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Anyone else hiding in their bedroom?

91 replies

Frizzbeol · 11/07/2018 22:05

Well my son has just smashed up the shed and my ex who is here to watch the football has screamed at me that I am a moron and a stupid fucking cunt. All over a game of fucking football

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MakeMineATwin2 · 12/07/2018 07:00

This is so sad. I read that dv increases if England loose. I saw the slogan ' if England gets beat, so will she' it really sent a chill down my spine.

I think you need to completely get your ex out of yours and ds life. He is a very, very bad influence!

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 12/07/2018 07:04

If your son is so unable to handele disappointment - and in a way, not getting his own way - that he smashes up the shed, then:

A) He is not a “lovely boy”.
B) Yes, he could well end up in prison if the next time he has a “one off violent outburst” a person is on the receiving end of his fists instead of the shed.

rollingonariver · 12/07/2018 07:09

Op, I'm sure your son IS a lovely boy but imagine it's your partner who goes out and smashes things up when they get drunk and something doesn't go their way. That's abusive behaviour! There's no two ways about it.
Do you think that when he moves in with a girl that will stop? He's following in his father's footsteps (which is absolutely not your fault). Sit him down and tell him it's wrong or don't allow the cycle of abuse to continue.

Fiftysix · 12/07/2018 07:09

Op-ed. Just for context, how old are you children ? What was the youngest child doing ?

Degustibusnonestdisputandem1 · 12/07/2018 07:15

Not a normal reaction at all, I hope you're ok, OP. DH and I watched the game, said to each other, 'oh fuck!' , then decided to watch a nature doco before going to bed. That's what I'd call a fairly normal reaction (and he is sports mad!). Thanks to anyone who's suffered last night 😔

Limpopobongo · 12/07/2018 07:22

So many EX men hang around the home like a bad smell. If they are EXs they need to be kept out and why? because their constant return is like a cat marking its territory and it is a form of remote control . They are effectively monitoring, controlling and preventing you from living your life and moving on.

MakeMineATwin2 · 12/07/2018 07:22

Me and dp looked at each other and laughed. ( I think he was laughing so much he was 'crying' lol)

I blamed him for not buying salted nuts like he had done for all the other matches we won, and he blamed me for not wearing my football top! (All lightheaded)

DownTownAbbey · 12/07/2018 07:23

You've done brilliantly leaving your abusive relationship! But there's still work to be done.

Why is ex coming to your home to see DCs? He must live somewhere so he can see DCs there or anywhere else but at your home. If he has rights to access your property as co owner you need to sort that out. It is in no way normal or desirable to allow an abusive ex access to your sanctuary.

It looks like aggression has been normalised and your DC have learned this from their 'D'F. I'm sure that your son is lovely most of the time. But if you can remember back to when you first met your ex he was probably lovely sometimes (or you wouldn't have stuck with him). Your son needs help. I don't know any of my friends lovely sons who smash shit up because of a football match. The one young man I know who is abusive to his partner learnt everything at his father's knee. His DM thinks he's lovely.

You did the right thing lying low last night. But today needs to be the beginning of making sure nothing like this happens again.

fontofnoknowledge · 12/07/2018 07:34

I think that the vast majority of people are completely perplexed as to why your ex is anywhere near your home. Frizzbeol.

My DH has a very very poor relationship with his ex w. They communicate only by email and solely on issues related to the 4 children.
Pick up/drop off are no longer an issue as they are of an age to come on their own but when they were - they ran out to the car and he picked the bag of clothes up from the doorstep.

Why have I told you this OP ? Because it gives a view of appropriate interaction between parents who can't be civilised to each other. He NEVER enters the former marital home. She NEVER enters ours. They NEVER speak to each other. My DH ex has NEVER had cause to feel afraid in her own home . We have never had cause to be in fear of her causing upset at ours.
... and the level of hostility has NEVER involved violence in any shape or former and certainly, no one has EVER called their ex spouse a 'moron and a stupid fucking cunt'

Your bar of acceptance seems to be incredibly low. I think people are wondering why he is allowed in the house at all when he is abusive.

I think people fear that whilst you tell yourself that you have ;

the nevessary insight and strength to say enough. I ended our relationship two years ago and have't looked back.

...the reality you describe tonight appears quite different - in that he appears to be able to use your house as and when he likes.

'Coming to see the children frequently '. 'Sleeping on the sofa'. 'Drinking in the Garage with your sons mates' You forced to stay in your bedroom all evening in order to avoid further abusive behaviour in your own home.

None of which sound like choices you would make.
It's for that reason that people are concerned that you are minimising and may need additional professional help to deal with the continuing DV.

Flisspaps · 12/07/2018 07:48

OP, have you done the Freedom Programme?

It might help you understand why your lovely son smashed up the shed, and why your ex thinks it's ok to call you names in your home even though he doesn't live there.

It's nothing to do with the football. It's nothing to do with drink.

It's everything to do with their perception of women and their own role in the works,

Ellisandra · 12/07/2018 08:05

I’m sorry you went through that and I’m glad you have already got rid of your awful ex.

Please please please though - drop the blinkers over your son. What he did is not normal, your normal has been fucked up by your ex. I know it is hard to read, but your son is not nice. Your son is a violent drunk who will one day have a girlfriend cowering, afraid that his drunken violence will turn on her. He has learned from his father. Get him into counselling NOW.
Fixing the shed? That’s exactly the same as buying your girlfriend flowers after you’ve beaten her Sad It’s meaningless. Do not kid yourself that you can ignore his behaviour because he fixes up the shed.

Fiftysix · 12/07/2018 08:37

I do realise OP is probably stll asleep (as are a lot of people)so really cant answer questions,but i do want to know how old her children are. 2 ds? Under 17? Where was the youngest, were they upstairs with OP?

Kittykat93 · 12/07/2018 08:57

OP you really need to help your son before he ends up exactly like his father. Stop letting your violent and abusive ex come round your house too; if they want to watch a football match tell them they go to their dads, not allow him to come to yours and verbally assault you in your own home.

Catsick36 · 12/07/2018 09:44

What a horrible thing to have to go through and deal with. You're showing strong boundaries to your son. He knows not to do that again. As for your ex. Well another reminder for you why he's an ex. Power to you getting rid. Keep him away now.

bethy15 · 12/07/2018 15:49

You may have ties that bind your ex to you forever, but you do not have to entertain him, and you certainly do not need for him to sleep over at yours, even on the sofa.

He must have a home with a tv where he could have watched the football? Or if not a pub. It's not right that you ended up having to endure further abuse from him, or your son and it's not right you felt unsafe in your own home that you felt you had to hide away.
I firmly believe he is still exerting control over you in being around your house so much. You have to make a cleaner break from him and create a safe space in your own home that he cannot come and go from as he pleases, and especially not stay overnight.

I would also say that your son needs some help. It's understandable, I was raised in a house where I saw anger expressed with rage and found myself doing similar things. I was ashamed of myself and really had to work on it. But I am a woman and I am not in a relationship. Your son could repeat the mistakes of his father without proper help.

Good luck with everything. Your son with help can change.
I had another set back yesterday, not from the football, but something else. I was upset and felt anger coming to the surface, but I took a walk in the garden, learnt how to process my anger and work out how I was feeling without having to smash anything or do anything destructive.

PamsterWheel · 12/07/2018 17:32

Great post @bethy15

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