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I need to leave partner...again! **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

80 replies

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 15:12

He has never given physical abuse, just verbally and emotionally
What I endure is mainly belittling me, criticising me, making me feel inadequate, demoralising me, making me feel worthless. the evil in his face as he snarls when he’s annoyed or angry at me makes my stomach in knots, and I shake with nerves.

He never ever compliments, but can quite easily criticise.

He has free reign to do what he wants, when he wants and with as much of his money as he wants, ( none of it is mine as he’s earned it.
But, As he is unable to read or write properly, can only just work his phone, doesn’t know how to use a computer, never done an email..hasn’t got one.
He makes a lot of money buying and selling cars. He buys the car and I take all pics, do all the descriptions, list them on multiple sites and answer and reply to all messages, he can’t even write a receipt out... but I do fuck all and don’t bring any money in (he keeps all the profit and I get paid £50 which gets spent on extra household bills.
the only money I am allowed is tax credits, which covers the weekly shopping, broadband bill, phone bill and 11yr sons expenses, School etc which happily for him has me penniless by the end of the week. Mortgage free, he pays the electric/gas/Water, Ctax/ and the car...
I take care of ‘his' house, his Kids, his meals, his washing and making his life as easy as possible, 'servicing his needs' when he wants regardless of what I need or want..

I fetch and carry, do whatever he tells me, go n get that, fetch me those etc etc.
run up stairs get me that...
Make me a brew.. make me another... put my flask up...
Will walk past his ‘made brew', sit down, and wait for me to pass it to him...
What’s that on the floor, have you cleaned today? (house is spotless)
Windows are filthy (grandsons handprints)
If I’ve not got round to hoovering all through (very rare as it gets hoovered every day) he’s huffin n puffing doing it himself, saying floors full of shit.
We all have to wait till he’s finished work, had a bath, gone back out again (to sort something or see someone) then when he’s ready I’m to make tea then so it’s freshly cooked? Usually 8 ish onwards.
I end up cooking twice so son can have his tea at a decent tea-time time. He doesn’t cook anything, never has....
All the above...Just to keep in good books with him

Lately I have been trying to stick up for myself, arguing back, he says the most hurtful things I know aren’t true, I end up so upset and frustrated because he won’t listen to any reasoning, just goes on to something else.. then the nutter words come out, then it’s all about me always being the same, a waste of space.(me screaming and crying how horrible he is to me is a sign of being mental and a nutter?)

I honestly don't think I can do any more or any better.

and I can finally say "its not me being over sensitive, its not me having a sense of humour failure. Its him being a controlling joy-sucking thoughtless bastard"

Only conversation we have is about money and 'him' earning all the money..
I find myself walking on eggshells everyday not knowing what mood he is in, or even trying my hardest not to put him in one!!
I live in his nice house, Drive his nice car, Have a holiday each year, the bills get paid and he is well off....
SO REALLY I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL ????? Oh and I’m on a good number ....

NARC...
Everyone of these is him...
Lack of empathy
Grandiosity - thinks they are terribly important and unique
Lack of accountability - blames everyone else for everything
Rage just beneath the surface
NEVER says sorry ever
Very exploitative of people in their life
Very little in the way of conscience - they are too special to adhere to normal codes of behaviour and morals
Hot and cold behaviour, push-pull dynamic
VERY controlling, they have to control anyone with whom they are personally involved with. Everything is on their terms
They expect compliance
Vengeful, vitriolic, spiteful
They have to win at all costs
Very manipulative
No real depth of feeling

He has always been very controlling. We watch what he wants to watch on the TV, his opinions are always right, nothing is ever good enough. The house is never tidy enough, the kids are never quiet enough, EVERYTHING is my fault. I have been reduced to a anxious, miserable, self doubting emotional mess. All locked away inside as I don’t show it..
It’s like an army/prison camp not a loving family home....and I’m literally his personal slave.
We’re both 49, 3 children (2 grown and 1 who’s 11
Spent 30 yrs together, left him in 2011 went back in 2016... first yr was good, then went down hill from then on and now back to ‘normal'
He isn’t diagnosed as a Narcissist, but from all these people’s posts. I know I have to leave for the final and very last time. I haven’t a pot to piss in, but I want peace and freedom, this is the only way left.
If any of the people on here previously, going through the same, please let me know and update your situations. All your posts are reassuring 💕

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hellsbellsmelons · 08/10/2018 15:25

Can you prove his earnings?
Do you have accounts for his business?
You will no doubt be far better off without him on a day to day basis.
Please have a chat with Womens Aid about all of this.
0808 2000 247
CAB - can also help you with things like, housing benefit.
He would need to pay for his DC.

Not sure if I missed it, but is he your husband?
Did you marry?
If so, then it is NOT his house.
You are entitled to half of all assets, cars, houses, pension, savings, bank accounts.
Start gathering information.

kidsneedfathers · 08/10/2018 16:02

kiragirl big hugs and hand holding dear .
hellbell gave you great advice. You should be entitled to half of all his wealth and to child allowance. Just leave him. Don't even try to make sense of his behavior-it might be a personality disorder or a damaged background or a patriarchal culture. ..this is not important. What is important is that you understand how GREAT you have been throughout this hell of a marriage. You are still very young. You have still a lot to look forward -you can enjoy your kids and greatchildren without the burden of having to clean all the time after them; you can organise your family life (bedtime/mealtime/outing etc) the best way for you and your kids and grandchildren..I am sure your kids will undrstabd. This will not impact the grown up and if anything it will have a positive effect on all your kids:they will understand that his behavior is wrong and must not be emulated. ...please get all the free advice you are entitled to so that you can get your fair share of his wealth and so you can start your finally free and independent life. Another thing: the title of your original post is misleading. When we read it we think that he is the one that is leaving again...rewrite it to read: how to leave a controlling ignorant misogynist and not be penniless...ladies more experienced and wiser than myself will help you .. holding your hands and big hugs... (don't give up ...)

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 16:02

Hellsbellsmelons... Hi,
No we never married, and I have never been on the deeds to the houses we’ve lived in... he is self employed and only earns ‘so much' to keep tax credits coming in, I know he earns a lot lot more, but they’re all cash in hand jobs... he doesn’t discuss how much to me and I don’t see it.
He has an accountant who tells him how much to earn and I have to fill the forms out accordingly. So low income means no Child maintenance, I’ve been down that path previously....
Yes I do have to get a plan into place, once again! It’s very early days n I’m just so numb at the moment, Spose be going on the yearly holiday next week abroad too, he says he ain’t going, n I have no back up money to go anyway, I just feel so guilty and useless for our boy who was excited to go 😞.
Thank you for the phone numbers, I will use them this week, just need a kick up the arse!

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 16:13

kidsneedfathers, Hi,
Just replied hellsbells.... I’ve not a leg to stand on!! He’s made sure of that, and unfortunately I’ve let him.
My older 2 kids are 25 and 28, After this last episode (I seem to break down every 4 months) they have said I need to go, and that he’s unliveable and unlovable.. there is so much I have to do n get n go etc my head hurts, while he can just sit back and watch me go and struggle.
I will leave, I know I have to but it’s hard n I’m so so tired 😓
Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement.
Ps How do I edit to change the title?

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kidsneedfathers · 08/10/2018 16:44

Hi dear! I don't know how to do that. You might write to the moderators to ask for help and you might just start a new post with a good heading, where you copy and paste this post and refer the readers to this one.... Now he is so nasty that I would have used nasty tactics with him...such as report him on an anonymous way to the Tax Revenue offices...explore this road please seriously that way it will be documented that he got a nice income and will have to pay you maintenance ..on a second thought: it is fraudulent...and you and his accountant have been helping him. So maybe the best way is just to go to the IR offices and incriminate him (and ask for protection and parole ) before doing anything ask for help/advice (social workers-anonymous call to IR or other bureaux from a public phone and ask all the relevant questions. Prepare a list. I am sure you can find good info online ... (BTW can your grown up kids help you leaving him for good? )

kidsneedfathers · 08/10/2018 16:57

Typo: not parole pardon * in fact they will be very understanding and forgive you....what a disgusting man! He will be caught one day or the other: nice house/nice car/yearly holidays abroad ..
But a very low income...that does not add up...

MrsRubyMonday · 08/10/2018 16:59

If you report your post the moderators can change the title for you. No advice, but I can see how strong you are, and how determined. You're doing the right thing, for you and your children. You're amazing.

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 17:14

I know the money situation is wrong, but from previous experience (it nearly killed me last time) it’s best for me to just concentrate on getting out.. he’s not as healthy as he was, n he’ll feel the loss of me not being there to comply to his every whim, command and order. his prison walls will come crashing down around him, he can hardly read or write, he can’t cook, lived off takeaways for 5 years n had to go to carveries and pub grub!! I was the backbone of the family for over 25 years before I left for that 5 years and his life was hell when I did, wouldn’t you think something would of finally clicked when he got me back this time that it’s nice to just be nice??
This time round, my health and sanity is more important than fighting with him, for the last time I want to walk out of that door, with the knowledge that I don’t ever need to be involved with his disgraceful behaviour ever again. I’ll be Free and in peace ✌🏽

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 17:33

his words the other day... get back to where you came from.. I had to leave last time after over 25 years together with nothing but a few bin bags with a 5 yr old in tow, I was allowed nothing. I’m allowed nothing this time ( as I’ve only been back 2 n half years!! ) splashes on the kitchen window piss him off n cause a row! I don’t even want to think what would happen if I start with IR etc... I’m drained, tired and need to concentrate on getting myself away from him

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 17:36

MrsRubyMonday
Thank you for your kind words.. I will get where I need to be 😊

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kidsneedfathers · 08/10/2018 18:38

Oh dear ! So ok try to find a job (you come across as very clever and resourceful ) and try to find out whether SS and your grown up sons can help you get a temporary lodgement with your little one...write a new post with the following title: how to change the title of a post?
Leave ASAP so that you can start looking for a job... You will make it this time and you will finally have the life you deserve wonderful lady...

Dragongirl10 · 08/10/2018 18:47

Op just look at this objectively,

You do all the work on his sales business
You run it

Of course you will get a job, you can have a nice job, your own money, a home with your son and freedom.

Open a private bank account now, try and siphon off a little money if you can and start your escape...

RandomMess · 08/10/2018 19:28

Is your 11 year old a DS or DC? Wondering if you could go to a refuge?

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 19:31

Kidsneedfathers
Thank you....Oh I wish I could leave ASAP as I would be gone tomorrow!! Yes I cannot wait to be able to get a job and mingle with society!!
I’m going to have to go down the homeless route and apply through the council as i cannot afford private rent and I also want to be able to have security for myself and son.
In the meantime, yes my daughter has her own house, and I’m welcome to spend some time there, not enough room for us to move in but maybe just a few nights on the settee here n there, if the tough gets tougher while I sit everything out and wait.. 'it' has been silent for a full day? Bliss to my ears/head, even made himself a brew n had some crisp for his tea ☺️

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 19:40

Dragongirl10...
You’re right and those 3 things mean so much to me, just a nice simple quiet life with my children and to have some friends.
I do have my own bank account, but there’s never much left and the end of week, but I know I have to somehow

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 19:50

RandomMess
The 11 yr old is my Son. I don’t really want to go to a refuge as he has just started high school which is just up the road from us, he has some good mates around who he’s grown up with too.

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springydaff · 08/10/2018 19:56

Women's Aid national helpline is constantly engaged (unless you call in the middle of the night) so do call your local WA office.

They will support you every step of the way. They are the experts and know how to guide you legally and practically.

Please call them asap. You don't have to do all this yourself, there is a lot of support our there through Women's Aid.

Sending you all the love in the world 🌸 💐

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 20:04

Springydaff
Thank you 😊 I will find out my local WA and ring them tomorrow, will they help me with the council housing side? I tried the housing online form filling last week and was stuck on a question, it wouldn’t let me go any further, no joy trying to ring them, so I emailed them and haven’t heard from them at all

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springydaff · 08/10/2018 20:31

Yes they will help you with everything.

I feel for you so much. I hope and pray you finally get free from this truly revolting and repugnant man. Xx

kidsneedfathers · 08/10/2018 20:35

I am glad you had a nice and peaceful evening...try to get all the help you can...it is fine to crash on your grown up kids sofa with your little one...you will get a job sooner than you think...a lot of love and hugs...good night (i hope more people will turn up to help you...) 🌹🍀

kiragirl · 08/10/2018 21:39

Springydaff...Thank you, Its a nice feeling to know people take the time out to read and reply 😊

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kiragirl · 08/10/2018 21:41

Kidsneedfathers, thank you, I’ve had a peaceful evening, feeling better than this morning.. thank you for your help, goodnight 😊

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Honeyroar · 08/10/2018 23:09

I really hope you're out of there very soon. It sounds awful!

I think you should unplug the freezer and tip the bin over in the kitchen before you go!

Butterymuffin · 08/10/2018 23:21

Get yourself and your son out of there asap. That'll do you both more good than any holiday! Flowers for you.

shuthefrontdoor · 08/10/2018 23:27

Oh OP I hope you manage to get out soon. It sounds awful x