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I've been an idiot

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notjustvanillaicecream · 27/05/2018 17:19

This is going to be long so well done for anyone who gets to the end! Just wanted to avoid drip-feeding anything.

My partner and I have been together for 8 years. We have never lived together, not married/engaged, no children. For the past 3 years I have been living away from our hometown as I got an opportunity to retrain for a new career (healthcare related) and I have subsequently taken a permanent job. I finished uni last summer and took a job in September. The career opportunities for me at home are very poor until I have enough experience built up. I am approximately a 1 hour flight away from home. Typically I come home twice per month, and he visits me once per month. I also spend most of my annual leave taking trips home, around a week every three months.

Not sure how relevant this is but he spent 7 months away from home two years before I first left - he was in another European country - I suppose this was why we have managed to keep things going this long because we knew from quite early on we could make a distance relationship work.

Currently we have been arguing about our relationship - the distance is hard with no end in sight. My job is very specific and I'm quite late in starting my career so I feel that I should be making the most of any opportunities so as I can move home when a suitable job comes up. I did apply for work at home but no opportunities have come up. The way it works at home is anyone who wants a job at entry level as what I do is interviewed once a year and their name goes on a list as to how well they did at interview, the first job that comes up is given to the highest scoring applicant and so on. So applicants don't get a choice about what sort of team or speciality they are going into. At the next highest grade, individual posts are advertised but you need to have 2-3 years post qualification experience at either entry level or a higher grade.

I said before I took my first job that if we were getting married or buying a house I would have considered staying at home because then I knew the relationship was a priority for both of us. However I didn't feel it was the right thing to do to prioritise a relationship I have no guarantee of the long term outcome of. He wasn't particularly happy but we agreed the visiting frequency at that time.

He has always been very clear that he would never consider living away from our hometown - that he would never consider moving to be with me. I am certain he would be able to get a job as in his industry he has a lot of transferrable skills.

Since then I have moved jobs into a role where I am very happy and have an interview for a promotion to the next highest grade next week. It is a fantastic opportunity and would definitely benefit my long term career whether here or at home. This has caused a lot of problems as it would likely mean I might be away for longer as I'd then be trying to get home at the higher grade of job - he feels that he is continuing in this distance relationship, waiting for something that may not happen (i.e. me coming home). However I feel like I'm continuing in the relationship waiting for something that may not happen (i.e. getting engaged or buying a house). He has always said that he will not consider proposing or buying a house until I do come home. The distance is hard but I've been doing all I can to make it work. He feels that the majority of the effort should be made by me as it was my choice to leave home, and also that when I come home I also see friends and family, its not 100% about him.

So things have been at a bit of an impasse. It ultimately was coming down to me choosing between my career and my relationship. I felt that my career should take priority, and that I don't physically think I can do more to make things work.

In the meantime I've got friendly with someone at work. He came round to my flat on Friday night and one thing led to another and we ended up sleeping together. I am so ashamed of myself. I know that I will 100% never ever do anything like this again. It showed me that I love my partner and I don't want to lose him, I just can't see myself ever being with anyone else. This is so out of character for me. Even in my single days I'd never have a one night stand. I was cheated on before and I know how it feels and I can't believe I've done this to my lovely partner, he does not deserve it.

In the morning I phoned my partner and told him everything, I was 100% honest and answered the difficult questions. He was shocked and completely deservedly called me disgusting, pointing out he had been faithful to me for the 8 years even when women were throwing themselves at him. I took full accountability for what happened, profusely apologised and told him I love him. He told me during this conversation he has actually been looking at jobs closer to me.

Since then I've sent him a few messages reiterating how sorry I am, my regret and how this has been the biggest mistake of my life, which I can see he has read, but I've had no reply. To be fair I don't expect or deserve a reply. But I'm taking comfort in the fact he hasn't blocked me. The latest I've said is that I could come home this weekend and try to arrange some counselling, certainly for me to try to understand what went so wrong that I felt the need to do this; but that I could leave it open so it could be a couples session if he wanted.

I guess I am posting because I'd really like to hear from anyone who has been in a similar situation and if you have been able to rebuild things, and what has worked or what to be aware of. I don't know where his head is at but I'm just clinging to the hope he realises how sorry I am and how much I regret it.

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 28/05/2018 09:15

I'm with cric. Relationships are built on compromise and flexibility; sometimes - you'd never get anything done as a couple, otherwise. You have to take the other persons feelings into consideration.

You two can't; here; and whether that is right or wrong, it means there is no future. You don't want to go home, for understandable reasons, he doesn't want to leave home. It means your only hope is a long distance relationship that hasn't really matured at all in 8 years, and has no real hope of progressing.

Go home. Be kind to him; but also to yourself. Don't make any promises that you can't keep; and don't throw yourself under a bus to try and save this when every indication is that it'll fall apart anyway.

category12 · 28/05/2018 09:25

What anchor says don't throw yourself under a bus to try and save this. Remember your own needs, don't find yourself giving everything away to try and save it.

Zaphodsotherhead · 28/05/2018 09:36

I think it's over. And I think you know it.

It sounds like one of those relationships that are great at the time but then just become a habit. I don't think he had any intention of looking for a job closer to you (or, if he did, it was a cursory 'oh look, there's nothing for me there' kind of look). He's trying to bring you back with crumbs.

I know you think you love him, but honestly, I think it's more a habit that you ought to break. Get yourself out there in the world, work towards your chosen career. He sounds like a bit of a millstone, to be honest.

VogueVVague · 28/05/2018 09:38

Why doesnt he fly out to you

cuddlymunchkin · 28/05/2018 09:44

"I was looking for jobs in your area..." but didn't tell you? I call bullshit. He wants to look like the good guy and you're the one being the bad guy and ending things but he hasn't put in the effort, the commitment, it's just not going to work. The important thing to realise is that it's not your fault but that he will definitely try to dress it up that way. Be aware, make the relationship break, enjoy your job and enjoy time by yourself for a bit.

MrsBobDylan · 28/05/2018 09:44

I also think he was guilt tripping you with the looking for jobs near you line. Honestly, he sounds like an ex of mine who would never commit to the next stage until I finished it and he told me that he was going to propose.

After 8 years together it will be very hard to move on but I think you have a great chance here to build your career and find someone less controlling.

bonnyshide · 28/05/2018 09:45

Is he really looking for jobs closer to you, or did he just say that to add to your guilt?

I really don't think your relationship has a future, neither of you have made it a priority.

Your DP, in particular, has made no sacrifices to be with you.

m0vinf0rward · 28/05/2018 10:49

Nothing says "I love you" like sleeping with someone else. You wouldn't have done it if you lived him.

Aus84 · 28/05/2018 11:20

“ It showed me that I love my partner and I don't want to lose him, I just can't see myself ever being with anyone else.”

Perhaps what you felt is with the other guy is strange and unfamiliar and it made you immediately want the familiar feeling of being with your partner of 8 years. I absolutely think you could be with someone else, it’s just hard to imagine after so long with somebody. You have a whole life to live, 8 years is such a small amount of time in comparison. It seems that you would have to sacrifice a lot to stay with your partner, which could lead to resentment and ‘what ifs” down the track.

seventh · 28/05/2018 11:28

The relationship sounds meh to me. I'd end it, stay where you are and date other men. If you and current DP are meant to be, it'll be .... but it just sounds meh, so I don't think it's meant to be

SandAndSea · 28/05/2018 11:41

I'm also not entirely convinced he's been looking at jobs. (Maybe he glanced at one in passing.)

He also seems quick to make you responsible for everything (even before the ons).

Overall, it sounds to me that you want different things.

fluffyrobin · 28/05/2018 11:44

I think you are the cusp of something great op and neither of these 2 are right for you but that's ok!

Just because the ONS wasn't great it doesn't mean you have to have the other!

Don't you think it's deeply unattractive and limiting having to tie yourself down to someone who HAS to live in your hometown?

Let your wings fly, explore new people and opportunities.

The world is your oyster. Well done for doing well in your career and well done for being so honest.

Be single for a while and enjoy your freedom.

seventh · 28/05/2018 11:46

The app doesn't appear to give the length of the thread ( number of pages) and I only access MN from the app. Yet more reason to read the whole damn thing first Blush

Sorry again @notjustvanillaicecream

notjustvanillaicecream · 28/05/2018 18:19

So I've been home to see him and it's hard to say what will happen going forwards. He is willing to give things another try but like some of you predicted it will take a huge effort from me. His requests are:
-Come home every weekend
-Come home at least once during the week (VERY difficult due to flight times)
-Come home permanently ASAP - He wants me to hand my notice in with no job to come home to.
It's that or we call it a day. He knows it is a shit choice. I honestly expected him to tell me that he didn't want to have anything further to do with me and that I was coming home for him to end it once and for all. I have a lot of thinking to do.
It turns out he genuinely was looking at jobs - the real kicker is that he did actually find the perfect job in a village very close to where I currently live. He was able to tell me enough about it for me to know he is telling the truth.

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VogueVVague · 28/05/2018 18:20

OK Im going to say it - I think you can do better than him

MadMags · 28/05/2018 18:31

the real kicker is that he did actually find the perfect job in a village very close to where I currently live.

Why can’t he take it?

fluffyrobin · 28/05/2018 18:32

Omg can't even believe you would consider caging yourself with this man.

You can do so much better.

He doesn't even sound as if he appreciates the fact you have retrained and have done well career wise!

Now he's asking you to chuck it all in!

Red flags.

Your ideal partner will be happy for you to do well, will make you happy, will want what is best for you, will not make ridiculous and unsustainable demands.

You have been warned.

OverTheHedgeHammy · 28/05/2018 18:34

If you move to him you will be trapped for the rest of your life together with him. He will ALWAYS have the upper hand now, he will never move away, and you won't ever get the job you want. You will have to settle for some second rate job that you haven't trained for.

What you did was wrong, but probably the best chance you ever had of breaking free from him.

Please don't move.

DurdleDoors · 28/05/2018 18:44

Well, you have your answer. Who's to say he'd actually get the job? If he were serious about getting this job, he'd go for it, not place all these rules and restrictions on you. I'm sorry OP, it's over. He sounds like he has the potential to be very controlling. Enjoy your life free from your one horse home town and be rest assured, he'll stay there and fester.

Olddear · 28/05/2018 19:03

He wasn't looking for jobs near you. That's 'see, what you could have had, if only you hadn't mucked up' I'd call it quits tbh.

Guiltypleasures001 · 28/05/2018 19:21

I think your relationship has ran its natural course op, there's no give and take, I call bullshit to his nearer job search, but still bad form for the shag, but you know that

I think the guilt is making you say how much you love him, if your really deeply honest it's all a habit? Make the break and do what you need to get to your much worked for job and future.

SusanDelfino · 28/05/2018 19:58

Oh god! Please do not agree to his conditions. He will punish you forever.

category12 · 28/05/2018 20:13

Soooo, he gets everything he wanted from the start and you have to give up your independence, your career and your future.

Don't do it, op. Don't do it.

TheMonkeyMummy · 28/05/2018 20:16

I have to agree with everyone else. Those conditions are all in his interests and not in yours.

Run. Run for the hills.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 28/05/2018 20:24

Don't do it. Even if you agree to those terms, he's setting you up to fail. He'd see you jobless and homeless and make you take the blame.

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