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Cheating Advice

64 replies

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 12:44

Not sure what I’m looking for by posting this but here goes...

I’m 24 and my boyfriend is 26, we’ve been together for 9 years since I was 15 and he was 17. He recently cheated on me whilst he was very drunk, told me and we’ve been trying to make it work. However since this confession he’s now confessed to cheating on me 3 times when he was 18/19, going to a strip club and somewhere questionable in Amsterdam, albeit “nothing happened”.

Is this normal? What should I do? Am I being naive to think most men don’t have skeletons in their closets?

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Singlenotsingle · 09/09/2018 12:48

I'm sure they do! But you got together very young and neither of you have had a chance to sow any wild oats. You can never guarantee that your man won't go off the rails. It just depends whether you want to go and live a little, or settle down now.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 12:53

I’d be very happy to settle down now, I just don’t know if it can be forgiven? He has come clean about it all as he wants to move forward, it’s just hard to know I’ve been lied to for years.

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 09/09/2018 12:56

I might - might - have been able to forgive a kiss or something; once, whilst we were very young.

I wouldn't be able to forgive multiple incidents in my mid 20s. I wouldn't trust him anymore. It either suggests he's very easily tempted or that he isn't ready to settle down; and either way it's going to create a lot of pain for you.

Has he suggested any ways of fixing this and regaining your trust?

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:02

He said he’s coming clean about everything now because he wants to change and all incidents have happened when he’s been very drunk/with his friends, who he felt like he had to do certain things with to “fit in”.

He hasn’t drank alcohol for 3 months since the latest incident and apparently he never will again.

I love him so deeply and we’ve been through a lot together even though we’re still young. I do want it to work I just don’t see how it can.

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lowtide · 09/09/2018 13:19

He may well want to change. But that’s not the point in all of this. What he’s done to you is really horrific. Don’t minimise it. He’s consistently cheated and now wants to get it all of his chest so he’s got a clean slate.

Where does that leave you? Spending the rest of your life worrying about it, whilst he’s moved on from it all.

ZanyMobster · 09/09/2018 13:21

Trouble is that I just wouldn't be able to forget. If it was all way back when you were first together, essentially as kids, then maybe but the fact he did it recently then absolutely not. If he had wanted to settle down then he wouldn't have done it.

I just wouldn't take drink as an excuse, maybe a drunken kiss is a mistake but to have sex there are plenty of opportunities to stop it, he couldn't have been that drunk. You can be pretty drunk and still perform but he wasn't nearly passed out drunk so IMO no excuse.

I was watching a counsellor discuss cheating on tv the other day and they said a one off maybe someone can change but 3 or 4 times, very very unlikely.

Snappedandfarted2018 · 09/09/2018 13:22

Your still young why sell yourself short for someone repeatedly cheats on you.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:24

I think I said something like “I’m forgiving you because I know it was a one time mistake and nothings happened before” which spurred him on to tell me everything, as he didn’t want me to forgive him and then ever find out anything else. Part of me is glad I know as I’ve always suspected that something might have happened - but the things he’s done make me question him as a person, let alone our relationship.

For context we have an engagement ring (family heirloom) and we’ve saved £20k between us for a house over the last year... I know I’m probably biased but I want to believe it won’t happen again and he’s finally realised what he has, but am I just setting myself up for a fall?

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category12 · 09/09/2018 13:24

Oh dear.

Do your future self a massive favour and take the pain of splitting up now. You deserve better than this.

If it was once, maybe, but this is multiple times.

Don't waste your youth on this man.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:26

He didn’t have sex with someone but did something sexual (the same thing he’s done every time). I picked him up afterwards as I knew he’d gone out drinking and he could barely stand up, but I just don’t think I’d be able to go through with it, even if I was that drunk.

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lowtide · 09/09/2018 13:28

It will happen. Sorry but it will. And next time it will be a thousand times worse. Because he’ll manage for a bit and then the stress of family/wedding/illness/death (insert any stressful situation) will probably make him think fuck it, she’ll forgive me.

lowtide · 09/09/2018 13:29

Something sexual? A hand job? A blow job? Do you think they aren’t as bad as full sex? Does he think they aren’t as bad!

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:30

That’s what I’m afraid of, if he’s been able to lie to my face for 7 years, why wouldn’t he lie again?

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NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:31

A blow job, I don’t know sex seems a bit more intimate but you’re right, it’s just as bad. I’ve just tried to justify it in my head that it’s an urge that all men have rather than any sort of real feelings.

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lowtide · 09/09/2018 13:33

I tell you bluntly. I could have sex with a random. But I wouldn’t ever let someone go down on me that’s far more intimate. And I think giving someone a blowjob is far more intimate. It’s a really special thing between a couple. Impo. Others might think differently.
Your boyfriend clearly does.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:34

You’re probably right. I just feel like I’ve wasted so much of my life.

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Snappedandfarted2018 · 09/09/2018 13:36

I wouldn’t be surprised that he had sex aswell op he’s only minisiming

AnnieAnoniMoose · 09/09/2018 13:38

I know it’s difficult. I separated from my partner about the same age as you, having been together the same amount of time (but for a different reason). It. Was. Hard. At the time I felt ‘too old to start again’ (oh how I laugh now, but I genuinely felt that at the time) and that I’d put too much into it to split up (sunken cost fallacy). But we did split up and it was the right thing to do.

Years after that I split up with another long term partner who had cheated on me. I tried to make it work, but that destroyed me worse than the cheating. It was awful.

Being drunk really isn’t an excuse. I’ve been hammered and yes tempted by some bloke, but when you’re in a relationship with someone you love, no matter how drunk you are, you still know what you’re doing is wrong and a choice you’re making. He actively chose not to give a crap about you or your relationship...

Yeah he’s stopped drinking (though I’m sure that won’t last either), but that’s not addressing the issue. That’s not why he fucked another girl. It made it slightly easier to lose his inhibition, but that’s all.

‘I want to change’. It’s a bit lame don’t you think? It’s like he’s going to ‘try’ to behave. For god sake! It’s not difficult not to get naked and fuck someone else. It’s not like accidentally biting your nails.

Personally, for me now, if someone cheated on me, it would be over because there’s no way on god’s little green earth I’m putting myself through that again.

I think you should leave him, you deserve better, but we are here for you either way..

lowtide · 09/09/2018 13:38

Look up the SUNK COST FALLACY
Most people stay in shitty relationships because of that reason.

Huskylover1 · 09/09/2018 13:40

Ah, my ExH was like this.

If anything, it ramped up once we had babies. Just imagine you stuck at home, covered in baby sick, sleep deprived, not giving him much sex....how trustworthy do you think he'll be, on a night out, when faced with a pretty young thing who is willing to give him a BJ?

My Ex hasn't changed either. He's 50 now, and still at it. His Partner after me saw through it and left him. His current GF doesn't know what he's like yet. Oh dear.

How would your BF feel, if you allowed another man to perform oral sex on you? I'd ask him this.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:42

Thank you for the advice, it’s oddly comforting to know others have been in the same situation and it’s worked out ok. I’m too embarrassed to talk to any of my friends about it.

Is it crazy to cling to the idea that I know he’ll be a good dad? That all men are the same and even if I leave him the next one will just do the same?

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Huskylover1 · 09/09/2018 13:44

Is it crazy to cling to the idea that I know he’ll be a good dad?

What? How do you know he'll be a good Dad? Throwing a baby into the mix, will most likely drive him into OW arms, when the going gets tough.

That all men are the same and even if I leave him the next one will just do the same?

No. No they won't. My DH is nothing like my ExH.

Huskylover1 · 09/09/2018 13:46

I think you've decided to stick with him, and you will probably be lucky enough to have a few stress free years.

However, please protect yourself financially, so that you are always able to leave him, when he inevitably reverts to type.

NeedAdvice19 · 09/09/2018 13:47

He’s just very kind, gentle, dotes on his mum and aside from the obvious he has treated me very well over the years. It just makes me sad that drunken incidents are going to ruin something that could have been so good. We never argue, he’s generous with his time and money, so supportive of everything I do. On paper you would think he was perfect and I think that’s why I thought he was for so long.

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AnnieAnoniMoose · 09/09/2018 13:48

Sunken cost fallacy.

I said exactly the same thing - ‘I’ve worked wastedvtoo much of my life, I can’t leave now’...

...but there’s no point ‘wasting’ more of your life with him, just because you have already. 9 years is a long time, but the next 60 is a LOT longer.

Plus, other than being able to say ‘We have been together 10/20/30 years’ what does it really mean to have been with him 9 years? What does it even mean really ? What exactly is ‘wasted’ if you leave now?

I still can’t really answer that, I just came to the conclusion it’s something that doesn’t actually matter or mean anything.

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