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What would you do about this friend?

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BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 17/12/2018 20:52

Hello wise people of mumsnet.
I am looking for som advice on a friendship dilemma. I'll try not to dripfeed so this might be long. Ready to be told it's me and not her, but please be gentle.
This weekend I was hosting a little gathering for some old and new friends before christmas. It was at my place.
At my there were 4 people over the weekend: my mum who'd come over to help and see some of my childhood friends (she lives nearby), a male friend (let's call him A) who came from further away and a female friend B, who also traveled to attend the gathering, so slept over.
It was clear from the beginning that she wouldn't be my only guest and I left her a choice if she wanted to come. B insisted. During the party she sat in a corner and would ignore people trying to include her, even though I had asked one of my oldest friends to be her "assistant" so she wouldn't be alone while I was taking care of the other guests. She also mostly ignored/blanked my friend A over the weekend, despite them both staying at my house. So far so good, you can't like everyone, fair enough, but she seemed really annoyed and almost like a pouty toddler that she wasn't my only guest, even though that had been clear from the start.

However she was also really clingy, in a physical way. She was constantly trying to touch my hand or hug me from the back which I found uncomfortable. Maybe it's just me, I don't really like people touching me. She also tried to get "between" me and other friends, especially friend A, when we were talking as in physically seperating us and stopping the conversation, which I found kind of impolite. But once again, maybe she's insecure in social situations, I am too (if I weren't I wouldn't have to ask for advice on here).

The most odd thing however was, that I caught her going through my stuff twice. I had an envelope on my desk which I saw her flick through and quickly put away when entering the room and she looked through my shelves when she thought nobody was looking. I was ready to let it slide when this morning my mum texted me to tell me that she'd caught my friend going through her bag. When my mum confronted her she said she was "looking for her gloves" which strikes me as odd, why should my mum have them? And they wouldn't be on my shelves or my envelope either? She has some issues and is kind of fragile, so I can't go in guns blazing but I feel like I should adress this issue. With the situation now I wouldn't feel comfortable having friend B back in my home. Am I overreacting? And if yes, please let me know how to deal better with this.

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eddielizzard · 18/12/2018 19:00

I don't know Bibbedy, does it fit? I didn't mean to creep you out. Sorry. It's not a nice feeling.

BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 18/12/2018 20:31

To be honest, I hadn't really considered looking at it that way, @SummerGems and @Weezol , if it was a man behaving like that, people would see the situation in a different light.
If it was someone elses thread I would probably find it quite worrying or if a friend told me about a situation like this, I'd tell them to get out of the situation. It's harder when you're emotionally entangled but you are all right. I need distance. A lot. And soon.
@eddielizzard it kind of fits, yes. Makes me sad to lose a friend that way but that's not much of a friendship, right? It kind of makes me feel uncomfortable now to think I left her my bedroom to sleep in. As you can tell, my mind is all over the place right now

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BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 19/12/2018 20:08

Hello lovely people,
it's me again. I have been a really low contact all day but now my friend keeps texting me. Things like "We need to talk about this weekend" and "I am sorry about what happened". I haven't told her I know. What the hell is she asking forgiveness for? I need to confront her now, do I? I had hoped to end this with less drama, especially this close to Christmas.

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Loopytiles · 19/12/2018 20:12

You don’t need to do anything. Ignoring her is fine.

eddielizzard · 19/12/2018 20:18

You don't have to do anything. If you don't feel up to talking to her yet you could make an excuse to buy a bit of time. Or you could phone her and let her talk. I reckon she'll tell you why she acted so weirdly.

Depends what you want long term out of this friendship. Do you still have a good time? Do you give each other support? Or is it all one sided? Do you feel smothered?

How would you feel if you ended the friendship? Relieved or sad?

Gina2012 · 19/12/2018 20:22

I'm really interested to understand why you would think that ANYTHING that has happened could be your fault?

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 19/12/2018 20:27

I would actually text back, "You went through my mum's bag and my stuff. You were also deliberately rude to my friends. I don't want to talk about this and I don't want to hear from you again."

But then I am a bastard too. She is going to suck the life out of you. Run for the fucking hills and dump her.

BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 19/12/2018 20:28

@eddielizzard It's quite one-sided, her ranting and if I ever tell something that happened to me, something at least three times worse has happened to her, so I would probably feel sad but also relieved.

@Gina2012 I usually think I gave someone the wrong signals. Also when I was younger, everything that went wrong was my fault, so I am "programmed" to think that, if that makes sense.

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BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 19/12/2018 20:29

@MrsDesireeCarthorse that sounds actually quite tempting but I could never be this drastic.

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Gina2012 · 19/12/2018 20:31

Also when I was younger, everything that went wrong was my fault, so I am "programmed" to think that, if that makes sense.

But how can your friend snooping in other peoples bags, your friend being obnoxious and your friend being inappropriate, be your fault?

Even if you have been programmed from birth, surely you have the ability to use discernment?

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 19/12/2018 20:32

@BibbedyBobbedy, I recommend this course of action after having been through similar. At some point you will either do this or crack and scream at her to fuck off and leave you alone. You cannot manage emotional vampires, you cannot keep them at arms' length, you cannot make them dial it down.

You really do just need to tell her to fuck off and find another victim or she will destroy you. Look at how much stress she has already caused. It will not get better. She creeps me out just from your post, I would be pressing the nuclear button.

eddielizzard · 19/12/2018 20:33

It sounds pretty awful tbh. You're allowed to be friends with whoever you like. You've not done anything wrong and it's not your responsibility to be friends with her. You are not responsible for her.

You could text back that last weekend was exhausting and you need her to give you some space for a bit.

If she starts kicking off, you can block her. You don't have to deal with her. Confrontation is hard and unpleasant, but view it as something to be got through rather than avoided.

CottonTailRabbit · 19/12/2018 20:45

It doesn't sound to me like you are even friends really. She's this weird person who clings to you. You are like her carer or therapist.

You do not need to confront her now (or ever). I'd respond "I don't want to get into this now. I don't want any drama over Christmas. I can hear your apology in the new year." Then do not respond to further messages, block if necessary.

BibbedyBobbedyBackToBed · 19/12/2018 21:36

@Gina2012 these issues are things I am currently working on with a therapist, but sometimes it is still hard for me to not fall back into these patterns :)

Everyone else, you are right, I have to put on my big girl pants and sort this once and for all so I can go on with my life and she can hopefully get on with hers.

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MrsJane · 19/12/2018 21:37

Have you ever seen Single White Female?! Shock

But seriously, this is disturbing.

She is addressing there's something wrong so I would be honest and tell her that her behaviour made you, and others, feel uncomfortable and you think it would be best to have some distance.

GhostSauce · 19/12/2018 21:40

I would send her a simple text:

"You are texting me far too much and it is making me feel uncomfortable and a bit suffocated. Please lay off the texting, have a nice Christmas and we'll catch up in the new year".

stabulous · 19/12/2018 21:44

Hooooooboy she's a bunny boiler waiting to happen.

Distance yourself as soon as humanly possible. I cannot stress this enough.

thefourgp · 19/12/2018 21:52

I had to tell a friend I was ending our friendship once. It was tough and I did it by speaking with her over the phone. She was draining and I couldn’t give her the support she needed and wanted as she bounced from one drama to the next. She was upset but accepted it and I’m glad I did it. I think you need to end your relationship with her OP. It’s not healthy. X

freshfoodpeople · 20/12/2018 05:41

I would actually text back, "You went through my mum's bag and my stuff. You were also deliberately rude to my friends. I don't want to talk about this and I don't want to hear from you again."

I too would send this, and then block her on every means possible. It's not in the slightest bit drastic. But, if you don't want to send her a text, then at least block her. Hopefully that will get the message across at least.

Tentomidnight · 20/12/2018 08:01

OP, I had a friend who acted similarly, right down to going through my personal stuff and being rude to my other friends. The final straw was her upsetting a good friend. I cut her off after that.

I do regret that I didn’t tell her why, and felt guilty for a while after as she sent cards and gifts. It may be kinder for you to send the above text so that you both know where you stand.

Nanny0gg · 20/12/2018 12:37

She's a lovely girl

No she's not. And it's not your job to 'rescue' her

Katgurl · 20/12/2018 13:15

Op I've had this with a man. It was truly horrible. I felt like I couldn't breathe. He was determined to separate me out from everybody else and it was all done under the guise of friendship.

When I faced a personal crisis I realised the last thing I needed was dealing with his drama and fully cut him out. I should have done it months earlier.

How you do it is up to you. Personally I would want to be kind but firm.

Maybe message: my mum told me what happened. I feel discussing it is unnecessary. I'm sure you had your reasons, I don't want to hear about them but I am not holding anything against you. I am finding our friendship suffocating as you are texting me so much so would like to end contact for the time being. I think you are a really nice person and I wish you all the best. Please take care of yourself.

Dallasty · 20/12/2018 13:31

She is not a friend. Irrespective of her issues....i'd be dropping her without hesitation.

Roussette · 20/12/2018 13:33

Bibbedy I think you have to ask yourself... what does she bring to the friendship for you???
Not what you do for her, but what are the benefits of being friends with her...

Get a piece of paper, put a line down to vertically, head it 'pros' and 'cons'. Write down the pros and cons with having her with a friend. Betcha the 'cons' column is full, whilst the 'pros' column is empty or nearly empty

Roussette · 20/12/2018 13:35

Katgurl I know that's being kind but she isn't 'a really nice person'. She's selfish and rude.

I would honestly just text saying 'I'm afraid this friendship is just not working for me. Good luck for the future'.

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