Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

DV-you think leaving is the hard part. It isn't.

53 replies

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 19:08

I have 4 children, and left a DV relationship 3 years ago, 3 months pregnant. I did so when he started on the children, which was triggered by my last pregnancy.
Leaving was hard, I had to play the game to get him to leave. Total mind games. What followed was horrendous and I needed a lot of mental health support. It was the right thing but I'm shell shocked and will never be the same again, I'm dead inside.
What nobody tells you is how it is shit afterwards as well. There has been no golden future out the other side. I struggle through each day. I have had to give up my career this week and leave a job to go on benefits.
I have no friends. Because I'm always caring for the children.
I have no bedroom, because I'm overcrowded. I daren't leave them with a babysitter because they've already been abused in their own home and they are scared. Social services cannot offer support, neither can schools.
Now I've got his whole family messaging and ringing me constantly berating me for not letting him talk to the children.
After leaving I waited for the relief to come. It never did and life is just as hard now and always will be. My son tells his teachers his dad is an abuser. He has been left with anger problems. I'm dealing with an aftermath I have no clue what to do with.
I will never have a new partner, or a life in anyway. My ex is a bastard, but life without him is also shit. I'm the enemy to everyone.
Fuck it all.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 10/11/2018 19:12

I am sorry. Life sounds very hard at the moment. Please hang in there. You have given your children a very precious thing: a life without violence. Be proud of yourself for that.

Purpleisthenewblue1 · 10/11/2018 19:16
Flowers
RaymondinaReddington · 10/11/2018 19:17

Hi, well done for taking the brave action you did. Things will get better. It can take a while but one day you will look back on this and be amazed it is over. Try to focus on the fact that now you all have a future to hope and fight for.

branchline · 10/11/2018 19:17

Oh wow what a shitty place you are in.
In your head......
Because you, my love, are a hero.
You are brave and strong and when you could you took your children to a safe place.
Things are hard now and have been for a long long time, but they are a hell of a lot beeter than if you had stayed. NEVER EVER FORGET THIS.

I hope you and your beautiful family grow and learn how to be happy together.
Sending you a huge hug.
Respect. X

BifsWif · 10/11/2018 19:19

I am sorry Flowers.

3 years isn’t long at all, be kind to yourself. You did an incredible thing in putting your children first, they are safe because of you. Wishing you all a happier future x

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 19:19

Thanks.
I'm getting flashbacks of morning sickness because this month is the time it escalated. I can't remember it but I feel it.
It's been a bomb gone off and I can't rebuild anything. Some days all I can do is tread water. It is having to give up my loved job which has gutted me. I feel like my future has gone.

OP posts:
strawberryredhead · 10/11/2018 19:23

What you went through was so traumatic. No wonder you feel totally broken. Do you still get any counselling or anything? It feels bad now but I don’t think it will always feel so bad. Things can change. You rescued your kids, you are amazing Flowers

Transpeaked · 10/11/2018 19:25

Yup. It’s horrendous. I ended up on antidepressants and had a breakdown. SS swooped in, took my children and gave them to their abusive fathers whom they see to be thoroughly top blokes and I’m horribly mentally unwell despite MH professionals telling them otherwise. My life is destroyed

VioletCharlotte · 10/11/2018 19:31

I so sorry you're going through this. Just wanted to say that I've been where you are so totally understand what you're going through. But hang in in there. It does get better and you will be happy again 

Hazardswan · 10/11/2018 19:31

Treading water is an achievement steak

You've been incredible. You and your kids are enough. There will be light to the end of this tunnel I promise.

Transpeaked · 10/11/2018 19:32

I’d highly recommend finding a good counsellor ad paying for sessions, if you can. Also, The Freedom Programme is excellent.

Sally2791 · 10/11/2018 19:37

So sorry for all your pain. Well done for doing the right thing and getting your children and yourself out of a DV situation. Life is constantly changing please take care of yourself and I wish you a much brighter future

PearlandRubies194 · 10/11/2018 19:42

@Steakandkidney,

So sorry you’re feeling like this. I wish I was near to you to pop over with a bottle of wine, an in-MN hug and a few hours of putting the world right. This time of year makes it all harder emotionally, too.

I’m currently in the bath having escaped to have a cry; I was reading the Christmas thread and welled up thinking how shit it’s going to be here this year. Even though I was in a refuge this time some years back.

I left my ex six years ago - SIX! We were moved between many refuges because of his controlling, sexual, emotional abuse but he actually became worse after I left. And this increased over the years; so it was actually better whilst I was with him. Sometimes I think if I’d known it would be this hard, this lonely - I’d never have left. Because there were happy times then, he was my best friend. Or I stupidly felt he was.

Since we left, I had 11 months of Court hearings because he said I was too unstable to be a mother, very malicious behaviour. My own family took his side. My own mother didn’t even send a text the whole 11 months of the court hearings, never visited or rang us whilst we were in refuge - but she and my sisters would go to his house for a tea and chat!

Over the last few years, he’s had many relationships which didn’t last long. Each time he’d lose interest in the DC because the latest woman (and her children) was everything. He wouldn’t turn up to contact, wouldn’t pay maintenance, go for months without any contact.... and all the while I put myself through University, worked and raised the children in a new county without any support. Housework, poorly children, cooking, studying, school stuff - he’s never been there.

Now, he’s drinking heavily and suffers with anxiety and depression. He blames me, even though the last time he turned up for handover he was drunk? His family blame me for his mental health, my family even blame me for his mental health and say I should be ashamed of myself for taking the children away.

They even know about such incidents as when he raped me when I was pregnant - but still, my fault. Very toxic family and ex. He writes about me on his Facebook which is humiliating. I don’t rise to it but it’s hard.

I feel dead inside, angry, bitter, hurt, betrayed... I’ll never be able to have a relationship again because there’s just too much baggage and hurt. I’m mid 30s and broken. I read the lovely posts on Christmas threads about how all the family get together, traditions, lovely food and drink. It’s just me and my youngest this year as my eldest couldn’t cope with things and left to live with his gran. If it wasn’t for my daughter I wouldn’t want to get out of bed.

You’re not alone, I wish I could say things will get better. I can’t wait until Christmas is over - I know it’s going to get worse over the next few weeks when my family will come out of the woodwork and shower the kids with gifts but they’ve not been around the whole year or any time I’ve needed them.

I hope 2019 will be kinder to you.

gendercritter · 10/11/2018 19:49

I'm sorry op. It sounds hugely tough. You've done a very brave thing and you deserve a huge pat on the back for that.

I can only say my life experience has shown me that things can be awful for a prolonged period of time and still turn around completely. I can't believe some of the positive changes in my life over the past year after 25 really battering ones. I simply never expected them and yet here they are and I'm getting a little slice of happiness at long last. Where there is life there is hope. Sometimes you have to wait a long time for that to happen and it isn't fair but keep going for now. Look for any small ways to find a bit of happiness or joy for yourselves because the small things can make a difference.

apintofharpandapacketofdates · 10/11/2018 19:55

Bent. Not broken.

You're bruised and traumatised. I am still in that phase too. I find it hard to see how I haven't ruined my kid's lives a lot of the time.

Thing is, objectively speaking, I'm their rock, their safe place, their constant.

Far better that than their waste of space of a father. You're teaching them that shitty treatment is not ok. You're teaching them self-respect. You're teaching them to be resilient.

Every day you are getting stronger. You just cant see it yet. Reframing finishing your job as a career break. You CAN go back, you WILL find a way.

Much love.OP X

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 19:59

Thank you all.
I had psychosis and was given psychology, it was helpful but she did say I'd have to find a new normal, that it isn't possible to go back.
I have read the freedom programme book.
The thing is, I question myself. For years there was a cycle of me being traumatised, mentally ill and thinking it was awful. I would leave, then he would be lovely and I'd think my perceptions were wrong. Then it would get worse again, usually coinciding with a pregnancy. Even now, I'm looking back thinking 'was it just me'? Except now I have objective markers. I need reparative surgery. My kids reports. But mostly the feelings of fear and terror that come from that time and make their way into now.

I'm sorry to hear others have had similar, or worse. @Transpeaked that's horrendous and I'm so sorry. @PearlandRubies194 thank you for your story. Nobody bothered with us either, no texts, no phone calls, nothing. I also spent a year in B and B's and a refuge, when I only had 2 children. Then I went back. I also left after 3, for good. Then he would sit and cry in front of his family that he missed the kids (shit dad never did anything with them) so I felt I had to do it. I'm going to invite a single woman I know around for Christmas, she hates it.

Sometimes it doesn't seem too bad when I can think that they're all like that so it isn't anything exceptionally bad. Then like today, I go to my daughter's brownie concert and all the dads are helping their cubs and beaver sons, and actually, ya know, being decent human beings. That is so alien to me that I don't know why I never had the chance to experience it.

I'm lucky that he lives abroad, so there are no custody battles. No maintenance either, another benefit of being a total cunt of a person.

OP posts:
NotTheFordType · 10/11/2018 20:01

OP and all those others feeling so low, Flowers and metaphorical hugs.

Xmas is a hard time. I'm no contact with most of my abusive family so it's just me and adult DS. We usually plan our day well in advance and fill out the whole day with food (prep and eating), caring for our pets, watching things on Netflix that we've been saving. This year we don't have much disposable cash so presents will be limited to a tenner max, but that's not really important.

It's been hard to let go of the dream of having a "big family Xmas" like when I was a nipper. Xmas at my Grandma's was legendary. I always wanted to have children and start a legacy of wonderful Christmases like she did. But my life just hasn't worked out like that.

As a PP said, OP you have done the best thing for your DC by removing them from harm. Your family are clearly abusive and it's not unusual for children from abusive birth families to then choose an abusive partner - it feels familiar, plus you've always been told you're worth very little.

You will get through this and things will improve. If nothing else your DC will grow older and not need so much care and you'll be able to get back to work.

From your post I do think you may have PTSD. Mental health services in the NHS are on their fucking knees right now but if you're able to access any free help via Rape Crisis or Womens Aid then please do so. You deserve to feel better than this.

PearlandRubies194 · 10/11/2018 20:08

The concerts are brutal aren’t they? As are sports days, parents’ evenings and so on. Wonderful fathers glowing with pride and love - and you think “why the fuck can’t I have that”... I hear you!

Such a good idea to invite the single woman over, I’m sure she’ll be so grateful. I’ve got a scooter for my daughter so we can go out on the day and break it up, then I’m planning on having a Baileys and a good cry when she’s in bed.

Don’t think of your career as being over, as a PP says - think of it as a break. It’s not forever.

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 20:08

Thanks Ford.
I have had access to the best treatment team. I see the psychiatrist next week.
I have a worker at our local DV service which has been slow in coming because we are out of danger. I'm going to access counselling but they also offer a family worker to help us learn a new way of living as a family.
It's the job I'm bothered by, my last thing left, but life will be easier. I used to have so much energy, but it's gone.

OP posts:
PearlandRubies194 · 10/11/2018 20:10

@Transpeaked so sorry to hear your situation.

I had three mental health professionals agree that my depression was due to the DV but he still refers to me as a psycho. It took over a year for them to be removed from the At Risk register, traumatic.

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 21:36

I agree Pearl that dealing with SS is incredibly stressful, and almost retraumatising. That being said I appreciate that they are there to protect our children so it is a good thing, even if it doesn't seem it.

OP posts:
April2020mom · 10/11/2018 21:45

You can do this. It seems like you have undiagnosed mental health problems. NHS mental health support is not up to par so I suggest finding out about private mental health services. Also I recommend seeing a decent therapist or counsellor in the area.
My therapist was a lifesaver when I needed it the most. It helped having someone unrelated yet qualified who could always lift me up and talk to each week. Seriously.

chickenloverwoman · 10/11/2018 22:08

Another one wondering if you have PTSD here, I was diagnosed with c PTSD due to my abusive childhood and first marriage, even though I escaped more than 45 years ago. I have had six months of councelling via Rape Crisis who have been wonderful. It allowed me to talk through my father and first husbands abuse. Also do the Freedom Programme, it's wonderful.
Huge hugs xxx

Steakandkidney · 10/11/2018 22:24

Perhaps.
I do find it hard to stay 'present'. I just feel voided of any emotion. I can't store any memories or anything. My youngest child's date of birth doesn't stay in my head and I have to write it down as I can't recall it.

OP posts:
gendercritter · 10/11/2018 22:42

Yes that sounds very much like PTSD. There is some good help out there for that - EMDR might really help you.