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Husband giving me the silent treatment - I'm not coping anymore

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avah1969 · 04/10/2018 11:32

Hi guys,

To give you a bit of background, we've been together for 16 years and his daughter from a previous relationship has lived with us for the last 13 years.

Like many people, we have struggled financially since the credit crunch, with no pay rises at work alongside increasing bills. We both work full-time in stressful jobs but we never seem to get anywhere money-wise, and it feels like things will never improve. Although we just about manage to get by financially day to day, we don't have the money for large purchases and have not been on holiday in years. in addition to working full-time as a nurse, I have set up a small cake making business supplying novelty cakes, just to make a bit of extra cash, and it has become quite busy. It also means, however, that I don't get a lot of time to myself.

In the last 2 years we've suffered set back after set back, and it has taken it's toll on our relationship. My husband is type 1 diabetic and started to suffer from depression, which he was medicated for. This did improve things for a while. However, last year he then suffered a serious spinal injury, which resulted in operations, hospital admissions and a change to his medications. He has been left with nerve damage in his legs and bladder issues, which we have been told will likely be permanent. This has obviously affected his mood, given that he is only in his early 40's and can no longer be as active as he once was, as well as facing the embarrassment of bladder incontinence. He is also still in a lot of pain, but he refuses to take medication anymore because it makes him feel as though he is still 'ill' and he doesn't want to become dependant on it. During his recovery (approx. 6 months - 3 of which he was completely bedridden), I was his main carer, alongside me finishing a university degree, working full time and trying to run everything in the household myself. I regret that I did not seek help at the time, as I now feel that trying to do everything myself has run me down and I fear that it may also have led me to feel the need to be in control.

The only thing we ever argue about is money and it makes me so sad, because money and possessions are not what life is about, and neither of these things will be on my mind when I am on my deathbed. People are important to me, not possessions. But for my husband, it's all he obsesses about.

Due to his back injury, the car we share is no longer suitable for him, as it is small, low down and difficult for him to get into. Ideally, we need a new car but we simply cannot afford one right now. Believe me I have tried to figure out a way to get a new car just to keep him happy, but there are no options available to us. He can't seem to see or understand this, and he therefore blames me for our money situation because I'm the one doing all the worrying and am seen as the one saying no to purchases which we simply cannot afford. He accuses me of hiding things from him financially and says that my worrying about money all the time makes him feel terrified to spend any money at all. He has his own bank account which he could check if he really wanted to and there are so many credit scoring companies out there now, that if he really thought I was hiding something, it would be pretty easy for him to check this.

Even small gestures that I make, he manages to twist into something negative and to do with money, when they simply are not. For example, when he went back to work after his back injury, he was not allowed to drive because he was still heavily medicated. I was therefore making him a lunch to take with him, as he was unable to make the daily journey to the local ship at lunchtime, as he did before. Even after he did start driving again, I still made him lunch because it had become a habit and he said it was much better than what he could buy from the shop and it saved him time. Plus, with him being diabetic, it gave me peace of mind to know he always had something to eat on hand, should his blood sugar drop. I never ever thought of me making his lunch as a controlling act, but somehow he has now even twisted this into me only making him lunch as a means to keep him out of the shop, so that he can't spend money.

Our arguments always result in him screaming and swearing at me without allowing me the chance to speak and then him giving me the silent treatment, sometimes for days on end. Once, it even lasted 3 full weeks before he said a word to me. This behaviour has made me a nervous wreck, and I find myself tip-toeing around him when I know he is in mood.

He has been particularly stressed at work recently and they have made changes which mean he can no longer bring his work transport home with him, he has to park it in their base and find another way home. This has made the car situation even worse and after trialling me taking him to and from work, it was clear that he was uncomfortable in the car and it was making his back pain worse. As such, he has been more down and distant over the last few weeks.

Last Friday night, on the journey home, it was clear he was in a mood and he mumbled something about having a few things to pay for at work this week. He then proceeded to pretty much ignore me the rest to the weekend, only speaking when he really had to. This was making my anxiety increase, as I could see an explosion was on the horizon.

On Tuesday morning, he was in the shower and his wallet had fallen out of his trouser pocket and was lying on the bedroom floor. I was making the bed and having a general tidy around, so I picked up and noted that he had no money in it. I knew that he has his weekly team meeting on a Tuesday and that this was when he likely when he would need the money he had mentioned on Friday. I knew he had a busy day ahead, with meetings all day and wouldn't have time to get to an ATM, or would forget and then turn up at the meeting with no cash (which would likely cause a meltdown when he got home). I has some cash in the house that someone had paid me for a cake, so I slipped it into his wallet, thinking it would help him out and save him time. I fully intended to tell him I had done so when he got out of the shower. However, he came out the shower shouting and swearing and he got ready for work, slamming doors and mumbling various issues and insults under his breath (not solely directed at me but I could see which direction his temper was leading). I could feel my heart racing and my anxiety peaked with fear. I was too numb and scared at that point to say anything about putting the money in his wallet. On the car journey to his work, he was silent other than the odd complaint about all the things he had to do that day and sighing. Just as we were pulling into his work he remembered that he needed cash and made it out to be such a bit deal and a hassle, asking me if he needs my permission to take money out, again twisting it to be my fault. My nerves completely kicked in and I was terrified of his colleagues walking by the car and hearing him, that I stupidly said 'are you sure you never took money out when you were out and about at the weekend, maybe you've got money on you'. I have no idea why I said it and I instantly regretted it. He went crazy saying that he daren't take money out without the puppet-masters approval (this is what he calls me) and he got out of the car without another word.

Fast forward to 7:30pm that night, I was waiting for his call to pick him up and it was getting much later than normal, so I tried to call him. I was worried because he has been having more episodes of low blood sugar recently and I am always concerned when he's late that he's passed out somewhere. He never answered his phone. 10 minutes later, I see him walking up the street towards the house and realise that he has decided not to call for a lift home and instead walk. This immediately peaks my anxiety, as I know he has done this to avoid me and I start to worry about what mood I am about to be faced with.

He came in and sat in his chair without saying a word. I was in the kitchen making the dinner and our daughter was in her bedroom. As soon as I walked into the living room he started shouting at me, asking where the money in his wallet had come from and I froze. I didn't know what to say for the best, because I knew either way that he would twist it. He said that I was trying make him think he is losing his mind, and that I tried to convince him he had been to an ATM when he knew he hadn't. I tried to explain but he wouldn't let me speak and just continued to shout over the top of me. He said that I was playing mind games and that his ex-wife used to do that to him, he would not put up with it and if that's what I'm doing then I'm out the door. This went on for at least an hour, with me in tears and him standing over the top of me.

Our daughter heard and asked what was going on, although I am only her step-mum, she has lived with me most of her life and real mum passed away several years ago, so she sees me as her actual mum. She has witnessed other episodes of her father's temper before and knows he can be unreasonable sometimes but this was the worst she had seen him. His comments towards me were vile and extremely hurtful. She was also concerned that he did not seem to care that I was a bubbling mess.

Once he has stopped shouting, the inevitable silent treatment began. He pretended I did not exist, made himself a cup of tea and asked out daughter if she wanted one but ignored me, and then went bed without saying at word.

Yesterday morning, he got up much earlier than usual and asked our daughter if she would drop him off at his work on her way out, all so that he didn't need to ask me. He left without taking his lunch with him (which I had already made), nor did he say goodbye and he walked home from work at night. Our daughter was out last night so it was just the two of us and this was making my anxiety worse. Just before he came home, I had a major nosebleed and was sitting with a blood soaked tissue as he walked in the front door. He never even acknowledged me.

Luckily, my dad turned up for a visit out of the blue and as usual, my husband chatted away to him and pretended everything was fine. This is typical of him, to ignore me but be Mr personality with everyone else. I did not let on to my father that anything was wrong, as I know he worries and has been unwell himself recently. He stayed for around an hour and a half which made last night a bit easier as it meant I didn't have to put up with the silence for quite as long.

Once my father left I dished up the dinner. I am the type of person who would rather talk over an issue than be silent and ignore it, nor am I the type to be petty and give him a taste of his own medicine. I therefore still follow my routine and include him in it. I therefore dished up a plate for him and told him it was there. He ignored me and it was 20 minutes before he finally took his insulin and had his tea. You would think, with his diabetes he would be more sensible but there have been numerous occasions where he has refused a meal during his episodes of silent treatment, simply because I cooked it and to him, eating it would be a sign of weakness. He again went to bed without saying a word.

During last night, his blood sugars dropped but luckily his body senses this quick enough and he tends to wake up and deal with the situation. This always wakes me up and last night was no different. As always, I asked him if he was ok and he just grunted at me. This morning, when he was in the shower, I got out of bed and instantly had a nose bleed. I went into the bathroom to get tissue and he never asked if I was ok.

I continued with my usual morning routine. Although he never spoke to me this morning, he did make me a cup of tea, without asking, but couldn't quite bring himself to tell me he had done so or bring it to me in the other room. I only noticed it when I went back into the kitchen to clear up. With our daughter being out overnight, his choices were to either put up with me taking him to work or walk the 1.5 miles to his work. He chose the latter and left without taking his lunch and without saying a word.

He accuses me of playing mind games but surely he's the one doing this? I genuinely believe that he is very deliberate in the way he acts, for example, making me tea but still treating me as if I'm not there. Is he doing this to continue to mess with my head and make me question the mixed messages. I know it probably sounds really silly and trivial, but why make me tea (which could be seen as a positive) but then continue to ignore me (a negative).

Other than this increasingly more common arguing over money and his way of dealing with it by giving me the silent treatment, we genuinely have had a good relationship over the years and our friends and neighbours would be shocked to think this behaviour goes on in our house.

I would really welcome any opinions or comments from people who may understand the situation I am in, so that I don't continue to go off my head with it all. I've started to think he really does want to end things.

OP posts:
SnipSnipMisterBurgess · 05/10/2018 23:20

I really hope the next update is ‘so I’m at my dad’s...’

Turniptracker · 05/10/2018 23:31

Huge hugs for finding the confidence to speak directly to him. I'm only sorry he was so utterly pathetic he still couldn't be a grown up and have a real conversation. Your life is worth so so much more than this miserable, tense and distressing situation you are going through. Get help from your dad and leave, but agree with those who say do it in one go. He definitely sounds like the vengeful type so the fewer of your things he can hold hostage so he can punish you further the better

Smallhorse · 06/10/2018 00:36

I never say this.

Pack your bag now and go to your dad’s and don’t come back.

Smallhorse · 06/10/2018 00:38

Your marriage is the reason you are anxious. It’s no wonder

Honeyroar · 06/10/2018 00:44

I'm gutted to read that you went back!

Of course your dad knew, as does your step daughter and so will everyone else. You'll be amazed.

Don't ask your dad to get any more involved. He's offered you a lifeline and is probably worried sick about you. Your husband is not going to see sense or listen at this point anyway. He's wound himself up with seething resentment and blame, he needs leaving on his own to face the reality and not be able to blame anyone else. You really need to get your stepdaughter out too, as she would become the next target of resentment when you go. Before you go try and seperate finances because you can almost guarantee that he will run up more debt the minute you go - don't let yourself be liable.

You've been an angel looking after him, he has had a tough time and he needed help, but you're not a punchbag or something to be screamed at, YOU need looking after too. He's not listening to you or remotely appreciating what you do, so stop. Go to your dad's - even if you tell yourself it's for a few weeks. Tell your husband you're done with this behaviour- if he seeks help, both medically and financially and really makes an effort you may consider returning in a few weeks, but he doesn't he's on his own and you will speak to a solicitor.

Do something for yourself.

ItLooksABitOff · 06/10/2018 00:48

LEAVE OP.

Monday55 · 06/10/2018 02:03

Leave OP, you deserve to be FREE ! Pack up your stuff whilst his out or whilst your dad is there with you for moral support.

Doesnt matter what he tells people as they'll only gossip for a few weeks before moving onto someone else.

He's the one causing most of the debts as he's bad with money and he's trying to keep up with his rich friend.

mummmy2017 · 06/10/2018 02:45

Your husband is causing your debt buying cars.
Move out... Please.
Look up passive aggressive this is what your husband is doing to you.

zippey · 06/10/2018 02:52

This is your life. You will be so much happier starting over again without this constant drain and fear over you.

Shoxfordian · 06/10/2018 06:53

Go back and stay at your dad's op
You need to divorce him

Blondebakingmumma · 06/10/2018 07:38

Go to your dad’s and don’t look back. Your daughter will understand

Lifeisabeach09 · 06/10/2018 13:02

Agree with PPs.
Move in with your dad ASAP.
Have your pay directed to your own account ASAP.
Get advice and initiate bankruptcy or something like it. As someone said, look at StepChange.
Leave, OP. What are you waiting for???

avah1969 · 06/10/2018 19:07

So........

I get up this morning and my laptop wouldn’t let me log in, kept saying I was putting in the wrong password - it’s been the same for years. My mobile phone broke recently but I’d not replaced it yet, and going online for support and to take my mind off things is all that has kept me going these last few days, and I’m very grateful for the support you guys have given me.

I took the laptop to pc world to get it fixed but I won’t get it back till at least Tuesday. My brother has given me his old phone to make sure I have a means of contact.

My partner has been much the same today, still not wanting to acknowledge my presence. He has even struggled to act normal with me in front of the neighbours when they popped round for a visit.

He’s been in the garage most of the day, tinkering with one of two motorbikes he’s has bought in recent years, so at least he hasn’t been present all day.

I’ve made plans for Monday, when he’s back at work, to have a clear out and throw away any of my things that I don’t need or want, so that when the time comes, I just pack up what’s left and go. I’m also going to visit the bank to open a sole bank account, one which he will never know about, and I will start to put money aside until I fully decide what I want to do.

My father popped in again today, and he told me he will pay however much he has to pay to get me out of this situation, if that’s what I want. I don’t know what I would do without him.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 06/10/2018 19:17

Be warned that the bank will send stuff to the house which he could intercept. Tell them to post out nothing and you will collect it Flowers

Cambionome · 06/10/2018 19:28

Good luck op. I really feel for you in this horrible situation. Flowers

Unicornandbows · 06/10/2018 19:51

Op leave pack and go you don't need this fuck wit person in your life.

eelbecomingforyou · 06/10/2018 20:03

This is no way to live.

Your h is meant to love you.

Yours acts like he hates you.

Life is short, op. You don’t need money; you need to be happy.

springydaff · 06/10/2018 20:03

I haven't R all TFT because it's just too unbearable.

Get out as soon as you can. But what's happening to his daughter? Is she coming with you?

YOu know to cover your tracks online, yes?

Whisky2014 · 06/10/2018 20:10

Utilise your dads help and get out now. You're lucky to have that supoort, some dont. Get out now.

LeGrandeFluff · 06/10/2018 20:18

There is no love here for either of you. Just anger and resentment and fear. I wouldn't be surprised if your H hadn't broken your phone and changed your password to mess with your head.
It's often the case an abuser will accuse the victim of doing the very things they do themselves.
I urge you to take your dad up on his offer. Separate your finances, get your paperwork in order and leave.
He is only going to get worse.
He also sounds financially abusive and incompetent and almost enjoys putting you into debt.
This is not any way to live your life.

DancingForTheDog · 06/10/2018 20:19

From what you have said, I can't see a single reason why you would stay. He despises you.

eddielizzard · 06/10/2018 20:21

For your mental health, when your DH is at work on Monday, I would PACK UP AND LEAVE. Your dad is marvellous. I'd also say to your DSD that she always has a home with you, and you love her very much.

TAKE this lifeline your dad is offering you. He loves you and he wants you to be happy. Your DP is financially and emotionally abusive. He buys expensive things that he KNOWS are well beyond your means and forces you to pay for them. He ignores you for weeks and calls YOU financially abusive (classic, btw, to accuse the victim of the bully's traits, because it's so unjustified there is no rational response).

This isn't salvageable, and you have amazing support in your dad. Let him help you. Whenever someone says that the outside world thinks a person is a saint, that is very rarely the case. The mask slips in subtle ways that become very apparent over time. You'll be surprised, but your friends will be wondering why on earth you put up with him for as long as you did.

DameFanny · 06/10/2018 20:32

When you open your solo bank account please please ensure you get taken off any and all joint accounts - your H keeps showing you he's not to be trusted with money, you need to make sure he can't run up new debts in your name

Bunbunbunny · 06/10/2018 20:45

Use your Df address for new account and get away from that man ASAP. Don't worry about clearing stuff out just focus on what you need to take

MulticolourMophead · 06/10/2018 21:38

I get up this morning and my laptop wouldn’t let me log in, kept saying I was putting in the wrong password - it’s been the same for years.

Make sure that while your PC is being fixed, it's being checked for spyware and keyloggers.

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