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partner changing my sons education

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Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 09:21

Over the last year I have with bogged down with starting at university again and working full time . My youngest was In a private and very flexible nursery which suited are needs. He has just turned 3.

Sometime during the last year my partner went about researching into to changing his childcare -unbeknown to me. He choose at that point to send him to a catholic nursary attached to a catholic school (he’s catholic I’m Christian).

Sometime later I found out that not only had he researched the matter the forms had been filled and my son has a start date
I was so angry / upset that he had gone behind my back. Even more that he had done this at a time when I was struggling with appeals for schools for my eldest, which I was left to do on my own. I was promised we could relook at this, but months later I found myself being pushed into a parents evening.

My concern is that I would see my boy less. As the nursery was 5 mornings a week. My partner encouraged me to go to the parents evening stating I could keep my son off when I wanted.

At the parents evening I met the school teachers and the after school provider I was told I should not keep my child off as it is his education. Being told to rethink “ whether I could handle my son going to school a year early”

Well I can’t , I was so upset by the meeting. My partners tactic changed, describing me in pathetic for being upset .

I am a nurse and sometimes work shifts, so for the majority of the time I would never have a full day off with my son. Furthermore the wrap around care is not flexible either.

I have had no other involvement In this and today he has started. I’m from 1pm so won’t see my son for the rest of the day when usually I’d drop him off 12 at the other nursery.

Im upset that I’ve been made to get my son into school a year early . I’ve not researched other schools like I did my eldest , I’ve not had the option. I’ve not been involved in buying his school uniform . All because I was left thinking that I still had a choice

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AnnieAnoniMoose · 06/09/2018 11:19

I wouldn’t take him to that nursery, I would pick him up when I chose to and I’d be be separating from this wanker. No way would I be dictated to about spending time with my child. Not by him and certainly not by a bloody nursery.

DS would be going to a catholic school over my dead body and then some.

Thundercracker · 06/09/2018 11:21

Exactly Tawny - I think people are smiling because the way its written, it sounds as though they are two different things. He is also Christian. You'd expect the OP to say what denomination she was.

To be honest, it makes it sound as though religion is not a big thing in their household. Which is fine, but does make you wonder why suddenly going to a Catholic school has become so imperative.

eeanne · 06/09/2018 11:22

If he's so Catholic is he your DH rather than DP? If not then I question his sudden commitment to the religion. Is your son baptized?

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 11:26

Juells

He is his child too- in the sense that I think he’s controlling is because I feels that he wants to control me and my time with him . He wants to control How i parent him, what I feed him . The words I say to him. Where I take him. Who sees him

He’s forever questioning me to see if all that I’ve done with him is right

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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 06/09/2018 11:30

As gotta said, get all the facts plus take him out whenever you want. It is not yet for any school setting to dictate when he attends. If they don't like it then it's not the appropriate place to send your ds.

TawnyTeal · 06/09/2018 11:31

Ohhhhh..... Blush

Thank you for explaining, I now see. In defence of my lack of comprehension, I'm not long out of a GA. think I need some more sleep.

Sorry to have not offered any constructive advice, OP, other than I would never allow anyone to reduce my time with my child, as it is too precious.

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 11:31

I should of wrote he’s catholic and I’m Christian as I know catholics are Christian . What I mean to say is he is a practising catholic, however I am not a practising Christian

He has a large religious family and attended church when he was young . He didn’t attend for about 6 years recently but started to attend again when my youngest was baptised.

Initially I tried to attend church with him and my children however stopped after as I didn’t feel welcome in the long run. My partner now attends on his own most Sundays as my youngest “messes”

My oldest child is not catholic

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InezGraves · 06/09/2018 11:34

OP, there's more than this going on look at your language. You describe him as your partner, not your child's father, and you keep talking about 'my youngest' not 'our youngest' or 'our child' to the point where many posters, me included, assumed he wasn't the father of your son it doesn't sound like the most united of set-ups, and you don't seem able to communicate at all. The way you describe it, you have no input into major family decisions.

Is he the father of your eldest child? Why all the focus on the younger one, especially if the elder has been having difficulties, appeals etc?

Elephant14 · 06/09/2018 11:36

I'm still not entirely sure I get it - so your husband removed your son from a nursery where he was happy - is that right? And a nursery which had significant benefits for the family? And put him in a faith based nursery provision that doesn't suit any of you. Was your child distressed to be placed in a new setting?

So what do you want to do OP? Do you want to re-assess the entire relationship? Do you want to move your son back into the other nursery? We all agree your partner has been an arse over this, and he is being controlling. Why did you post? What outcome do you want?

RomanyRoots · 06/09/2018 11:36

my very first LTB, unless of course you want no say in how your dc are raised.
Btw, Catholics are Christians, you didn't seem to realise that in your OP.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 06/09/2018 11:39

I would go ahead and research the schools- you might end up agreeing that this is the best school for your ds but generally unless it is written into the criteria, nursery attendance will have no bearing on whether he gets a place (assuming it is a state school). Likely criteria are SEN, Catholic looked after children, baptised (sometimes within certain timeframe), signed letter from priest confirming regular attendance(usually over a number of years), siblings, whether you live in parish etc. The school might be able to tell you how likely you would have been to get in over previous years- I.e. where the lists went down to. It will vary though and there will always be siblings who haven't attended the nursery because their parents work and other settings are more flexible.

Make sure that you register for the portal as soon as it opens. Make sure that even if it is your preferred choice that you fill as many options as you can below it because particularly with faith applications unless there are older siblings, you are a server in mass every week and you live next door there are no guarantees, especially if it is small, popular and highly regarded. Your do might say that he will only accept X school but in reality it is better to have a nearby school even if less desirable than a distant school that no one wanted. If he is as oblivious about the entry requirements as he sounds then he might also be the type to 'only put one school then they will have to give it to us' that's why it would be good if you can register so that you can make sure that you make sensible, realistic choices obviously in discussion and hopefully agreement with him.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 06/09/2018 11:41

Xposted. Some criteria are for 'family attendance' so the child needs to go too.

Tartyflette · 06/09/2018 11:41

Tell the nursery, ASAP and preferably in writing, that you do not consent to your child attending it, no matter what your partner says.
That it is the wrong choice for both your child and you and that your partner had gone behind your back when he filled in the application forms.
Up to you to then decide when and whether to tell your husband what you've done (but I wouldn't be in any hurry after what he had done to you.)
With any luck that should bring the application process to a halt.

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 11:41

Yes my language is interesting
I suppose I’m just concentrating on not using their names. I don’t know

My eldest is not my partners biological son

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liquidrevolution · 06/09/2018 11:42

So your son is baptized Catholic like his father?

I agree with a PP get on your council's website and read all the info on schools applications and the tables for previous years admissions. You need to discuss this with your partner and it will be best to have all the information.

I still think he is a controlling twunt. He needs to trust you with your child. To be honest you have an older child and more experience so he should be listening to you. If he doesn't then I don't think your relationship should last.

Flashingbeacon · 06/09/2018 11:46

I was coming on to say what pp have said. He doesn’t need to be in nursery until he’s 5 so you can pick him up/not send him whenever you like and are free. So short term you needed loose any time with him.
BUT does your partner control what you do outside of work?
There’s still plenty time for you to research and think about schools for sure. But the main issue is the non negotiable stance of your partner. You really need to think about what you want to happen there. And how far you are prepared to compromise .

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 11:48

He’s not distressed to go to a new school no
And this may be the best school in the long run. I would have to do more research.

I’m not entirely sure what I wanted when I posted .my heart is going against my brain here . I suppose I wanted someone to help me think

I want him in a good school
But I wanted to cherish this last year with him.

Things were fine how they were and I feel forced into this decision.

I don’t like how he has gone about this , and it scares me for the future .
I know I need to re-evaluate my relationship

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timeisnotaline · 06/09/2018 11:49

When you have a morning off , take him out of nursery. It’s not compulsory and you don’t need your dps permission to parent your dc. He sure as hell doesn’t wait for your permission to parent.
If you want to stay with him you need counselling to help you know and insist you have a right to parent. If he doesn’t understand you have a right to parent your child you shouldn’t stay with him.

T2705 · 06/09/2018 11:49

Hi,

Issues with your partner aside (agree with previous posters regarding this) but Just to confirm, this is nursery, it may be attached to a school but it is still nursery. You can keep your child home as and when you like and there is not a thing that they can do about it. If it was happening with a lot of regularity they may call you in to query whether you still want the place for your son on that particular day but that will be about it. They may have opinions about his attendance and his education but that is all they are! Just their opinions!

TheFishInThePot · 06/09/2018 11:53

You know going to the pre school will not help him get into the school, but going to church will. Your DP is going to church without the child, even tho this will actually make a difference to whether he gets into the school or not.

Maybe you were close to the mark when you thought along these lines
I have however questioned whether my partner feels my son will be better looked after at this school then he is with me

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 11:54

Your right .

It would be much easier if it was a bad nursery but it is not. I’ll keep him off when I feel needed and see how that goes with the nursery and partner.
But I do the worry I feel guilty for wanting to be with my son and keep him off nursary

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MaryandMichael · 06/09/2018 11:57

This is a 'partner' not a husband. You can get yourself and your children out. I'd advise that.

If you don't mind the school, let him go. If you're totally against it, when you've got yourself and children out of the controlling relationship, change the school.

Catholic (usually Roman Catholic, in this context) is Christian, by the way.

Sarah1290 · 06/09/2018 12:02

I honestly do know that catholic is Christian. I was stuggling to identify my faith ,maybe I should of said bone practising Christian

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SandyY2K · 06/09/2018 12:03

I've not read the whole thread. Your son going to the nursery or not...would not affect him getting a place in the school.

He should have discussed it and the impact with you.

Catholic schools do perform well, so I think that is good for his education ..but the lack of discussion was disrespectful and totally disregards you as his mother.

BigBlueBubble · 06/09/2018 12:05

I feel guilty for wanting to be with my son
Sorry but it’s ridiculous if you’re being made to feel guilty for wanting to be with your own son. You should never feel guilty for that.

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