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Sister made demands at nieces wedding

69 replies

Risinup · 04/11/2018 13:39

My daughter got married recently. She's nearly 30, lived with her partner and they paid for their own wedding. They both decided to have a child free reception although children would be welcome to the ceremony and in the official photographs. They wanted a fun, party style reception and thought adults would have more fun without having to worry about their kids.
Our rather large extended family has always invited all and sundry to every event so I expected there would be a few unhappy people. I let them all know personally a year out that kids would not be invited to the reception.
My sister was absolutely livid. She had a 8 year old daughter and she insisted her daughter must be invited to the reception.
I let her know that even the grooms 3 nephews were not coming or my husbands nieces but she said she didn't care. They weren't as close as her daughter was. I tried reasoning with her and reminding her that my daughter was actually very close to my husbands nieces but she refused to accept this. She said I should "make" my daughter listen to me and invite her 8 year old cousin. I told my sister another 13 children weren't invited as well. My sister said she didn't care and her daughter was important and that's how things have always been in our family. I agreed that more often then not that was true which is why I was giving her a years notice. She refused to back down and we didn't speak about it again and I hoped she'd cooled down and accepted it.
My daughter sent out invites and got every rsvp but my sisters. I called her up to ask if she was coming and she said yes. So great huh?
Meanwhile it began to get back to me that she had been complaining to all our extended family for the last year and my mum even asked me to "tell" my daughter that she had to invite my sisters child. I even did ask my daughter to consider inviting all the children just to smooth things over. We couldn't just invite my sisters child as that would make all the other parents, who had older children and been very good about it, feel left out. My daughter thought about it but ultimately said it wasn't what they both wanted for their wedding and truthfully the restaurant was too small for another 2 tables to be added to accomodate 14 children.
Week before the wedding I called my sister and she began to have a go about her daughter missing out and refused to listen when I reminded her it was not her wedding and we were supporting the bride and groom who had decided this after putting a lot of thought into it.
Day of the wedding arrived. Sister made a scene during the photos and stormed off saying if her daughter wasn't there she wasn't going to be in the photo. I told her several times over the past year that her daughter was welcome to come to the ceremony and be in photos. Sister didn't come near me or my husband even though we had sat them on the main table with us and our mum and siblings. She played on her phone during the reception and then had a loud argument with her partner outside which 15 guests witnessed. Then she and partner left early without even saying goodbye.
She made my husband and I feel so miserable on one of the happiest occasions of our life. We have basically not spoken to them since as she feels she is fully justified and my extended family are backing her indirectly by agreeing that her daughter should have been there as it's what "always happens" and the bride should have invited them.
Am I totally wrong to be fed up with her and her behaviour? I basically have very little interaction with any of my family now as when we are all together it's very awkward

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TheFaerieQueene · 04/11/2018 13:44

I would let her stew. It was your daughter and son in law’s choice. This is their day, but your sister made it all about her. She doesn’t sound very nice at all and I would keep her at arms length.

dontalltalkatonce · 04/11/2018 13:50

Don't let her bully your daughter.

JeanPagett · 04/11/2018 13:52

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of not inviting kids (although I think it's entirely up to the bride and groom), causing a scene at her niece's wedding was unacceptable. If she wasn't able to behave civilly she should have politely declined the invitation. I would be furious.

letsdolunch321 · 04/11/2018 13:55

She sounds such a lovey person. I would go NC, she needs to get her head out of her arse and see it from your daughters point of view.

Witchofzog · 04/11/2018 14:01

Your sister is an entitled spoilt cow and it sounds as though some of your family pander to her every whim. She basically cast a shadow over your daughters wedding because she didn't get her own way. Who the hell does this?

I am sure there will be lots of similar responses to mine and I would be sorely tempted to show her this thread once it fills up a bit more

bastardkitty · 04/11/2018 14:03

I'm not a fan of child-free weddings - perhaps you're not either OP - but your sister's behaviour was appalling. Leave her to it and don't engage.

mindutopia · 04/11/2018 14:09

It’s a bit weird to invite children for part of the day, but then say they have to leave. I do sort of hate this whole “but we feel like our guests would enjoy themselves more in the evening without their children.” It’s fine to just say children aren’t invited because we don’t want them there. As a parent l can decide for myself if it’s better for me to have my children in tow. I don’t need anyone’s permission to get a babysitter. But that said, child free weddings are totally fine and your sister should have respected that. I’ve not been able to attend several because we don’t have anyone who could help us with childcare (these were child free destination weddings, who can find someone who isn’t family to just take their kids for 3 days?!?). But that’s life and I totally respect their choice. It’s no excuse for being a prat.

underneaththeash · 04/11/2018 14:12

I am a fan of child-free weddings, they're much more relaxing for everyone.

I'd leave her alone for a while too.

RangeRider · 04/11/2018 14:16

Your sister is an entitled spoilt cow and it sounds as though some of your family pander to her every whim
This ^^. She had plenty of notice (and then some) but wanted her own way. She owes you & your daughter an apology

Maelstrop · 04/11/2018 14:16

What a cow. Making a scene and persisting with what she wants up to and including the day is really shitty. I’d be holding that against her forever more, such a crap thing to do. It doesn’t matter what usually happens, your daughter decided to have HER wedding HER way and nobody had the right to insist otherwise. What an absolute disgrace your sister is and what a disgrace that other family members are backing her up. How the wedding was organised was nothing to do with anyone but your dd and her dh.

Gemini69 · 04/11/2018 14:21

I prefer child free Weddings.. ignore all them OP.. it's done.. go NC Flowers

category12 · 04/11/2018 14:22

Wow.

Gingerlover2 · 04/11/2018 14:26

Agree, child free weddings are so much more relaxed. Don't get me wrong, I love kids but I've been to a couple this year as it seems to be becoming more popular and it really does have a different feel.

As with so many things these days, 'this is the way it's always been' isn't a good enough reason to not think outside the box.

I bet lots of couples smile inwardly when they see there is a no children at the reception rule, because it means they can have a bloody good time, which in the end, is what weddings are supposed to be about, not keeping little Oliver from poking his finger in the wedding cake and little Olivia from poking her cousins eyes out Grin

My family had a similar situation a few years back where my sister, who isn't popular for several reasons, wasn't invited to our step sisters, daughters very small wedding. I being the other step sister wasn't invited either and completely understood why. My Mother kicked off a huge family row that really tore the family apart and it's only now things are relatively calm. There is always one person who seems to think their feelings outweigh the Bride and Groom, so you're not alone.

So, you're absolutely entitled to feel upset. Try not to dwell on it too much and concentrate on the relationships in your life that fulfil you

IwantedtobeEmmaPeel · 04/11/2018 14:27

Your sister sounds like a spoilt, bullying brat. What sort of person tries to ruin their neice's wedding? I would continue keeping her at arm's length and don't have any contact with her or your extended family unless absolutely necessary. They are all loop the bloody loop if they think her behaviour was in any way acceptable.

Jux · 04/11/2018 14:27

Treat her as the Mad Woman of The Family, don't take her and her histrionics seriously. When it comes just eye roll and say "well, she would make a fuss, wouldn't she?", "omg, is she still going on about that?", tinkly laugh, or similar, and leave it.

Why are things awkward with your wider family? They all accepted it at the time, it's over and done now. Does your sister usually like feeling injured?

BackforGood · 04/11/2018 14:27

Your sister is an entitled spoilt cow and it sounds as though some of your family pander to her every whim
This . She had plenty of notice (and then some) but wanted her own way. She owes you & your daughter an apology

Seconded.
Your sister sounds incredibly immature and rude.
Am surprised none of the rest of your family haven't pulled her up on it.

SassitudeandSparkle · 04/11/2018 14:28

Well she shouldn't have made a scene, no doubt about that.

But - it does seem terribly rude to me to invite children to the ceremony and photographs but not the reception! If anyone did that, they wouldn't have time to take the children home themselves, what did you expect them to do - wave the children off from the church?. Also, not nice to say they'd enjoy the reception more without the children - that's for your guests to decide. The B&G meant they would enjoy the reception more without children! They need to own it not pass the buck.

The other difficulty here is that your family as a whole seem displeased with the lack of invites for children so are quietly backing your sister rather than you. I'm also getting a slight sense of guilt from you that children were not invited which might be why you feel that your sister's behaviour overshadowed the day for you - you still had a good day, your DD is married, that side of things is good. Focus on that if you can.

It's a shame that your family are making you carry the can for your DD's decision.

Kahlua4me · 04/11/2018 14:30

Your sister’s behaviour is appalling, it is not her wedding nor is she paying so has no choice or say in who is invited.

Personally, I was delighted when DS came to the ceremony and photos at a wedding and was then collected by my parents as we could then relax, chat and dance without having to worry about him.

Sisterlove · 04/11/2018 14:32

Your sister behaved badly. I'd be unimpressed with her personally.

Feefeetrixabelle · 04/11/2018 14:36

Is your sister used to getting her own way? Your daughter standing up to her is epic of her and this tantrum was just her realising that she doesn’t have her dancing to her beat. Was your daughter bothered by her reaction?

OlennasWimple · 04/11/2018 14:36

Well, nothing can turn back time and create a wedding where your niece can attend and your sister is happy. Focus on moving forward

NotTheFordType · 04/11/2018 14:36

Why on earth didn't your daughter (or you, if you were shielding your daughter from all this drama) uninvite the bitch?

OlennasWimple · 04/11/2018 14:37

Personally, I was delighted when DS came to the ceremony and photos at a wedding and was then collected by my parents as we could then relax, chat and dance without having to worry about him

This doesn't really work at family weddings, where most relatives are also attending the wedding...

TheDodgyDunnyOfDoom · 04/11/2018 14:37

Do nothing. Certainly don't apologise or interact with these ghastly entitled people. Things will calm down eventually. The thing people don't get about weddings is that it's the choice of the bride and groom and if you don't like it you can chuffing well stay away. Moaning about it is so pathetic.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/11/2018 14:37

Am I totally wrong to be fed up with her and her behaviour?

No, you're not. I imagine there's quite a back story of your family pandering to this deeply selfish woman, but overall it doesn't matter what's "always been done" - this was their wedding which they paid for and it was therefore their decision to make

FWIW I believe there's far too much "could I just ... ?" and expecting exceptions to be made over weddings. For me, unless it's something truly exceptional, you either accept an invitation in all its parts or not at all - and you certainly don't throw a strop at someone else's event

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