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Husband says spark has gone but still wants me to have fertility treatment with donor egg....

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Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 15:53

Hi, if anyone can help me get some perspective on this awful situation I'm in I'd really appreciate it!

Bit of background, together for 13 years, married for 9. I have one grown up daughter from a previous relationship, I had her very young. We have been trying to have children for years (even though I have never been sure if I wanted anymore, having dd at 19, being a single parent, post natal depression and zero support kind of put me off!) and have now moved on to using donor eggs as ivf using my own eggs failed.

Husband never seemed too bothered about having children but I guess his age (41) has made him realise how important it is to him to have them.

He is a very complex person who on the outside and to other people is charming, kind, outgoing, considerate. At home he is very distant, tells me he isn't happy, depressed, he has been like this for years, before infertility was an issue. There were plenty of good times but lots of lows.

Now he is blaming the fact that he may never be a father on his depression. I keep telling him that having a baby isn't going to be the magical cure he is looking for and that he needs to deal with his problems by seeing someone as I can't help him anymore, I've tried to counsel and help him for years but it doesn't seem to help and he refuses to see a counsellor .

I am really not fussed about having more children, but I guess I'm lucky and I've had one, he always says I will never understand what he is going through as I have dd..

I also worry that I can't trust him, he is like a Jekyll and Hyde, has cheated on me in the past and can be emotionally abusive.

When he told me he would never be happy without children, I panicked and agreed to use donor eggs to give him the child he so desperately wants. We had 2 frozen embryos made with his sperm and a donor egg from an anonymous donor. We found out just before Xmas that our first attempt failed. During the 2 week wait he was amazing, attentive, happy, kind, nice, just normal!

Since we found out treatment failed he has been pretty awful since.... distant, acting like he just didn't want to be with me anymore.

Last night he told me the spark is gone and couldn't say for sure if he still wants to be married to me but he loves me and doesn't want to hurt me. I've told him to grow a pair and to just fucking tell me if he wants to end it. I'm exhausted by him and his moods.

He woke up this morning and wanted cuddles/sex (that didn't happen obvs) and saying he thinks we should try the second embryo but I've told him no, we aren't in the right place to even be thinking about having kids and why the hell is he messing with my head like this.

I've had a lot to deal with with all the hormones and coming to terms with having to use a donor egg and have felt alone in the whole process as he just can't stand to see me being ill (with the hormones) or deal with the fact we can't 'just have a baby'.

My head is a mess, I have cried so many tears over this gorgeous, complicated man that I love. He is destroying me, I am feeling insecure and unloved. The family unit that we made isn't enough for him, my daughter adores him and him her but this isn't enough for him.

I am at the end of my tether. Living with a depressed person is exhausting. Walking on eggshells, feeling rejected I'm exhausted by him.

I am 45 this year and terrified of walking away from our marriage and lovely home but I'm starting to think that is what I need to do.

He earns quite a lot of money and controls the finances, I have a part time job that wouldn't support me financially if i left.

The thought of him meeting someone else and having children with them is soul destroying.

Do I walk away from our lovely house, friends and 13 years and start again?

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and come through the other side?

Thanks for reading.

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sarahjconnor · 13/01/2019 15:54

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Thehop · 13/01/2019 15:59

Sweetheart you need. Bloody break.

Can you book a holiday? Stay with a friend? Get some distance to think about what you really want?

I’ll be honest, it sounds like a baby....or him....are not what your heart really does want.

Lifeisabeach09 · 13/01/2019 16:10

Definitely do not have a baby with this man.
Get a full time job.
Leave and find a man whose life goals are the same as yours.
I think you need to let this man go so he can achieve what he wants (a child) with someone else.

QueenOfTheCroneAge · 13/01/2019 16:12

OP please don't let him use your body as an incubator for his frankly selfish 'needs'. Bringing another child into this will make things worse not better. He sounds in no shape to be a father to a baby, and you yourself are nearing 45.... As Thehop says - you need a break.

bastardkitty · 13/01/2019 16:14

Please don't even think about doing this.

Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 16:15

I would have a baby happily but we can't have one, hence years of fertility treatment... I can be happy without... He says he can't.

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Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 16:16

I know... I've told him no more treatment now... my heart is breaking in two.

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LoversLane · 13/01/2019 16:18

Fertility treatment is hard enough with having to factor in MH issues as well. You are right in saying that a baby will not fix everything, when the reality of a new born hits him his MH could really take a turn for the worse. I know from experience.

Try to have some time away and think what you want Flowers

Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 16:18

No treatment means no babies. He's told me he can't go through life without children of his own. I guess that means we are over.

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Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 16:20

Thanks everyone, I need some time out for sure. I'm thinking about where I can go to get some perspective on this. He has been my life for 13 years So it's quite difficult to accept this is happening.

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losingfaith · 13/01/2019 16:22

Op he has told you the spark has gone. Sounds like he is hanging on because he wants a child and needs you to carry it. What about once you have had the child? If you split up, you'll be tied to him until said child grows up.

losingfaith · 13/01/2019 16:23

Sorry that sounded far more blunt than intended.

NicoAndTheNiners · 13/01/2019 16:23

But if he's saying he doesn't know if he wants to be married to you it sounds like you'd be over anyway.

And a baby does not guarantee that you'd stay together. How would you feel if you had the baby and three months later he left anyway?

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 13/01/2019 16:31

My love, your husband is emotionally abusive, has a history of cheating and is using you as not much more than a grow-bag. What's to say that as soon as the baby comes he won't tick it off his to-do list and leave anyway, attempting full custody at the same time?
Please don't have a baby with this man. You need to leave.

Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 16:32

Exactly, I totally agree. I can't risk being a single mum again, especially at 45. I think I know what to do but am completely devastated... all the years and all the shit I have put my body through and this is the thanks I get.

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AgentJohnson · 13/01/2019 16:35

There’s a high probability that a child won’t ‘fix’ his depression. You will be left holding the baby while he finds another external reason to blame for his depression.

Musti · 13/01/2019 16:42

He's financially controlling and a Jekyll and Hyde? I wouldn't have children with that man.

ImNotKitten · 13/01/2019 16:43

Horrible situation for you OP, you are not just there to serve as an incubator. It would be a terrible idea to tie yourself to him for another 18 years plus when he’s got one foot out the door talking about not being sure about staying married to you.

MargotsFlounceyBlouse · 13/01/2019 16:44

God, you poor love. So basically what he wants is a brood mare not a loving partner?

I really feel for you as it seems evident that you'll only "win" if you do everything he wants and nothing you want. Which isn't really winning.

I think are right to be angry. It may well be hard to separate but it sounds like you're exhausted already. I've a feeling you may have a huge new lease of life to come with lots of happiness ... But just not here.

I know his type, he's very likely to shack up settle and have babies with someone else, probably quite quickly. I hope you could see this as a lucky escape and not what could have been. It would be madness to bring a baby into this loveless situation he doesn't sound emotionally available enough to parent successfully.

Awful situation though, I really hope you can have some decent time and space to work out what is right for YOU. Flowers

Sadsoph · 13/01/2019 17:25

Thanks everyone for your kind messages. Im in a bit of a state and this is a terrifying decision for me. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

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Tractortod · 13/01/2019 17:29

It's like he's using you as a potential baby vessel. He just sees you as a robot to service his want for a child and then treats you lile shit when it isn't working.

For your own sanity and self preservation it's time to walk away. It sounds like you have give your everything and more.

I'm very sorry for this horrid situation you find yourself in..Flowers do you have support elsewhere?

Pockybot · 13/01/2019 17:41

Sorry if someone has already said this but does the clinic have counsellors attached you can see?

BumbleBeee69 · 13/01/2019 17:49

I'm so sorry OP, you sound shattered emotionally and physically, please take good care of yourself Flowers

Maelstrop · 13/01/2019 17:59

Picture yourself in ten years, with or without the potential child. Do you see the situation being better? Worse? A baby won't fix this, please don't bring one into this scenario. He refuses to seek help, so this is your life now, unless you decide to leave.

mummmy2017 · 13/01/2019 18:01

Well, thought nothing could shock me .
On here, but this man has...
Tell him he has killed the spark in you too.