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Please help!! I was moody with my fiance and he finished the relationship and now I can't forgive myself!

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SugarBabe18 · 30/07/2018 09:47

Hi All

I was engaged to the one I loved, but I was sometimes moody whilst I was in the relationship. He then ended it and now I cannot stop blaming myself.

Please hear me out first with the reasons why I was moody............

We got engaged even though he was still married to his wife who was in another relationship with a man who she had been having an affair with behind my fiance's back. They had a daughter together. Although we were engaged, he was showing no signs of getting a divorce from his wife. Whenever I brought up the subject, he just used to shrug it off by saying that 'he couldn't get a divorce as his wife would fleece him'. He used to work shifts, but always had his daughter during his free weekends. He always put his wife first and and his daughter, and then it was me. Whilst I totally understood that he should see his daughter and spend time with her during weekends evenings etc., I felt left out and insecure because I felt that I 'just had to slot in with his life', with no consideration to what I wanted, needed or even consulting me. Even when we took his daughter on holiday, his wife demanding seeing her for the day on the Wednesday, so my fiance left me and took his daughter all the way back to where they lived so she could see her daughter.

I also had to put up with my fiance being very insecure and jealous. He didn't want me to speak to other men, and I couldn't even mention an ex boyfriend without him telling me 'to stop talking about him because it made him feel sick to think of me with him'. I landed myself a good job which involved travelling with my boss, and all he said was 'what is that going to do to our relationship'? He didn't want me to go out and he wouldn't even let me buy things without him asking 'why do you want that' or not even letting me have something I wanted in the house like a blind put up at the front door window.

Before all of this started, when we were looking to buy a house together, he told me that I had to live where he wanted to live or we didn't live anywhere. We needed to live near his wife, daughter and his mum, dad and brothers and he told me I had got to break free from my mum's apron strings. We were looking at choosing a new kitchen and I had my heart set on a particular kitchen and his answer was 'my mum doesn't like that kitchen, she wants us to have a different type'.

If I was late home from work (and my fiance was working himself), I would get a call from him asking 'where have you been?' and I'd ask him 'what do you mean?' and he would answer 'you've just arrived home and I know you have because I have my spies'.

On a Saturday, all I wanted to do was to go out shopping into town and have some 'me' time which I had always been used to. If he didn't have his daughter that weekend and I said I was going out, he used to pull a face and tell me that I didn't love him. He made me feel guilty whenever I wasn't doing anything with him.

One day when we went shopping for Christmas presents, he just focused the whole time on what he had to buy for his mum, dad, brothers and daughter. He never once mentioned my family. I then became in a mood and he said 'he was sick of me', but when I retaliated for the first time by telling him I was upset that my family had never come into the equations, he just started crying which made me feel guilty.

It all ended at Christmas that year. I had just had an operation on my foot and it was his mum's 60th birthday party. I was on a lot of pain killers and I really didn't feel up to going. However, I got myself ready and we went. I had a few drinks which wasn't a good idea whilst I was on medication. His aunty asked me 'when are you two getting married then?'. I answered by saying 'how can we get married when he is still married to his wife'? She was horrified and told me that I should make him get a divorce. Well, that just pushed me over the edge and I got up and left the party and went home to bed.

A few hours later, my fiance came back and barged into the bedroom having a go at me saying that 'his brothers have told him to get rid of me, and he has a good mind to do so'.

The next morning I apologised and I thought we had made it up.

On Christmas Eve, my fiance said he would let me spend it at my mum's house as he was on nights. On Christmas morning, he came round to have breakfast with me and my mum. All the time he was there, he didn't make any effort and we could tell that he wanted to get away. He never took my mum a present, flowers or anything for Christmas. Then, as soon as we headed over to his mum and dads, he was all happy and cheerful. I made an effort (like I always did) by taking his mum some flowers and his dad some wine. So, we spent all day at his mum and dads house and he was happy as anything. Then on Boxing Day, he wanted me to go round to his mum and dad's house again as he was taking his daughter with him so as she could open her presents with his mum and dad. My brother had been on his own all over Christmas, and I really didn't want to spend another full day with his mum and dad after I'd just been with them the day before, so I said that I was going round to spend Boxing Day with my brother. He pulled a face as usual but I was adamant I wanted to see my brother. Anyway, that was it. When I returned, he told me that he wanted to buy me out the property and I never saw him again after that. His last words to me were 'you're going to end up sad and alone with no one to love you' and 'even your own dad doesn't want you'. (My mum and dad split when I was about 14 years old and my dad has never wanted anything to do with me).

He got solicitors onto me and was forcing me to get out of the house. This solicitors letters lasted about 2 years and he even sent me letter saying that he was going to come round with his dad to take out all the furniture. So basically, he wanted me to live in the house with no furniture.

He moved in with another woman no long after he had left me in the house. and I found out that they got married at the venue I wanted to get married at. That hurt real bad. The way he was with me i.e. he couldn't let me out of his sight and him always telling me he loved me and if I ever did anything to hurt him his dad would 'break my legs'. I took that as he loved me so much.

Anyway, all I want to know is if it was natural for me to be moody with him and how we were living? Was I wrong to be moody? I blame myself wishing that I had tried harder to be happy and make him happy.

I hold my hands up, I wasn't a saint, but he made me feel guilty for things I used to do. I even said to him one day 'I'm going to get some new shower cleaner as the one you have bought is rubbish' and he answered 'I don't like your attitude'. He has made me question myself, because I don't know how I should have acted and I don't know who I am anymore.

I hold my hands up that I was moody towards him, but I just need to know if anyone else would have been moody whilst living how I was living?

Thank you!

OP posts:
SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 10:22

Hi All

Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to me. Your comments are really appreciated.

Thank you!

OP posts:
whatwouldkeithRichardsdo2 · 31/07/2018 15:07

Your ex is a controlling pig. You have had a lucky escape. Start counting your blessings.
And pity the poor woman now stuck with him. He is an abuser. Keep telling yourself that until you've knocked some sense in.

Nobody gets to tell you what to do, where you can go and basically rules your entire life. Draw a line under it and build yourself up so that you never ever allow someone else to do this to you again.

Bluntness100 · 31/07/2018 15:22

Op, you are clearly not interacting, you're just saying thanks.

What's your thoughts? Will you seek help? Maybe try to date and move on?

SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 15:44

Bluntness100 - I'm sorry, I don't mean not to interact. I'm just overwhelmed by all the comments.

I have just been really beating myself up about it. Thinking back to times when I got home and I just wanted to be alone, or just didn't want to talk to him. I couldn't understand why I was feeling like that towards him. I felt hostile towards him. Why was that? Was it because I wasn't happy but I didn't know it?

If I wanted to be alone and I was quite, he would take it that I didn't love him and he would pull a face. That would make me even more moody. But sometimes, I just wanted to be left alone. Surely other girls have these moods in a relationship and it's not just me out of millions? But, he always knew how to turn it around so he was the victim. Does that make sense? I don't think I am making sense now. I'm just trying to explain how I felt and why I was moody.

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SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 15:58

At the time, I thought I had it all, but I hold my hands up - I was moody (when I say moody, I don't think I was actually moody, I think I was just quiet and didn't want to interact. It wasn't like I'd yell at him or tell him to get lost or anything like that). I never demanded anything of him and I let him do whatever he wanted. I am a genuine girl, who is not perfect, but I have been told by other men that I'm really easy going. So, why has he made me feel like I feel? I think I had to put up with a hell of a lot from him and if anything, shouldn't he have done at least one thing to try and make me happy?

I just don't know who I am anymore and I wouldn't know how to act when around another man for the fear that I'm saying the wrong thing, or I'm doing the wrong thing or if I don't do that, then he'll dump me.

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Bluntness100 · 31/07/2018 16:06

Op, you can't have been happy. No one is happy whilst they are being abused. So you going quiet or wanting to be left alone is natural. I say natural when actually telling him to fuck right off and dumping his sorry ass would have been more natural but when someone takes away your confidence that's hard to do. You weren't moody you were reacting to the bad way he was treating you.

And my husband treats me fine, no abuse, but still there are times I want to be quiet or left alone. We all want our own space now and again, no one needs to be on form all the time. That's not natural.

I don't know how to explain you weren't the problem. He was. The likely hood is he is now abusing the woman he has married, and she will be struggling with whather life has become.

Can you afford therapy or are you happy to see your doctor and ask for a referral? I don't know how quickly they happen, but I think you need to talk it through with someone, a professional to help you through this.

Bluntness100 · 31/07/2018 16:08

And with another man, you don't need to worry about how you behave, what you're looking for is someone who loves you for you. You aren't supposed to change youtself to make someone happy. If you're worried about that in a relationship then the relationship is broken.

SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 16:17

Bluntness100 - thank you for responding.

I have tried several types of therapy. It works at the time, and I'm okay for a day or so, but then the beating myself up starts again.

I'm really glad that you have said that normal people do have times when they want to be alone etc or are in a bad mood. Its just seemed that everything I did, he frowned upon. Unless of course it had something to do with what he wanted to do, then he was all happy and cheery.

Looking back, him accusing me of 'seeing another man' after I got home from a day out wasn't nice at all. It didn't mean he loved me at all. I must have been stupid!

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SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 16:24

Bluntness100 - Also, after he had left me and left me in the house. It was about a year on and one Saturday afternoon, he let himself into the house with his dad and started having a go at me about wanting to reduce the price of the property. I was so frightened and I couldn't believe that he had 1. let himself in the house after so long and 2. brought his dad with him as back up! (My ex was very well built and always at the gym and I am nearly 100% sure that he was on steroids). So to have him turn up with his dad out of the blue, really frightened me. That is bad isn't it?

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Bluntness100 · 31/07/2018 16:29

Yes, it's bad but it's all bad, it really is.

It's normal to have down days, to not want to spend time every weekend with his parents, to not always want to be last on the list, to want alone time, or even just to wake up in a bad mood.

And it's not normal to threaten people you love, to control them, to tell them how to behave.

It really was him and not you.

However, I mean this gently. Now it is you. Because you need to get out of the cycle of focusing on this piece of shit and what happened and you especially have to stop thinking about how you could have behaved differently. You're wasting your life on a man who not only has moved on, but who was never worth it in the first place. You don't get this time back, we only have one life, so for your sake moving on, and focusing on getting yourself happy is what's important here.

eightfacesofthemoon · 31/07/2018 16:39

I agree with bluntness

Every single normal human being is grumpy wants time alone, can be a touch moody. Sometimes.
It’s normal

SugarBabe18 · 31/07/2018 16:49

Bluntness100 - I do realise it is me now. But, I have had 1 relationship after him, only to be treated badly again, and so I ended it first.

I just keep going back to that relationship because I genuinely did love him and I've never felt that about another man before. All the others, I haven't really had strong feelings for and have just 'settled'. I think that I am just frightened that I'm never going to find anyone I have those feelings for again, and I think that is why I keep punishing myself and telling myself that that was my own chance to feel like that.

Does that make sense?

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MistressDeeCee · 31/07/2018 20:51

Love isn't about ownership. You speak as if you owned him and are wounded that your possession has gone.

You didn't own him hence you couldn't have forced him to stay. Nor can you control another person's actions or reactions in 'if I act in this way he HAS to or SHOULD or WOULD have stayed'.

I agree with Bluntness, and other posters who've taken the time to give some good measured advice. But you seem resolutely determined to try to hold on to a man who is no longer your partner, and isn't even available. He is married.

Notwithstanding he was a waste of space you sound very intense to be around, which also would have done your toxic relationship with him no good.

You need to let go and get on with your life. He is with his wife, not you. Again, counselling to explore your thoughts and feelings would be useful. You need professional help

Lizzie48 · 31/07/2018 22:44

Sadly, OP, you make me think of my DB, who has been obsessed with his ex for over 20 years. He goes to places where they were together and travels to the country she cones from, just to feel close to her. I'm just grateful that he doesn't know where she lives, otherwise he could end up being accused of stalking her. And, like yours, it was a toxic relationship and it would never have worked out.

He's now 50 and has serious MH issues going back to our abusive childhood.

I'm obviously not saying that you're in anything like as bad a place as he is now. But then I never expected my DB to end up where he is now. Don't let life pass you by while you obsess about what might have been. Please get yourself the help you need and move on from this.

mumofthe21stcentury · 31/07/2018 22:51

He was emotionally abusing you. He closes a classic signs of abuser - lower your self esteem to make you dependent on him, cut you off from your family and everything has to be his way or the high way.

Weepingangels · 31/07/2018 23:45

He is abusive. He is bad news for you. Why would you want a person like that?

MrsStefanie · 17/07/2019 13:08

Wow people saying they can't read all of it and they have lives, so rude! Don't read it and don't reply! Simple!! This has all happened for a reason to teach you a valuable lesson, he wasn't right for you, I'm surprised he's been right for someone else to be honest! He sounds like he needs to grow up! You've had a lucky escape you would of been so unhappy as time went on and started to resent and despise him! Things happen for a reason, most things do and the person that's meant for you I'm sure is round the corner Smile

MrsStefanie · 17/07/2019 13:09

Sorry just realised this was last year Shocksorry I'm new to this site! Well I'm sure a lots changed since then Smile

Scorpiovenus · 17/07/2019 13:35

This genuinely made me sad

This is horrible to read :(

You really need to walk away from this mess and his baggage.

willowmelangell · 17/07/2019 13:46

This is an old thread. Makes for very, very sad reading. I hope the OP has managed to start moving on.

SolsticeBabyMaybe · 17/07/2019 13:52

Sounds like a pretty shit relationship. Definitely move on and forget!

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