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How bad is this? I think I’m minimising

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TheLittleSparrow · 04/12/2018 04:24

bit of background: I grew up with an extremely violent father who would inflict the most horrendous physical abuse on my mum. It continued throughout my childhood and as a result I have been left with skewed boundaries as to what is acceptable in relationships. I’ve been in therapy for years with different counsellors/psychotherapists but I still have problems with self esteem and with identifying abusive behaviour.

I’m in a relationship now with someone who constantly blames everything on me to the point where I feel that I am the problem. Some examples:

He criticises my mannerisms, the way I speak, the clothes I wear but will say he is ‘joking’
He sometimes questions my whereabouts and will try to trip me up I.e he will ask me to repeat to him again exactly what I was doing and will look for discrepancies in my answer. He will then say that I changed my response or that I said something I don’t remember saying and I end up tied up in knots
He is extremely paranoid to the point where he has asked me to FaceTime him when I am not with him. He says it’s because he ‘misses my pretty face’ but I am sure that is not the reason as once I couldn’t FaceTime him (I was visiting a relative who lives rurally and I had poor phone reception/data) and he said he’d driven to my house to check that I wasn’t there. He said his gut was telling him that I’d lied about my whereabouts and he thought I was at home with another man
I told him I wanted to break up with him a month ago and he grabbed my arm to stop me from leaving his house. He called me a cunt and shouted at me. When he finally calmed down he said he was sorry but he loves me so much and is scared to lose me. He also said he finds me very difficult to be in a relationship with and he thinks I am emotionally abusive towards him.

None of this is ok is it? This isn’t me causing these problems? I feel like he is fucking with my head everyday and I can’t see the wood for the trees. He’s started saying his friends and family are concerned about how I treat him but that if he is happy with me then he will just have to put up with it.

I’m awake at this time of the morning because I can’t sleep due to anxiety. He told me that he’s been treated badly in all his past relationships so that is the only thing that makes me think it can’t be me in the wrong - the common denominator is him and he can’t have been unlucky enough for every women he has met to have been abusive or a cheat surely? Although I also know he is still friends with his exes friends so if he was that awful then surely they wouldn’t want anything to do with him?

Any advice or wise words would be much appreciated.

OP posts:
oofadoofa · 04/12/2018 18:21

Random guy here, no abusive relationship experience. But I come across posts such as this from time to time here on Mumsnet and the first thought, since you ask, is come on, this isn’t normal. Not at all. Any insecurities he has aren’t your responsibility, he has a responsibility to treat you like a human being, and what you do and where you go, what you wear etc, is none of his fucking business. If he doesn’t like it, then why on earth is he with you?

And interrogating you on your whereabouts/actions is just flat out mental.

You owe him nothing. Zero.

Thought I’d throw in my two pence worth. Take care of yourself and all the best.

MozzieMagnet · 04/12/2018 19:06

You are with a hypercritical, controlling, paranoid, abusive arsehole.
He is not good for your physical or mental health.
I hope you get out. I would also recommend the freedom programme - it is also available on-line for 12 pounds.

AgathaF · 04/12/2018 19:12

You're doing the right thing. You deserve so much better than this.

Definitely tell your neighbours, and if there's anyone that could come round to yours for the evening, maybe do that too? Does he have a key to your place?

Aaaahfuck · 04/12/2018 19:58

As pp's have said don't tell him which friends you're at. When you go home do you have friends or family who could stay with you? I know it sounds dramatic but you need to plan for the worst situation. You're being so strong its not you it's him.

CoolGirlsNeverGetAngry · 04/12/2018 20:05

If he’s being extra nice is there a chance he has read the thread somehow?

TheLittleSparrow · 04/12/2018 20:11

So I’ve done it, I’ve ended it.im at a friends house and will stay here for a few days (ex doesn’t know where she lives).

He tried his hardest to change my mind and I ended up putting the phone down. He’s blocked on everything. Have had 33 missed calls from a withheld number in the space of 30 minutes and hes left a few voicemails saying he knows I’m with another man right now. Hes messaged me through my eBay account (wtf) as well as he can’t trxt or email me. My neighbour has said she will call me if he turns up at mine.

Feeling quite shaky but relieved at the same time. I don’t think he’s going to give up easily which worries me. I can see j might end up getting the police involved, I really think he is unhinged.

OP posts:
TheLittleSparrow · 04/12/2018 20:15

agatha no he doesn’t have a key to mine luckily

coolgirls oh gosh I hope not. This morning he said he thought I seemed a bit distant and he was worried I was having doubts about the relationship, I think that’s what triggered the niceness

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LostwithSawyer · 04/12/2018 20:16

You've done the right thing! He is not sane.
Block all withheld numbers if need be. You can also turn your voicemail off if you dont want him leaving messages.
Good luck.

ButteryParsnips · 04/12/2018 20:21

Please be very careful when you return to your house OP. Take someone with you if you can. And don't hesitate to ring the police at any point if he shows up. He is unhinged. What reasonable person would behave like this towards someone they said was abusing them? You'd think he'd be glad for it to be over. But of course this is all part of his game.

Sexnotgender · 04/12/2018 20:22

You’ve absolutely done the right thing. You’re so much better without him!

Please be careful though, he sounds nasty.

DiveBombingSeagull · 04/12/2018 20:32

Well done OP you have been very brave. Do be careful though he sounds very dangerous.

ohfourfoxache · 04/12/2018 20:42

Can you forewarn work in case he turns up?

TheLittleSparrow · 04/12/2018 20:58

As expected I just got a call from the neighbours. Ex was knocking on my door for a while then went round to their house and said he was worried I had harmed myself as he hadn’t heard from me for a while. He told them I suffer from MH problems and that I’m not well - this is not true!! They told him to go away but they have advised me to go to the police as they think someone needs to have a word with him

Feeling really quite unsettled now

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KlutzyDraconequus · 04/12/2018 21:00

I'd be dialing the non emergency police tbh. See what they suggest.

scepticalwoman · 04/12/2018 21:07

Poor you OP - but well done for getting rid. I second the idea of calling 101. The fact that he has spoken to your neighbours and deliberately lied about you is a huge red flag - it shows the level of his manipulation.
If he's tech savvy it might be worth you changing all your passwords? And to check that he's not installed any kind of tracking software on your phone etc? (you'll know if he has those skills or not).

Good luck - it's great that you have real life support.

TheLittleSparrow · 04/12/2018 21:10

sceptical could he have put tracking software on my phone remotely? I’m not sure how these things work but I am worried about that

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KlutzyDraconequus · 04/12/2018 21:12

If he'd had access to your phone for a few minutes he could have put a tracking app on your phone.

Go to your apps via the settings menu, uninstall any you don't recognise or use.

Whywonttheyletmeusemyusername · 04/12/2018 21:16

Christ, he sounds like my ex as well. Plesse please PLEASE stay strong....my ex wouldn't leave me alone after I ended it. It was easier to go back. Which I did. Several times. Surprisingly it didn't "get better", he "didn't get help" and I ended up with a lifetime restraining order on him. Please please don't cave, as I did. Things will not change. Call 101 and start logging everything. Good luck lovely. You have all the mumsnet vipers behind you xx

BifsWif · 04/12/2018 21:17

Please call 101 and report this. I’d also ask for any information about him under Clare’s Law.

QueenofallIsee · 04/12/2018 21:20

OP, you have done the right thing. I am also from a background with DV and have spent years and years making poor choices - you are almost free of it as you have recognised it and taken steps! Be proud of that. This will possibly get worse, be vocal and open about the reality you ah e been leaving would be my advice. I often felt ashamed and allowed people to believe my abuser was the good guy he pretended to be as I felt it reflected poorly on me that he wasn’t somehow? I regret not being more open with my support system earlier as they are invaluable. Police if it comes to it, coercive control and emotional abuse are punishable by law.

AgathaF · 04/12/2018 21:40

I think calling the non-emergency line is a good idea.

Stay strong, you've done the right thing.

Snowwontbelong · 04/12/2018 23:51

Claire's Law is to protect women in your position. Please contact the police.

Cherryberrypie · 05/12/2018 03:07

Well done OP. Now get yourself a personal safety alarm. He sounds dangerous

MozzieMagnet · 05/12/2018 03:59

Hi OP.
Start logging everything including today's visit to the neighbours and the 33 withheld calls. Transcribe the voice mails and screenshot the ebay messages. Do not go back to this man.
I, too, would contact the police and ask for advice if he turns up again at your home or work. Do not engage with this man.
Do not allow him into your house and do not agree to any conversations for closure or any other pretence to force contact.
Ring the police if he corners you - have your phone ready and charged - it might be helpful to have the badge no./name of who you spoke to originally. When you do go home I would ask a friend or family member to stay with you for a while.

Wishing you all the best for the future.

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WhateverHappenedToTheHeatwave · 05/12/2018 04:55

So glad you are safe away from him. You need to call the police, he is harassing you and trying to manipulate and coerce you. Psychologically he's bern messing with you, he's not likely to stop on his own.

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