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If your husband might maybe possibly slightly be getting too close to someone...

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DandyScandi · 17/11/2018 19:53

This feels ridiculous.

I am beginning to suspect my husband is getting closer to a friend/person he met whilst working (think "client" but not really). But in a way that I can't possibly question without feeling like a crazy wife! As in - there is nothing to suggest anything untoward, other than the fact I know my husband...

He always talks about who he has had meetings with and what his day has looked like (isn't office based,so it's a topic of general chat in our household, who he's met and where he's been etc) - but he's started being quite evasive in offering details. When he is evasive and I've questioned him more, it's been this woman that he's meeting. But his evasiveness is totally not the kind I could call him out on, as it's so "natural". Like he'll say "then i have a meeting with someone at 2pm before going to meet Jack to debrief". So it's totally normal! But he'd usually say "I'm meeting Ruth at 2pm" or "I'm meeting a person from X business at 2pm"

And he looks a little more...forced?! when he mentions he's meeting her. Like he's trying to look normal about it. But maybe he just is normal and I'm reading into that?!

And (we freely swap phones and use each others messaging apps etc, so he's not trying to hide stuff as he knows I'll likely see chats etc) he messages her A LOT. More than any other "client"/ friend. But none of the messages are anything suspicious. But just quite frequent (for a guy who rarely replies to my messages!).

She's interested in his line of work, and he's offering her advice and support in that, which is also normal for his business - there are several people he's doing this for, but it seems different with her. But maybe I'm paranoid?

And finally, she confides quite a lot in him - but in a general chat kind of way, I think. So it can be quite personal, but not more than you would be with any friend. I think it's because the lines are blurred in his work between work and friendships - everyone ends up quite chummy and socialise a lot etc... clients and staff and other work connections etc. I'd feel more comfortable if she was clearly in the "work" category, but she seems to creep more and more into "friend I don't mention meeting" category. But he wouldn't hide it if I asked directly... and he's invited her to our home, and I know he's occasionally (but not often) mentioned me to her in messages (so she knows I exist!)...

If it makes a difference, she's VERY similar in looks and personality to his ex. And I'm very different to them (different race and different cultural background, so quite different!).

Do I sit back and watch quietly to see, so I don't come across as crazy?!

Do I ask him why he avoids telling me he's meeting her?

Do I just outright say "so do you have a crush on X or what?!"

Or what do I say or do? Just leave it seems the least insane to me, but I hate that it could become something more and I might have been able to stop it by mentioning it to him now. Or will it become something anyway, with someone else if not her, if that's the way he is...? I don't think he is, but if I've learnt anything on mumsnet, it's that we can't be as certain about men as we thought we could.

I feel ridiculous contemplating saying anything to him based purely on my hunch. But when is gut feeling actually worth acting on and when should it be ignored?

Gah! Thanks for any advice!

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Winterhatsandgloves · 18/11/2018 20:09

Buttery, I think you are right, and if you say anything there is a risk of being told you're a crazy person who doesn't trust them and if you say nothing the result is practically the same. You wait and watch and drive yourself mad with worry, with your dh either knowing you are watching or blisssfully unaware you are watching.

Whether he is doing anything untoward or not, I think it's a horrible situation to be in.

Bodabing · 18/11/2018 20:15

My DH was yours 6 months ago. It turned into an emotional affair, only 4 weeks as I found out and he dropped her as soon as I did and we are in therapy. He had never heard the term EA and said he never wanted sex (texts show he did turn her down twice on the offer) but she was a self harmer in a bad marriage and he was being a white knight. Even though I can see he never actively aimed for an affair and regrets it it's damaged us permanently and we may not recover. I also had a feeling. Talk to him, and keep talking and if need be get him to read Shirley Glasses ' Not Just Friends.' all the best OP

FearLoveAndTheTimeMachine · 19/11/2018 08:14

Nobody is innocent texting a coworker/professional contact, even an innocent friend, at 6.30am on a Sunday.

don't think he's deleting anything. The conversations seem to continue with no weird missing bits

Please don’t assume this means anything. Anyone devious enough to delete messages will delete a block of them in a way that makes the existing chat log look like it has flowed smoothly. Only a complete blunder head would delete the flirty overture message and leave the reaction, or delete in a way that looks disjointed, like something is missing.

yetmorecrap · 19/11/2018 12:40

Yes steak and kidney, he does know I found it all, I was devastated for months and he went white as a sheet when I confronted him and said ‘it was just a crush, she had no idea’. May well be the case but it’s certainly affected how I feel. He was very very sorry indeed but it is something that can’t be discussed as he says he wasn’t mentally well at the time and can’t remember doing it (his mum was dying and we had business problems) personally I think poppycock ! but it’s a hard choice as it wasn’t recent , I am however now much wiser and not nearly as trusting . I’ve learnt even the nice ‘new man’ type of guys can be total arses

Steakandkidney · 19/11/2018 13:18

Crap
I think most of them are selfish arses deep down. Of course he remembers.
It is similar to post affair. It is never, ever the same. That trust, and the belief of what kind of person they are, disappears forever. It can be ok, but never what it was.
Women manage to cope with bereavements etc without focusing on other men.
I wish you well x

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 19/11/2018 13:45

I wouldn't go with a jokey or lighthearted approach. How you feel and his behaviour towards you at 3 weeks post partum is serious. Going for lighthearted will allow him to dismiss your concerns too easily. And he will want to dismiss them, because otherwise it means admitting he os overstepping appropriate boundaries and not doing the right thing by you.
I second reading Shirley Glass 'not just friends'. She talks about people being friends to your marriage or not and about how to maintain a strong relationship and good boundaries. Your h would benefit from reading it too, if his job or personality lends itself to straying beyond what is strictly professional.

TatianaLarina · 19/11/2018 15:47

He won’t buy the jokey line anyway. He will know you too well.

You’re a bit upset about and I think you should be honest.

desperatesux · 19/11/2018 17:10

I would really talk to him seriously and soon, don't wait until he goes away. You really need to nip this in the bud before it becomes something. I know you shouldn't need to police but many people get complacent and all affairs start someone. You are doubly unlucky in that the other party seems interested too. texting at 630 is completely not on and totally beyonds the realms of a professional relationship. I think you are right to be concerned but it doesn't sound like it has gone anywhere yet

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