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Sister made demands at nieces wedding

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Risinup · 04/11/2018 13:39

My daughter got married recently. She's nearly 30, lived with her partner and they paid for their own wedding. They both decided to have a child free reception although children would be welcome to the ceremony and in the official photographs. They wanted a fun, party style reception and thought adults would have more fun without having to worry about their kids.
Our rather large extended family has always invited all and sundry to every event so I expected there would be a few unhappy people. I let them all know personally a year out that kids would not be invited to the reception.
My sister was absolutely livid. She had a 8 year old daughter and she insisted her daughter must be invited to the reception.
I let her know that even the grooms 3 nephews were not coming or my husbands nieces but she said she didn't care. They weren't as close as her daughter was. I tried reasoning with her and reminding her that my daughter was actually very close to my husbands nieces but she refused to accept this. She said I should "make" my daughter listen to me and invite her 8 year old cousin. I told my sister another 13 children weren't invited as well. My sister said she didn't care and her daughter was important and that's how things have always been in our family. I agreed that more often then not that was true which is why I was giving her a years notice. She refused to back down and we didn't speak about it again and I hoped she'd cooled down and accepted it.
My daughter sent out invites and got every rsvp but my sisters. I called her up to ask if she was coming and she said yes. So great huh?
Meanwhile it began to get back to me that she had been complaining to all our extended family for the last year and my mum even asked me to "tell" my daughter that she had to invite my sisters child. I even did ask my daughter to consider inviting all the children just to smooth things over. We couldn't just invite my sisters child as that would make all the other parents, who had older children and been very good about it, feel left out. My daughter thought about it but ultimately said it wasn't what they both wanted for their wedding and truthfully the restaurant was too small for another 2 tables to be added to accomodate 14 children.
Week before the wedding I called my sister and she began to have a go about her daughter missing out and refused to listen when I reminded her it was not her wedding and we were supporting the bride and groom who had decided this after putting a lot of thought into it.
Day of the wedding arrived. Sister made a scene during the photos and stormed off saying if her daughter wasn't there she wasn't going to be in the photo. I told her several times over the past year that her daughter was welcome to come to the ceremony and be in photos. Sister didn't come near me or my husband even though we had sat them on the main table with us and our mum and siblings. She played on her phone during the reception and then had a loud argument with her partner outside which 15 guests witnessed. Then she and partner left early without even saying goodbye.
She made my husband and I feel so miserable on one of the happiest occasions of our life. We have basically not spoken to them since as she feels she is fully justified and my extended family are backing her indirectly by agreeing that her daughter should have been there as it's what "always happens" and the bride should have invited them.
Am I totally wrong to be fed up with her and her behaviour? I basically have very little interaction with any of my family now as when we are all together it's very awkward

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/11/2018 16:36

It wasn't no child.

It was yes children for the ceremony and photographs please and then arrange for them to be magicked away.

I think that's shitty -

It should have been yes kids or no kids full stop rather than making parents get kids all up ready done up for wedding etc and then having to leave halfway through to remove the kids to ? where and what distance it sounds like a right PITA TBH.

We probably wouldn't have gone.

I'm not excusing the sister behaviour at all but the arrangements sound like a massive PITA - and to say yes we want your kids to look lovely in the pics but then remove them leaves a bad taste for me.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/11/2018 16:36

It wasn't no child.

It was yes children for the ceremony and photographs please and then arrange for them to be magicked away.

I think that's shitty -

It should have been yes kids or no kids full stop rather than making parents get kids all up ready done up for wedding etc and then having to leave halfway through to remove the kids to ? where and what distance it sounds like a right PITA TBH.

We probably wouldn't have gone.

I'm not excusing the sister behaviour at all but the arrangements sound like a massive PITA - and to say yes we want your kids to look lovely in the pics but then remove them leaves a bad taste for me.

Dollymixture22 · 04/11/2018 16:44

How embarrassing for your daughter. Such a poor display from her aunt.

How dare she try to dictate the guest list for someone else’s wedding.

This lady owes your daughter a heart felt apology.

Jux · 04/11/2018 16:50

Family weddings with children and babies are definitely the norm in my family. There was one where children were not invited. On that occasion, all of us with children got together, organised a few baby-sitters, arranged for them all to go to a nearby relative's house and for all the children (about 25, aged from baby up to 15) to be cared for there. One fairly rich cousin hired a bouncy castle, another sorted out a load of dvds and craft stuff and we all chipped in for food. I think a guy in the village brought his donkey round for a little while too!

The older children helped look after the younger, the oldest paired with the youngest, next oldest with next youngest etc so each child had either a special responsibility or a special helper - incidentally, those paired relationships have remained close even now and the youngest is in her late 20s!

They all had sleeping bags and kipped down on the floor! (The baby was picked up fairly early in the evening though.)

Imagination and a bit of extra effort makes child-free weddings OK, and there can be advantages for the children too.

Angelcd · 04/11/2018 16:54

Its up to the bride & groom what they want it is their day.children dont enjoy weddings its boring for them any way.
Your sister needs to grow up she should be ashamed of herself x

WitchyMcWitchface · 04/11/2018 16:59

For goodness sake. It's one wedding. The problem was you being piggy in the middle. It wasn't for you to argue on behalf of anyone.

Now just brazen it out and pretend it didn't happen or if it did it is in the past and you are not going to be punished for someone else's huff. Carry on regardless, no one has died, it is ridiculous pettiness.

Lizzie48 · 04/11/2018 18:14

I do sort of hate this whole “but we feel like our guests would enjoy themselves more in the evening without their children.”

I agree, I don't like this way of putting it either. If you don't want children at your wedding just say that it's child free, it's the bride and groom's decision. Don't dress it up like you're doing your guests a favour.

Having said that, your sister's behaviour is totally unacceptable and I'm sorry you've been caught in the middle the way you have.

Lovethesun100 · 04/11/2018 18:16

Flowers feel so so sorry for you being stuck in the middle of this saga. We have a similar situation in our family with me being made to scapegoat although none of it was my decision and sadly our lovely family never be the same again Sad

Livpool · 04/11/2018 21:11

I love weddings when children are included, and was happy to have lots at ours. However, this was your daughter'a wedding = her choice. Your sister is a cow and is making it all about her.

Either go or don't go but it is NOT your day xx

GabsAlot · 04/11/2018 21:28

its her choice if she wanted trained chimps there

i dont like theidea of yes we'll have them for photos but then they go away though

anniehm · 04/11/2018 21:51

Your sister was wrong to behave like that however if a family member invited us to a wedding when the kids were too young to stay home alone I would have politely refused stating we cannot come - family weddings should include kids imho (work colleagues etc is different, I don't expect an invite for dh for them either). We have lots of non English friends who have got married and they were aghast that weddings exclude kids - they invite our kids always.

Making a scene is never ok though, just don't go.

Risinup · 20/07/2019 13:00

We didn't actually invite children to the ceremony at all as such but as sister was making a fuss about kid missing out on being in family photos I said she could certainly attend the ceremony and photos session if they wanted her in photos. They refused this as they wanted her at reception. They have no problem with baby sitters as they leave their kid constantly when ever they can. Invites were certainly adults only

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TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease · 20/07/2019 13:07

You started a thread in early November, and despite plenty of replies, didn't bother to answer until late July the following year?

Nautiloid · 20/07/2019 13:13

The only thing that seems unreasonable to me re your DD is her idea that she was doing people a favour by having a child free wedding. That's a load of rubbish.

That said, her wedding, her choice. Your sister behaved pathetically. I'd definitely be keeping my distance.

Rachelover40 · 20/07/2019 14:13

Your sister is batshit, op. Many people don't have children at a wedding. So what? She should have just accepted it. I can't believe she takes her daughter to every wedding she is invited to.

Teddybear45 · 20/07/2019 14:19

Not inviting the children of family to your wedding is a selfish brattish thing to do, but so is making a scene at a wedding. Your dd clearly takes after your sister. I hope your DD is able to accept the backlash regarding this from the extended family.

GreenTulips · 20/07/2019 14:28

To be fair you put yourself in the firing line the minute you started with excuses

It’s fine to say No she’s not invited to the party, you should’ve left it there

BackforGood · 20/07/2019 14:29

Is this still rumbling on in your family ?

Seems odd to pick it up again 7 months on ?

RonnieScotts · 20/07/2019 14:34

Your DSis has as childish as an 8YO and I wouldn't be inviting her anywhere again after that behaviour!

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