouldbedoing · 01/05/2019 20:19

Dear OP, I was already raging at him before I read about the hyperidrosis and his vile lies about you smelling. This will not be true. I'm guessing with T1DM the sweating is head and chest and possibly associated with eating. These are not BO making sweat zones . He is negging you to make you grateful you have a man who will accept you. Look up negging. He is a nasty piece of work.

sb11adz · 01/05/2019 20:20

Ok this isn't easy for me so please be gentle. Upthread I said I thought I had an alcohol problem. I was drunk and emotional when I posted that. Because I had relapsed after not drinking for 4 months. I had been so good, going to AA meetings and getting my chips.

Anyway, when I do drink, I find it hard to control my bladder and he knew this. So he would check my mattress for stains to see that I hadn't been drinking. He looked the other day and found stains. And now that is that. He won't talk to me. He's blocked me on everything. I'm going mad. Before he blocked me he told me I was selfish and it hurt him to hear that I wanted to die because of him.

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Shouldbedoing · 01/05/2019 20:22

I read that you've been set free by him while I was posting. This may not feel like good news but it really really is. Be kind to yourself, spend time with family and friends. You have dodged a bullet here.

Shouldbedoing · 01/05/2019 20:23

Nasty man
Just nasty

sb11adz · 01/05/2019 20:27

All he could say before he blocked me was that it was all my fault and I'd hurt him too much.

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poppingoff · 01/05/2019 20:27

Okay, OP. It's no one else's fault that you chose to drink, BUT, this man is bad for your mental health and that has to be a contributing factor. Him checking your mattress is not supportive!

Please just concentrate on you and all aspects of your health. He is bad for you.

Are you back to meetings?

Mof3K · 01/05/2019 20:29
Hmm
sb11adz · 01/05/2019 20:31

Yes I am back to meetings and trying to get back on track

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snowdrop6 · 01/05/2019 20:32

I bet you didn’t smell at all,or you would of smelled it too.

poppingoff · 01/05/2019 20:33

Although I must ask, how did he know this was a new stain? And did he actually strip back your bedding to check this?

You can buy bedsheets with waterproof backing you know.

AnxietyForever · 01/05/2019 20:35

I can't believe he even checks your bedding in the first place! What an absolute wanker. It's actually a blessing he has broken up with you. You're now free!

sb11adz · 01/05/2019 20:36

He knew it was new because he had checked before and I had become careless in my relapse. I have a waterproof sheet but recently I had been drinking so much every night that I didn't have time to wash and dry it inbetween. I'm not proud of any of this. But I'm trying to make amends.

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user1479305498 · 01/05/2019 20:38

OP, I think you have these issues because he causes you anxiety, anxiety can cause all kinds of physical stuff. He isn't a nice man and he is not the kind of guy you need . An anxious person needs someone supportive and kind.

snowdrop6 · 01/05/2019 20:38

I’ve just read your update
He’s done you a favour.
Checking your mattress..what a controlling twat.
I know you said he’s blocked you.but make sure you block him as well.

Sofagirl · 01/05/2019 20:42

He sounds quite controlling and that he’s also ashamed of you

Why doesn’t he just leave you if he can’t stand it?

I think your making it worse by hanging onto him and he senses your desperation not to be single so you’d rather put up with it

Sorry if this sounds harsh

blue55 · 01/05/2019 20:44

Hope you manage to find some kind of support to get yourself well.

He sounds like a horrible horrible person. I also can't blame him for not wanting to be with someone with an addiction. Stay away from him and get yourself sorted. You deserve to be happy and healthy. This mans not going to help with either of these things.

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