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I've been an idiot

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notjustvanillaicecream · 27/05/2018 17:19

This is going to be long so well done for anyone who gets to the end! Just wanted to avoid drip-feeding anything.

My partner and I have been together for 8 years. We have never lived together, not married/engaged, no children. For the past 3 years I have been living away from our hometown as I got an opportunity to retrain for a new career (healthcare related) and I have subsequently taken a permanent job. I finished uni last summer and took a job in September. The career opportunities for me at home are very poor until I have enough experience built up. I am approximately a 1 hour flight away from home. Typically I come home twice per month, and he visits me once per month. I also spend most of my annual leave taking trips home, around a week every three months.

Not sure how relevant this is but he spent 7 months away from home two years before I first left - he was in another European country - I suppose this was why we have managed to keep things going this long because we knew from quite early on we could make a distance relationship work.

Currently we have been arguing about our relationship - the distance is hard with no end in sight. My job is very specific and I'm quite late in starting my career so I feel that I should be making the most of any opportunities so as I can move home when a suitable job comes up. I did apply for work at home but no opportunities have come up. The way it works at home is anyone who wants a job at entry level as what I do is interviewed once a year and their name goes on a list as to how well they did at interview, the first job that comes up is given to the highest scoring applicant and so on. So applicants don't get a choice about what sort of team or speciality they are going into. At the next highest grade, individual posts are advertised but you need to have 2-3 years post qualification experience at either entry level or a higher grade.

I said before I took my first job that if we were getting married or buying a house I would have considered staying at home because then I knew the relationship was a priority for both of us. However I didn't feel it was the right thing to do to prioritise a relationship I have no guarantee of the long term outcome of. He wasn't particularly happy but we agreed the visiting frequency at that time.

He has always been very clear that he would never consider living away from our hometown - that he would never consider moving to be with me. I am certain he would be able to get a job as in his industry he has a lot of transferrable skills.

Since then I have moved jobs into a role where I am very happy and have an interview for a promotion to the next highest grade next week. It is a fantastic opportunity and would definitely benefit my long term career whether here or at home. This has caused a lot of problems as it would likely mean I might be away for longer as I'd then be trying to get home at the higher grade of job - he feels that he is continuing in this distance relationship, waiting for something that may not happen (i.e. me coming home). However I feel like I'm continuing in the relationship waiting for something that may not happen (i.e. getting engaged or buying a house). He has always said that he will not consider proposing or buying a house until I do come home. The distance is hard but I've been doing all I can to make it work. He feels that the majority of the effort should be made by me as it was my choice to leave home, and also that when I come home I also see friends and family, its not 100% about him.

So things have been at a bit of an impasse. It ultimately was coming down to me choosing between my career and my relationship. I felt that my career should take priority, and that I don't physically think I can do more to make things work.

In the meantime I've got friendly with someone at work. He came round to my flat on Friday night and one thing led to another and we ended up sleeping together. I am so ashamed of myself. I know that I will 100% never ever do anything like this again. It showed me that I love my partner and I don't want to lose him, I just can't see myself ever being with anyone else. This is so out of character for me. Even in my single days I'd never have a one night stand. I was cheated on before and I know how it feels and I can't believe I've done this to my lovely partner, he does not deserve it.

In the morning I phoned my partner and told him everything, I was 100% honest and answered the difficult questions. He was shocked and completely deservedly called me disgusting, pointing out he had been faithful to me for the 8 years even when women were throwing themselves at him. I took full accountability for what happened, profusely apologised and told him I love him. He told me during this conversation he has actually been looking at jobs closer to me.

Since then I've sent him a few messages reiterating how sorry I am, my regret and how this has been the biggest mistake of my life, which I can see he has read, but I've had no reply. To be fair I don't expect or deserve a reply. But I'm taking comfort in the fact he hasn't blocked me. The latest I've said is that I could come home this weekend and try to arrange some counselling, certainly for me to try to understand what went so wrong that I felt the need to do this; but that I could leave it open so it could be a couples session if he wanted.

I guess I am posting because I'd really like to hear from anyone who has been in a similar situation and if you have been able to rebuild things, and what has worked or what to be aware of. I don't know where his head is at but I'm just clinging to the hope he realises how sorry I am and how much I regret it.

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ElspethFlashman · 27/05/2018 17:25

But you're still not intending to move home? The relationship has no future.

Even if he got down on one knee tomorrow and was offering you a dream house, it doesn't sound like you have many job opportunities at home at all.

It's commendable to him that he was looking at jobs near you to break the impasse but if I were him I'd stop that pronto. There is no way I'd move away from my friends and family for someone who had just cheated on me.

I think the relationship is pretty much dead in the water and tbh I think it's been dying for a while anyway. You just put the final bullet in it.

TheMonkeyMummy · 27/05/2018 17:48

Right now you are feeling awful, but this could be the start of a new beginning for you. It sounds like your OH won't commit until you go back home, sacrificing your career and dreams.

You didn't accidentally sleep with someone. You might regret it now, but I think you need to spread your wings a little. And it is kinder to cut your OH loose now, rather than later.

heyday · 27/05/2018 17:50

It's now time to evaluate your lives. Relationships can be really hard going and long distance ones certainly have huge challenges.....temptations from some more readily available being one of the key ones. You need to give him some space. I honestly think that the trust in your relationship has gone now and may never come back. Hopefully you can talk things through, but this may well be the beginning of the end.

VogueVVague · 27/05/2018 17:51

Dont beat yourself up.

This is a natural turning point.

Tell him there are two options: either he considers you both moving to somewhere different with job opportunities for you both, or you part ways. Its really the only solution.

notjustvanillaicecream · 27/05/2018 17:54

The way I had seen it was , and I did explain this to him, we have been apart for 3 years, what is another year or two if it means better long term career prospects?

And yes you're right, if he got down on one knee tomorrow it's not like I'd jump straight on a plane but I'd be able to re-evaluate how my career and relationship fit together. I'd maybe be able to look at agency temping (not a reliable long term option) or even get work outside my career like working in a bar or shop to pay the bills.

I agree how commendable it was he had begun to look at jobs - I had no idea he was looking at jobs near me even though he dislikes his current job. He's not the greatest communicator and he does find phonecalls a bit of a chore so there's nothing particularly unusual in him not having told me. But because he has been so completely adamant in the past that he'd never consider it, I was completely stunned when he told me.

Thank you for your honesty. It may well be dead in the water but for me it's the wakeup call I've needed to see what I have and what I'm willing to fight for. After 8 years I just can't bear the thought of losing him forever over one stupid, stupid mistake.

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category12 · 27/05/2018 17:59

Well, tbh, I'm not sure I'd believe him about him having been looking at work closer to you. It's very convenient that he can suddenly throw that in your face after years of being clear he'd never leave his hometown. Hmm

Yes, you've done the wrong thing, but tbh, you don't want the same things - he's always wanted to stay where he is and for you to give up your career dreams, without giving you marriage or mortgage until you do - so basically give everything up for nothing solid.

I think it's time to face the facts - this isn't going to work out for you. Take it as an ending. Give yourself a chance to find someone on the same page.

VogueVVague · 27/05/2018 18:02

I also dont think he was looking for jobs. That was just a guilt tripping lie.
Also he finds phone calls a bit of a chore?

OP cut him loose.

ElspethFlashman · 27/05/2018 18:02

Willing to fight for? With respect, how? You have no intention of living in the same town as him for another 2 years.

And that's not a criticism as it sounds like there's little for you at home. But you can't repair this long distance when he's not even that good on the phone!

SparklyMagpie · 27/05/2018 18:10

Agree with PP's

Thu I wouldn't text him anymore now either and would give him a little break, he'll need some time to get his head round things

Like you said, something made you do it, exploring that would be wise

SparklyMagpie · 27/05/2018 18:11

*thu = though

OverTheHedgeHammy · 27/05/2018 18:13

Bollocks he's been looking at jobs near you! How convenient that this is the first time its come up and he now has a justifiable reason to 'stop looking'. He has no intention of being flexible.

He will never put the relationship first, he's admitted as much by refusing to consider moving.

SparklyMagpie · 27/05/2018 18:13

And I'll add how convenient it was that he was looking for jobs closer to you after you revealed the ONS

I'd personally cut things off now, I don't condone what you did, but he doesn't seem all that great either

MrsCD67 · 27/05/2018 18:15

'It showed me that I love my partner'
Most people don't need to sleep with someone else in order to decide whether they love the person they're with

SparklyMagpie · 27/05/2018 18:15

Give him some space and I'm sure you'll see quickly how much he thinks of the relationship, I predict lots of guilt trips and making you do the running around more than you already were doing

MyOtherProfile · 27/05/2018 18:18

So you called him last Sat, have messaged him since and no replies a week later? I think he has already decided it is over I'm afraid. And I agree with a PP, you didny accidentally sleep with someone else but were subconsciously looking for something else. If this relationship were a priority for either of you you would be living in the same place by now.

MadMags · 27/05/2018 18:19

You obviously need to end it. You're living away and you shagged someone else.

You're not going back there, and he wasn't moving until he found out.

You're not a victim by any stretch but I don't think he is either really. I mean honestly what is the point?

sofato5miles · 27/05/2018 18:22

I would say this relationship has run its course.

Also, another one saying don't beat yourself up. Calm down. Wait for him to contact you and some grand gestures ( good and bad) but neither of you were that convinced by the future.

notjustvanillaicecream · 27/05/2018 18:39

I hadn't occurred to me that he might not have been looking at jobs over here. Before I broke the news I did have a bit of chit chat with him and he never mentioned looking for jobs at that point - whereas surely he'd have thought I'd be pleased to hear it and made it a priority thing to tell me.

He has always been difficult over the phone - last year we made a big effort to have a 10 minute conversation every day, and to discuss one thing about our day and one thing on the news - just so we have something to talk about but that fell by the wayside very quickly. So yes, phonecalls would not be the ideal way to try to get this sorted out. And I don't know how much more running around I can physically do. So Elspeth that is a wise point - not quite sure how to go about it.

Of course I didn't sleep with the ONS by accident - I take full responsibility for my actions. I could have stopped at any point but I didn't and I need to try to understand why I let that happen, hence why I feel like some sort of counselling might be in order. The guilt of being away from him and making him continue with this long distance relationship has really been affecting me, maybe I was looking for a way to cut ties with no going back. I do think I would resent him if I moved home and gave up everything I have worked so hard for.

We did have a break 4 years ago before I even applied to uni, because we thought we wanted different things, but we didn't even want to meet anyone else during that time and it did make us a lot stronger. This feels a little bit like that in that it took me the time away from him to see how much I do love him. It's not like I set out to have an ONS to test how much I love him.

The one night stand happened on Friday, I phoned him on the Saturday morning i.e. yesterday, so no replies since yesterday. I think you ladies are right, I need to stop messaging him and leave the ball in his court for a bit to see what happens.

And thank you to those who have acknowledged how much I hate myself right now. That does help. If this is the end, it shouldn't have been in such a hurtful way for him.

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TheMonkeyMummy · 27/05/2018 19:00

What about the ons? Will you see that person tomorrow? Have you had contact?

notjustvanillaicecream · 27/05/2018 19:11

The ONS was aware of the background and has been in touch, I've explained what has happened and he was very apologetic even though I've made clear I see the whole thing as my wrongdoing.
I do see him from time to time at work (we do quite different jobs) but he's very professional so I don't see it being awkward at all when I do bump into him. I'm not going to make plans to see him either. He is also a nice bloke and I'm sorry he has been dragged into the whole thing too.

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TheMonkeyMummy · 27/05/2018 19:45

Good. Sounds like you are acting as fairly as possible for everyone involved.

Bluetrews25 · 27/05/2018 20:08

Sounds like the relationship was all on your partner's terms - he won't move, you must move back, he won't consider any change or commitment yet.
I also do not buy the looking for jobs nearer you thing.
It was already dead when you had the ONS.
Let him go. You only felt bad and confessed and 'realised how much you loved him' when you felt the fear of losing the familiar (but appallingly one-sided) relationship you have been dragged down by for such a long time. Knowing does not equal loving, but many confuse the two.
It's time for you to be happy and not work so hard to keep this old habit going.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 27/05/2018 21:12

A relationship needs to progress to survive and yours isn't. And TBH a man so set in his ways he won't contemplate leaving his home town even while he's young (and I don't believe he's been looking for jobs elsewhere) would be a bloody nightmare to be married to. I'd pursue things with the colleague, he sounds nice Wink

Cricrichan · 27/05/2018 21:16

Neither if you were willing to give an inch to be together. I don't think your relationship stands a chance. Cut each other loose ...

notjustvanillaicecream · 28/05/2018 09:04

He has asked me to fly home today to talk. I don't think things are hopeful but I figure it's the least I owe him to give him a chance to vent his anger at me. Thank you everyone for you perspectives and words of wisdom Flowers

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