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Am I wrong?

88 replies

Daisy164 · 24/03/2019 22:33

Ok, long story short.

I am divorced, my boyfriend is divorced, both been really badly hurt, both have custody of our respective children.

Been together 18 months, a bit rocky and have split a few times, mainly due to the difficulties of finding time for a relationship in between work, kids and everything else. The dynamics of having 5 children between us and ensuring that they all get on have caused a few problems at times but thankfully they now all have a really good relationship.

We are very much in love, he's an amazing man, very kind, a great dad, hardworking and wants to look after my children and I.

Now here's the tricky bit. My children see their dad every other weekend and my boyfriend and I usually spend most of the weekend together. In the past I have sometimes had to cancel because something has come up. Probably 5 or 6 times. Sometimes I am really tired and all I want to do is go home, stick my pjs on and sink into the sofa before having an early night. I would never do this on both nights of the weekend but I just need some downtime after a busy week with work and the kids. He's quite partial to sitting round the kitchen table getting drunk on a Saturday night and that's not me, I'd much rather go out and have some fun. It's not a huge problem but I get really bored.

This weekend has been a problem. We saw each other on Friday night and had a great night. I had to work all day yesterday and didn't get home until nearly 8pm. We had made some loose plans and he said he would cook dinner so I said I'd see what time I get back from work. In the meantime my niece went in to labour with her first baby and I was asked to go to the hospital after work. I rang my boyfriend and he said it was fine. Fast forward and I didn't end up going as there were some complications and we weren't allowed to go. By this time it was after 9 and I was really tired so messaged him to say I'm going to have an early night. I'd sensed that even though he said it was fine that it wasn't and I was worried about going over incase he was funny with me.We were doing something together all day today which needed an early start.

Today he has been really off with me. He has told me that even though we have spoken about me letting him down before, I still did it. That my dinner was ready for me, that I should have told my family I couldn't go to the hospital because I was seeing my boyfriend, that I should have left work earlier to be able to see him sooner. He says he doesn't trust me not to let him down and how disappointed he was. He said he sat at the kitchen table and cried when I didn't go over.

He then told me that he got ridiculously drunk last night and he was hungover and acting like a twat today as a result. He does this every time I don't go over. He says it is because he loves me so much and is desperate to spend time with me.

I'm a bit confused. Perhaps he's in a place that I am not, he has been divorced longer so is a bit further down the line but I am completely committed to him and love him very much but my concerns are:

  1. Is it wrong of me to want to spend some of my weekends without my children, at home. I still have housework etc to do and also need some alone time to recharge my batteries.
  1. Today he has told me that I shouldn't be there for my family when i have plans with him, that he doesn't trust me not to let him down, that I should have left work earlier than I did. He was more cross with me because I ended up not going to the hospital but instead of driving over to him I opted for an early night.

Only yesterday we were saying how happy we were and how we had a good balance and saw each other a lot.

We made up and he said he doesn't want to lose me but I am a bit all over the place.

Am I wrong, am I being selfish? I need someone to give me some perspective. I don't really see my friends anymore because I don't have time so I don't have anyone to talk to.

I left my husband after 20 years because he was abusive and controlling. I'm not saying for a single second that my boyfriend is anything like that, I'm just really confused and not sure I can give him what he really needs which breaks my heart as I love him and his children very much.

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TowelNumber42 · 26/03/2019 19:04

Bloody hell, his children messaged you! That is monumentally wrong on many levels. Block them in advance. Don't let him use them like that.

JoinedTheDarksideForKylo · 27/03/2019 08:28

That is the problem with Gaslighters, they know how to get under your skin. I hope you're ok OP. I think you are one strong lady. I know how hard it can be to keep it together when they are tugging on your heart strings.

ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow · 27/03/2019 09:20

If a man said to me at any point that "he drops things in an instant for me and puts me ahead of his kids" then I could not stay with him - I want to be with someone who puts their kids first.

Don't get sucked into defending yourself / communicating with him or his family about reasons for breaking up etc - at best it only prolongs the horrible post break-up phase and at worst it results in being guilt tripped into getting back together.

You're perfectly within your rights to end a relationship that makes you unhappy. You are not compatible when it comes to lifestyle - I'm like you and need my own space quite a lot even though I love my partner very much. I don't give reasons or excuses to him like I have done with other people, I just say I fancy a quiet night by myself but looking forward to seeing him another day. He understands because it really isn't a big deal to take time to yourself especially if you're planning to spend the rest of your life with someone!

You've made the right decision please stick with it Thanks

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 10:05

Thanks for the advice everyone, it really does help.

I'm not feeling too bad and know I've made the right decision, the more I think about it the more comes to mind about why I should have done it sooner, I just didn't recognise the flags.

He introduced me to his teenage children on the first night that we met even though I said I wasn't sure, way too soon. I had a pregnancy scare after a few months and it was negative but he was disappointed because he said that it would have meant that I'd never leave him.

I sought advice on a forum about something unrelated once and he wasn't happy as he said that I should only speak to him, despite doing that also.

I just need to break the habit of speaking to him everyday, wanting to pick up the phone and tell him things, ask how the kids are and how his day has been. I'll miss the good times but am sensible enough to see that they came at a cost.

Single hood for me from now on, it's just not worth the heartache xxxx

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ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow · 27/03/2019 10:12

Don't resign yourself to singlehood OP - you might well meet someone in the future and have a lovely relationship!

The turning point for me (after a number of unhealthy relationships)!was being genuinely happy single but open to meeting someone, thinking I'll be fine on my own but would be nice to find a partner. I'm really happy in my relationship but know I could cope on my own if it ended.

You sound lovely, just overwhelmed by someone who is constantly putting pressure on you and setting you up to fail. You'll be so much happier out of this relationship!

TowelNumber42 · 27/03/2019 11:28

Best friends often fulfil that need to have someone to tell little things to.

Do you perhaps need to focus on nurturing your friendships with women rather than on dating?

Happynow001 · 27/03/2019 11:42

@Daisy164*

You will get through this OP and have done absolutely brilliantly so far.

It's understandable you'll miss the closeness -
I just need to break the habit of speaking to him everyday, wanting to pick up the phone and tell him things, ask how the kids are and how his day has been. I'll miss the good times but am sensible enough to see that they came at a cost.

but the times you'll want to reach for the phone to contact him will lessen.

In the meantime if the urge gets too strong then write to him BUT DON'T send the message - just get it out of your system and delete it when you've finished writing it.

Good luck for a better future.

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 12:12

I couldn't sleep last night and wrote down everything that was whizzing through my mind. I haven't sent it though and won't. Made that mistake on one of the many previous breakups xx

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Happynow001 · 27/03/2019 12:29

Easily done... 😊

BlueSaphire · 27/03/2019 12:36

After just reading the OP...he sounds like an immature pillock who is great as long as everything is fitting in with his plans, sulks like a kid if something more important comes up and plans have to be changed.

Robin2323 · 27/03/2019 12:37

It seems like you were at different stages.
You wanted a boyfriend to enhance your life.

He wanted the whole 9 yards.
Seeing you loads maybe even marriage.

After 18 months I was dh every day and our 4 children were together eow.

It was what we both wanted.

You just seem to be on a different page.

The drinking would be a problem.

I think he just wanted more than you were able to give at this stage in your life.

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 13:57

Being ghosted on snap chat now!

Maturity level anyone? 🤦‍♀️

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Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 14:00

I really want to tell him what I think and it's taking every ounce of will power to not

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Robin2323 · 27/03/2019 14:23

He's hurting.
Just leave it for now.
You've made your choice.

Look to the future for you and your kids.

IvanaPee · 27/03/2019 14:48

Ghosted? But you split up...

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 15:08

I know. Just said because he did it last time then after a few days started to message me again.

Not falling for it this time x

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Robin2323 · 27/03/2019 15:11

He probably will again because he wants more of you than you can give.

Be kind now

Let him be.

Unless you feel you can offer more to him.

Best let him find someone else who can do that.

IvanaPee · 27/03/2019 15:46

Then block him, problem solved! 🤷‍♀️

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 16:09

It's almost amusing. I did that last time and got called immature!

Trying to rise above it.

I am seriously ignoring the habits and concentrating on the future now

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IvanaPee · 27/03/2019 17:02

But if you block him, how can he call you immature?

It’s great that you want to concentrate on moving forward but you won’t do that while you’re watching his SM€

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 17:08

Through his kids.

I'm not on any social media, we just used to use snap chat.

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TeaForTheWin · 27/03/2019 17:20

I sat at the table and cried and got drunk and its all your fault waaaaaaah. He sounds a bit needy and controlling. Perhaps you have been a bit flakey with him to be fair but...you don't seem to be that compatible either way.

Also further reading your replies, he wasn't there for you when you were hurt, infact it sounds like he may even have split with you because you had the cheek to be upset over someone else rather than him and he had to steal the lime light.

Dude is a right cunt, at the very least. Potentially controlling and manipulative too. It sounds like you've got into a habit of dating the wrong sort..maybe because they often seem lovely in the beginning/like a knight in shining armor (which is what we feel we need after a shit relationship or a marriage ending). They all have lovely sparkly paper on their boxes, but open them up and it's the same thing inside...a box full of shite.

I say time to ditch him and make more me-time for yourself. Sounds like you could do with a wee hliday, maybe a cheeky cocktail on the beach... and a cheeky cocktail waiter too xD

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 18:34

Teaforthewin

I'll meet you at the airport tomorrow!!

That made me laugh, thank you. I agree, I think I possibly have been a bit flakey with him but I don't think it warranted all the dumping and emotion.

Someone said earlier that a bit of downtime should come without recourse when you've promised to spend your life with someone. That has really rung true for me too.

He told me he was devastated last time we split and he soon realised that he couldn't live without me so I'm sure he's hurting. I want him to be ok.

I've just been offered a new job so am going to concentrate on new beginnings 😊

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TeaForTheWin · 27/03/2019 18:53

Better say a month, gotta renew my passport! :(

Lol 'couldn't live without you' good grief what a big old drama queen xD He'll be fine, he has a support system of his own. You have nothing to feel guilty about to don't let that or worry about him draw you back in. Totally cut contact n block the bunch of them!

Good luck with the new job!

Daisy164 · 27/03/2019 18:59

Very very true!

I've just renewed mine with all the Brexit drama plus going on holiday in 2 weeks. Will have the kids with me so whilst I'll manage the cheeky cocktail, the waiter may have to wait a bit!! 😊

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