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Is he into me or not?

96 replies

HelpMeMakeSense · 20/10/2018 14:45

NC, been here for a while now, but since I may prove to be totally naive I thought I'd stay anon for this one.

I've met a guy at work. I haven't worked at the place for long and he's always stuck out a bit for some reason or another. There is a 10-year age gap between us (I'm mid-30s, he is mid-40s) and we are at very different stages in our lives.

We recently were due to have a work do and since we live quite close to each other, I offered to drive, so got his number for that purpose. We then started talking quite a bit during shared lunch times and after work as we work on several projects (together, but independently of each other, if that makes sense).

He is quite a reserved type. I know he is single and has recently gone through a rather shitty patch in life, although I get the impression that he has not been in a long-term (or any) relationship in a good while. He has talked to me quite a bit about his work-related past, some of which was reasonably confidential. He has also alluded to a few things going on in his private life, although he is yet to go into any sort of detail of his past, but he has talked about some things he has going on, which are making his life currently quite stressful. Like I said, he is quite reserved in general.

I have been openly flirtatious a few times. His body language tells me that he responds; his eyes triangulate mine and my mouth, he can mirror me quite a bit, but he stays outwardly neutral, does not flirt back, but also does not in any way suggest that he minds how I act with him. If anything, it's like he doesn't know how to respond.

So far I could be imagining things, of course. Part of me thinks I might, because our work do was cancelled at short notice and I offered that we go out regardless and he rejected my offer saying he wasn't feeling well. But then he stayed behind at work for an extra hour and a half that same day as the two of us got talking, even though he had no reason to (I did - I was waiting for a colleague to finish a phone call to a client as I needed to make a similar call myself before the end of the day). There was no one else to talk to and every time he made a move to pack up and go he seemed to think better of it and made himself comfortable again to talk to me some more.

Text messages were initiated by me so far, although he told me at one point to "keep it up and we will get on grand". And while he did not go out with me, he suggested we all get together next week instead. I then said I'd like to see him one-to-one at some point, too; it's nicer to talk that way and he agreed.

He gives off the impression that he is a very private type. He is certainly introverted and admits as much; even said to me that he needs alone time all the time at home and otherwise cannot function.

He may be painfully shy. He gives off the air that someone has royally fucked him over at some point in his life. He clearly responds well to me and he initiates coversation quite a bit, always remembering details of our last conversation.

But the jury is out - is he actually into me? I don't want to be too blunt with him right now. He knows we both have very different lives right now. I don't want to scare him away by coming on too strongly too fast, but I cannot stop thinking about him and it's driving me crazy.

What do mumsnet think?

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HelpMeMakeSense · 20/10/2018 17:17

Do you unconsciously go for guys who need saving?

There is a lot of truth in this statement and don't think I haven't considered that. However, for the moment he just seems like a nice guy. Quite a change from my past.

And to put it bluntly, many unattached people at his age come with a bit of an uncomfortable history.

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HelpMeMakeSense · 20/10/2018 17:18

He would not make an ideal husband or father of your children.

I don't think I want to get married or have more children.

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SendintheArdwolves · 20/10/2018 17:19

So are people with anxiety and depression not worth being in a relationship with?

Oh, come on. No one said that and you know it.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 20/10/2018 17:19

At least find somebody who actually wants to be in a romantic relationship with you, not somebody you have to coerce and jolly along into it.

I don't think you're going to listen to anybody who doesn't tell you what you want to hear, OP. The 'thanks for your opinions so far' is very telling.

Posters here have more respect for you than to pat you on the head and say "Go for it, hun, he really, really likes you", because from what you've said (and you're the only person who knows), he really is doing all he can to put you off without having to tell you straight.

You're going to come off worst because you can't make this happen by yourself. Your 'racing heart and butterflies' are based on your attraction to him, but it's one-sided, isn't it? Accept that, enjoy the thrill - and back off.

Justtickingboxes · 20/10/2018 17:21

From my experience, when I bend down to "rescue" someone, I get kicked in the teeth! Not worth it imo. You are still young and the world is your oyster. Don't settle for people who clearly cannot give you a equal relationship and need all your attention to deal with their issues. Life is too short but the days are too long xxx

HollowTalk · 20/10/2018 17:22

I wouldn't want to go out with someone who rarely smiles, for one thing. Can you imagine how depressing that would be?

I agree that he doesn't seem into you, but it's very clear he knows you fancy him. Why are you doing this to yourself?

Who knows what kind of game he's playing over turning you down but staying late to chat to you? The fact is that if he wanted to go out with you then he would've jumped at the chance when you asked him out. He didn't. You don't want someone who's halfhearted about you.

Are you used to always having a man in your life? Do you struggle without one?

SendintheArdwolves · 20/10/2018 17:28

It doesn't matter whether he is the perfect guy for you or whether you are wildly unsuited - the fact is, he doesn't seem interested.

You flirt with him - he doesn't respond
You ask him out one on one - he turns you down and instead organises a team outing
He talks almost entirely about work and only "alludes" to his personal life
When you say how much you'd like to also go out with just him, he nods and smiles, and then doesn't make any overtures to make it happen.

You are very attracted to him, and so you don't want to hear any of his polite refusals. I am worried this is going to get awkward for him as you trample on his boundaries in an effort to get things started.

Justtickingboxes · 20/10/2018 17:29

He would also make a dreadful fling...and an awful ex, with all these issues

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 20/10/2018 17:32

I agree with that, Hollow and I also wondered if the man is playing out his 'revenge' on the OP in place of the person who (OP says), "... royally fucked him over at some point in his life". He can't take it out on them so he can soothe his ego with OP. Not fair.

OP, I look at people when I talk to them. I smile a lot. I don't fancy them. Just because I'm animated sometimes, it's the subject I'm talking about that does it, not the audience. I might enjoy engaging with them. I'm doing my job.

I feel a bit uncomfortable with your insistence on seeing 'love light' in this man's eyes. If it were a man posting about fancying a woman who wasn't showing much interest, he'd be told in no uncertain terms. I'm not saying that you're doing anything like harassing him, but it would be a shame to overreach and turn this friendship sour. It sounds as if you and he have a friendly relationship. What's the rush? If there is something there, why not back off and let him make the next move (or not)?

Bacardibabe · 20/10/2018 17:35

He sounds like hard work tbh. It woukd be a one way relationship with you putting all the hard work in. He has more or less said he's a loner so I'd just stay friends.

cheeseoverchocolate · 20/10/2018 17:35

I think he likes you but is not in a position (emotionally) to get involved in a relationship. I would just stick to being friends for the time being. Who knows, it may one day evolve into something else but I would not build my hopes up.

MrsCar · 20/10/2018 17:39

Based on everything you've said, it doesn't sound like he's into you, or anyone (relationship wise)

owlshooting · 20/10/2018 17:44

Well, my take is different to most others here. It sounds to me like he is into you but is anxious and unsure of himself.

Why don't you suggest that the two of you do something together like go to a film , go to an exhibition, or something that you can talk about which means all the attention is not on each other? That might be a start. I think you maybe need to lay it on the table too - 'look, I'm interested in you, how do you feel? If you don't feel the same, that's fine. We'll just be good mates at work. Keep it light.
There are a lot of shy men out there that would not make the first move, even if they are interested. Especially if they've been hurt or are socially awkward. If you like him , you may have to do the running.

HelpMeMakeSense · 20/10/2018 18:04

Thank you again. It's a lot to think about.

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NotTheFordType · 20/10/2018 18:22

Jesus christ, STOP SEXUALLY HARRASSING HIM

HelpMeMakeSense · 20/10/2018 18:36

Wtf? Lol.

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Snappedandfarted2018 · 20/10/2018 18:50

It’s you making all the effort it’s very one sided and I would Imagine hes enjoying the attention but he is clearly doesn’t reciprocate the same feelings you do op.

SummerStrong · 20/10/2018 19:16

Perhaps when he turned down your invitation to go out he hadn't considered you may fancy him and didn't really know how he felt.

But has since started to develop feelings for you? Or at least started to consider a deeper friendship with you.

I think this is a very 'slow burner' and as long as you don't come on too strong something may come of this.

He may be difficult to have a relationship with though, distant and detached.

Bluntness100 · 20/10/2018 21:28

Why don't you suggest that the two of you do something together like go to a film , go to an exhibition, or something that you can talk about which means all the attention is not on each other

Seriously? When does it become harassment for you? She's asked him once. He said no, she asked him a second time, he said yes but failed to state a date, now you'd like her to ask him a third time?

In my view that's harassment. If this was a man to a woman people would be saying report him to hr.

Op, the ball is in his court, stop asking him to go out with you alone, you've said it for a second time, if he approaches you to organis it, then he's into you. But for the life of god, don't ask him. A third time. He's a work colleague, if he wished to see you he would.

CircleofWillis · 20/10/2018 21:55

Honestly, I think you should steer clear romantically until you get to know him a bit better. The trouble with quiet / withdrawn / silent people is that they can turn out to be pricks just as often as more extrovert people. It just takes longer to find it out.

Meanwhile you are busy assigning all sorts of positive attributes to someone you don’t really know

HelpMeMakeSense · 21/10/2018 08:43

No, I definitely won't ask him out again any time soon. But I may not have put this across very well yesterday; he is quite happy to answer any questions I ask and does not bring it all back to work immediately. But I'm not one to pry, either.

I guess you're right, there is no rush; we're both there to stay for a while and our shared projects will last at least another year.

There is a good reason he may be cautious, but that would be far too outing to go into on here.

But if it turns out to be a rejection, it's been the nicest one I've ever had Smile

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HelpMeMakeSense · 24/10/2018 17:46

Update: we are going out at the end of the week, just the two of us, after he made it abundantly clear that he didn't mind me asking and that I need to stop worrying so much about our interactions Grin.

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owlshooting · 24/10/2018 17:51

Great news! Hope you have a lovely time!

RTFT · 24/10/2018 18:11

Who asked who?

HelpMeMakeSense · 24/10/2018 19:27

Who asked who?

Well, after he told me to stop worrying so much and a few more interesting exchanges I saw no harm in confriming whether we were going for a drink after work this week.

He told me he was a very private person, but confirmed quite happily that I am far from being inappropriate or going too far in any way.

I do think he likes me quite a bit; the jury is still out on how much and in what way.

We are very different people and I don't think this will lead to a long-term relationship (who tf doesn't like pizza???), but I still wouldn't say no to exploring how far we can go.

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