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Am I being a mug?

62 replies

adriannauk · 08/09/2018 17:09

I know that is a big question, and only I can answer that...but I want to share my story here in the hope for insight..

I have been with DH for 16 years next month, and next month will be our 10 year wedding anniversary.

our relationship has been fine, and strong for years. Earlier this year, DH has a midlife crisis and fell for another woman at work. OW is a lot younger and just got married herself.

Apparently she doesn't feel the same, and they haven't slept together. So he felt so stupid and horrible etc about the crush, he is in his mid 40's and she her mid 20's. I was prepared to support and forget etc. He then developed an anxiety order and depression. He is on antidepressants awaiting counselling.

At first I asked that DH and OW not chat outside work, as they used to snapchat all the time.

then he has changed so much over the last couple months, he has emotionally shut off from everyone and everything as he says. Which I can understand is the depression. so I was really patient and tried to support him the best way i can. He has had sleep deprivation and now put on sleeping tablets.

I got counselling for myself to learn to be more emotionally independent, as he has always looked after me in the past with my own depression. so he knew he can just focus on getting himself well and not worry whats it doing to me.

He started to talk to OW again outside work, saying he needs a friend to talk to besides me. This doesn't help when he last went to the doctors, they said to speak to her as its healthy to have a friend to talk to, as they always maintained that's who they are to each other now.

He said the last weekend he can’t wear his wedding ring anymore, as he doesn't feel like a husband anymore and not treated me properly, like a guilt mindset. it really stung, but I let him do what he needs to do, as I know first-hand how much mental health can change your way of thinking.

Today I found out he took the day off work yesterday, and told me he went to work. by accident, we both use the same pc, and I went on Facebook not realising it was his. then I realised and admit got curious. after all that happened i can understand why. Also this week he has been extremely down, so I wanted to make sure he was ok.

after finding this out on his pc, I then went proper searching. Then I found he ordered a babydoll and a sex toy and lube. Babydoll was not in my size.

When I asked him where he was yesterday, he said he went for a drive first and met up with OW and kept her company while she got a tattoo.

I then confronted about the Ann Summers order - he said he ordered it for OW as a birthday present. I asked how is that appropriate, and how would her husband feel. he shrugged and said that's what she wanted.

So I have been pretty devastated and hurt to say the least. He says he doesn't want to end things and wants to go through counselling to get himself right.

The only one thing I have asked of him is honesty... if something happens, if you have loved me at all then tell me.

now I have lost all trust. I can’t bring myself to wear my own ring. I know I still love him, but I don't know what to do at the moment. I'm too heartbroken..

Who buys sexy underwear and toys for a freaking friend? he says people are different.

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TokyoSushi · 08/09/2018 17:15

I think this is going to be a tricky one to work through OP, I'd be asking him to move out Thanks

Carmen99 · 08/09/2018 17:16

I'm sorry op your husband is not being honest with you.
No man buys his female friend Ann Summers products innocently.
Personally I'd ask him to move out if at all possible. Get yourself checked at sexual health clinic (sorry).
Yes, he may need people to talk to but not his old fling!
Are you still having counselling?

cantstandmenow · 08/09/2018 17:17

He's a disgusting human being and he's going to make your mental health issues so much worse. Get rid of him. That is an appalling way to behave!

Aprilshowersnowastorm · 08/09/2018 17:18

My male friend bought me a sex toy.
My friend with benefits.

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 08/09/2018 17:19

If you believe that he didn’t use those gifts with her then yes, you’re a mug.

He’s treated you appallingly, his distance and depression are because he’s stuck in a life he doesn’t want, wishing he was with her.

Taking off his ring is because he’s told her that you and he are separated, not because he doesn’t feel worthy of it.

You need to kick him out pronto. Don’t do the pick me dance, don’t give him the benefit of the doubt because he’s troubled etc. Kick the dirty cheating fucker out and don’t let him back in. Flowers

Help201602 · 08/09/2018 17:22

You have him a chance and he abused it. He has lied and you can’t believe a word he said. He is sleeping with her. I’m so sorry but you can’t let him go on leading you a merry dance

RainySeptember · 08/09/2018 17:22

I'm so sorry but yes you are being a mug.

He had an affair and promised to give her up to work on your marriage. Yet while you were seeking help to get more 'emotionally independent' and being generally supportive as he grieved the end of his relationship, he was busy sexting on snapchat, taking annual leave to meet up with her, and buying her gifts from a sex shop.

I've rarely heard of a betrayed wife being more of a mug than that.

Seriously, how can you love this pathetic shitbag? Even if you do, how can you allow him to treat you like something he'd scrape off his shoe? How have you not paid her a visit at her family home?

Please please muster your dignity and kick him out. Let's see if she still wants the depressive bastard then.

blackcat86 · 08/09/2018 17:27

He's obviously going through a lot but that isn't a free pass to do whatever he likes. You still have the right to be treated with respect. He needs to move out. His behaviour with OW is very disrespectful to you and your marriage. I would be suspicious of the comment form the GP. My MIL comes out with stuff like that all the time - the GP said I should talk to my mother, the GP said my SIL is being unreasonable and you're left thinking 'mmm did they or did you talk about what's upsetting you or helping you and they just offered a nice listening ear'. If you to the GP and say I have a nice friend i talk to of course they will tell you to keep doing what helps. They are not there to consider the impact on your relationship without all the background info.

LuluBellaBlue · 08/09/2018 17:27

Sorry OP that’s appalling behaviour. So wrong of him and you sound incredibly patient.
Honestly my thoughts are LTB. He really doesn’t deserve you!
I wonder if the presents were for her or someone else if she gave him the brush off??

Bubblemagic11 · 08/09/2018 17:28

That's terrible behaviour from him OP. No man, at least not a creepy one, buys his 'friend' lingerie and lube. He's treating you appallingly and will string you along if you let him. Make a plan, get your finances in order, secure what's yours and kick him out. Don't let him sweet talk you into all that people behave differently bullshit, you deserve far far better. God knows how many times he's 'gone to work' but has been hooking up with the OW. And it won't stop.

3luckystars · 08/09/2018 17:29

I’m so sorry it must be hard to believe but it is happening.

He is not the person you thought he was.

I don’t believe his doctor told him meet up with a woman because he needs a friend. That’s not true.

I just wanted to wish you all the best x

Bubblemagic11 · 08/09/2018 17:29

Sorry that should read 'a decent one'... I meant to say it's creepy he's buying baby dolls and sex toys

Thatsfuckingshit · 08/09/2018 17:33

I have been and bought some sexy underwear today (not Ann summers) and a man came with me. Dp.

Mr and Dp were platonic friends for a good while and I wouldn't have asked him for sexy underwear and a sex toy for my birthday......and fucking lube?

Not a chance are they only platonic. Not a fucking chance would I ask a male mate who was married to get me those things. It's totally inappropriate

Then add on that he is lying about where he is. If you believe that he isn't have sex with her, then you are a mug. I am sorry, but a woman who isn't interested in a man does not ask him to buy these things.

Thatsfuckingshit · 08/09/2018 17:35

I don’t believe his doctor told him meet up with a woman because he needs a friend. That’s not true

I agree with this. They may have said that he is good to have a friend to talk to. But they won't have said it was a good idea that it's her.

Both of them are taking the piss out of you.

Secretsquirrel101 · 08/09/2018 17:36

He’s making an absolute mockery of your good nature. You’ll be a mug to put up with any more of his shit. He is, without a shadow of a doubt, fucking the ow, and if she ever gave him a chance, he’d leave you like a shot.

sugarnotsweetener · 08/09/2018 17:36

Oh gosh OP, he is awful.

I agree with every other poster - he is lying and treating you appallingly.

I’d never ask a female friend for these gifts never mind a male work friend. Just terrible.

Rudgie47 · 08/09/2018 17:36

I think you need to kick him out and get a divorce. Your going to end up with no self esteem left if you stay with him.
Tell him today your done with him.

Gingerlover2 · 08/09/2018 17:40

So sorry this is happening to you.

He has had his head turned by a younger woman who he says doesn't feel the same yet they spend time together and now he's buying her sex toys and underwear. He is lying to you.

If you tolerate this any longer it will destroy you. He has broken your heart, trust and faith in him. It's over.

Unless he's prepared to stop contact with her immediately and work on your marriage then take control. Stop playing the pick me dance and hold your head up high and ask him to leave.

You have to think about YOUR mental health and sanity and hanging around, waiting for him to come to his senses will NOT work. The more you allow him to behave like a lovestruck teenager, the more he will continue to pursue her and the more broken you will become.

I really don't want to be harsh but we see this so much on these threads and the best way to deal with a situation like this is to take charge and find some strength to not allow him to walk all over you.

IF you still want him back after all this, this is the only way to get that to happen.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 08/09/2018 17:42

Him and ow are taking the actual piss. Sorry for you op. Kick him out x

Horsesforcourses23 · 08/09/2018 17:45

OP I am so sorry this has happened to you. I had a friend in a similar position. He really is lying to you, no one buys friends sexy gifts he's having an affair and I think lying that she's not interested sorry xx

Fadingawayagain · 08/09/2018 17:50

I kind of have a different view on this. He is being honest to an extent (saying he had a crush on her, the underwear was for her etc) and probably in hope that him being honest about those things throws you off him actually sleeping with her. But then maybe, she obviously knows he is older and fancies her, so she is using him for those things (keeping her company while getting a tattoo) it’s all very weird! I feel for you OP and honestly it isn’t you who is the mug. Sounds like he is having some issues but this in no way should affect your relationship. I am curious however as to why you still want to be with him after all this. You deserve better x

bangourvillagebesttimeever · 08/09/2018 17:52

My word how truly awful. I have never and I mean ever heard of a married male buying a female married friend a sex toy and lube. Your OH is treating you appallingly and I wouldn’t have him in my house. Minimising his behaviour with this OW and suggesting buying her inappropriate sex toys isn’t unusual. It’s really up to you how you manage this. If it was me I would have thrown him out but then I have real trust issues and emotional affairs or any other nonsense and lying is a no from me.

Onedayy · 08/09/2018 17:53

What does her newly married husband think of a work colleague buying his wife a sex toy and lube?

MMmomDD · 08/09/2018 17:54

A friend can buy a friend a present from Ann Summers...
...if it’s a female friend....
...if it’s a gay male friend...
...possibly if it’s a long term Male friend and there has never been any attraction, and they openly discuss their relationships, etc..

In your situation - it’s clearly an unfinished business. He got depressed not because he was disgusted with himself - he had a broken heart and got depressed.
She is not available but seems to be enjoying his attention. And stringing him along.

You either accept it, or move on.

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 08/09/2018 17:59

LTB or let it impact on your mental health forever.

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