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Does this make me the OW?

93 replies

Shootingstar23 · 06/08/2018 12:29

To cut a long story short, DP fell asleep on couch yesterday. He left his phone unlocked and I decided to have a look at his whatsapp messages. He never leaves his phone unlocked. I didn't even have reason to think anything was going on but we've just been going through a rough patch.

He had messages from a woman saying she missed him and couldn't wait to talk to him properly on the phone. I didn't know what to do so I messaged her told her who I was etc. She said she knew who I was and about my DC but he had told her that I'd walked out on him. She said they had been on and off for 8 years. 8 fucking years!! I've not even been with him that long so does that make me the OW?

I was that shocked I blocked her, I've not spoken to him yet. I don't even know if he's noticed she's blocked. I don't use whatsapp much, will it be obvious?

Please help, what do I do?

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GlitteryFluff · 07/08/2018 04:45

Personally I'd be bloody glad I snooped because I would now know what a massive twat I'm with.
Would you rather not know voice?

Devilishpyjamas · 07/08/2018 04:55

Bet you wish you hadn’t been snooping on his phone now don’t you

Eh? What a bizarre post. Think most people would prefer the truth.

KissMeLikeYouMissMe · 07/08/2018 04:58

"Bet you wish you hadn’t been snooping on his phone now don’t you.."

As opposed to not knowing and him carrying on like that behind her back??? He's in the wrong, not the op.

OP you are better than this. you deserve more. Kick.him out, have some time to thunk, get some perspective. My ex cheated on me constantly and I couldn't trust him at all. He's the one at fault, not you.

callkiki · 07/08/2018 05:09

Start gathering your paperwork and finances right now. You may not have made any decisions at the moment, but if you have joint accounts, take his name off or take the money out and open new accounts.

You have children so get any copies of his pay stubs, pension plans, bank accounts, insurance polices for possible future use for child support.

He is a good liar and is now trying to find out what you know and how to spin it. This is why he didn't want to face you immediately, he needs to do some damage control.

He will continue to lie. I personally would want to know what has been going on and the who, what, where, how of it all. It's soul destroying to find out that the person you are with isn't who you thought they were.

It will get worse before it gets better, but you need information before you make decisions. The big red flag is that this woman knows all about you and your family and you know nothing such as if they have children together which could be a factor in your child support if you go that route. For all you know, he may have his name on a house/mortgage with her and other debts you are unaware of.

Change any passwords he knows on your bank, phones, tech.

Find the copies of your children's birth certificates, get copies of the past 3-6 months bills/debts so you can make some financial planning if you end it.

When I confronted my ex after his own daughter saw him with the OW, he spent the day denying and didn't come home as I was unreasonable to accuse him without proof.

My ex lied and told the OW he wasn't even married and I found out the lies and the truths when I sat down with OW's husband and he brought 18 months of their FB messages. She may say she knows all about you, but as a proven liar, who knows what he's told her to be the "truth".

As rough as it is, get as much info that you need to make your decisions. Take care of yourself as you have been dealt a shock.

Hugs to you and yours.

rainbowstardrops · 07/08/2018 05:11

What an absolute arsehole! Eight bloody years???!!!! Shock

Shootingstar23 · 07/08/2018 07:57

Can't even justify the snooping, but here we are! Woke up and he had got into bed, after him storming out - cheek of it. Don't think it's sunk in yet!

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jelly449 · 07/08/2018 08:05

I'm probably way off here but I wonder if it is more an emotional thing? And they haven't met?

I once met this guy on old but he lived the other end of the country to me. We swapped numbers anyway and ended up speaking and messaging every day for 3 years. We became extremely close. We always planned to meet but something always came up on his end. Managed to do some digging and found he had a wife and family etc. That was the end.

But I'm only saying this because of her message that says 'can't wait to speak to you on the phone'

It just reminded me of my relationship with him that's all.

It was also the same story.....she left him and he was getting his life back together. I was helping him through it.

Even so, I'm making no excuses for him here op. He's a twat, you deserve better. It's cheating in my book either way. He is absolutely awful.

I always wanted to message her and let her know enay her husband had been doing for the last 3 years but I never did.

Shootingstar23 · 07/08/2018 08:09

Can't believe how many absolute dicks are out there. Just seen the messages, thanks for all your kind replies. In answer to the questions, been together coming up to 8 years, 2 DC under 5 and I don't know if his family know. Thing that annoys me the most is my friends been coming round for past year because her DH did the same and my DP sat there and said how awful it was.

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Thebluedog · 07/08/2018 09:27

So sorry you’re going through this OP Flowers

Sounds like he’s only going to admit what you’ve got proof for. If it had all been innocent he should have rung her in front of you initially. But him storming out to call her snacks of him covering his back to limit the damage. Regardless of if it’s been physical, he’s lied and lied and lied over the years to you. His capacity for deceit would be the final straw for me

whattimeislove · 07/08/2018 13:16

So what are you going to do OP?

lisasimpsonssaxophone · 07/08/2018 14:59

‘Attack is the best form of defence’ and all that! He’s turned it around on you to deflect from his own wrongdoing. Do NOT fall for that bullshit. Stay angry. YOU are the wronged party here, not him! Remember that.

‘Oh well if I’m so bad why don’t you just dump me then?’ is an absolute classic. Trying to force your hand in the hope that you’ll waver and start apologising to try and patch things up. Please don’t do that.

Mix56 · 07/08/2018 17:14

Throw him out. change the locks

Shootingstar23 · 07/08/2018 20:58

Think it's hit me now, I've taken DC away for few days while he packs his things.

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whattimeislove · 07/08/2018 21:00

It sounds like you need some space OP. It's a massive shock. Hope you're getting some RL support.

Shootingstar23 · 07/08/2018 21:02

@jelly449 he claims exactly what you described. He said he needed the attention so he made up that I'd walked out and left him with DC. He said he only messaged 'them', so guessing more than one. It's all probably BS I'll never know

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jelly449 · 07/08/2018 23:04

@Shootingstar23 sorry to hear that op. He's probably gone on dating sites then? What a twat. Poor guy needing attention...makes me sick. I hope you can get through this op. A lot of people tend to take their other half back for this as they get it into their head that it's not actually cheating. Each to their own but in my head it is. I remember feeling sick and so guilty that this guy I thought I knew, spoke to on the phone every single day for 3 years was taken all along. I felt disgusting. He said he wasn't a cheat etc and that we had never met so he had done nothing wrong Angry

Stay strong, hugs to you. Thanks

AcrossthePond55 · 08/08/2018 00:03

I'm glad you've gone away for a few days. I hope it's to a nice place where you can get some peace and calm.

Fishface77 · 08/08/2018 10:08

You did the right think op. But I bet half your stuff is missing when you get home.

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