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Father of my unborn baby is racist against me

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StarofBethlehem2018 · 22/04/2018 21:09

Please bear with me if this all comes out a bit garbled, I’m kind of in a state.

In a nutshell: I am pregnant by my ex. I was completely in love with this guy but actually it was a seriously abusive relationship. On top of everything else, he is viciously racist and I was naive enough not to see it.

The pregnancy wasn’t planned (contraception failure). Before we ever had sex we’d actually talked about what we’d do if I got pregnant. I’d said I don’t believe in abortion. He’d said he doesn’t either. He's making threats to harm me

He’s British Pakistani and Muslim. I’m mixed-race African/British. He’s said all manner of disparaging things about black people throughout the relationship. It reached a point eventually where he said he’s “just not willing to commit to a black woman” but that it’d be different if I was white or anything other than black. He’a also said such awful, awful things. He won’t even refer to my child as his baby. He sent me this email demanding I get an abortion and saying he will take me to court for refusing to get an abortion. He wrote: “If you really want a baby go and find someone who cares about you.”

He sent other messages where he’s said he will be the baby’s “friend” and will pay support “when he can.” When I told him he’s the baby’s dad not its friend and that he has to pay child support every month, not just when he can, he went absolutely mental. He won’t even refer to my child as his baby or even as a baby now at all, he just said the baby’s a “mistake.”

A friend sent me a supportive message once she realised I was keeping the baby, telling me a baby’s a blessing and congratulating me. The ex went berserk and said I had no right to be congratulated and that he doesn’t understand why I am not “ashamed” of being pregnant.

He’s made direct threats now to harm me. Insisting still that he’s not willing to “let” me have his baby and that “I didn’t want a baby with you!” (because I’m black). One of his last messages said: “We’ll go to the hospital and support you through the abortion process. A child cannot be allowed to be born without the consent of both parents.”

He just won’t leave me alone. I’ve been so ill with stress this entire pregnancy. How will I ever explain to my little child when he’s born that his father is a racist abusive freak?

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octonaught · 22/04/2018 21:14

How horrendous, I did not want to read & run.
Not sure what the next steps are, there will be wiser mnetters along to recommend places of support. Congratulations on your pregnancy

Babyblues052 · 22/04/2018 21:16

Are the threats of physical violence ect. Because if I were you I'd be going to the police and saying you fear for yours and your unborn child's safety. He's sounds disgusting

SelkieUnderLand · 22/04/2018 21:18

I'd terminate. I wouldn't want to be linked forever to that guy. You'd never feel safe.

Sadsnake · 22/04/2018 21:20

He sounds mentally ill..I'd be getting an injunction quick,keep all messages and head to the police. ..report everything.i think possibly I'd be blocking him on everything,and be preparing to go it totally alone ,not putting him on the birth certificate or asking for-maintenance.if you decide to keep this baby I'd be suggesting you move well away from him.

DairyisClosed · 22/04/2018 21:22

Report him to the police for common assault and get a restraining order.

Scabetty · 22/04/2018 21:24

Tell him you have terminated, then move as far away from this disgusting thing as you can.

RafikiIsTheBest · 22/04/2018 21:24

I agree with PP that you should take any evidence of any threats to the police and ask them their advice.
Are you in the UK? Maybe self-report to SS as well, again using any evidence, you don't want this dick head turning around when the baby is born and demanding unsupervised access, who know's what he will do if he's threatening you already. Their support might be valuable to you as well in terms of some support during your pregnancy and after the birth, if you are struggling with anything.

It really sounds like a horrible situation to be in. But don't let any of his nonsense get into your head. This is your body that you are carrying your (and his) baby in. His choice to not have a baby with someone outside his ethnicity or religion was before he had sex with you! It's too late now for him to do anything. No contraceptive is 100% and you were honest with him that you didn't agree with abortion. That is your choice!

Greenyogagirl · 22/04/2018 21:27

Forget maintenance and being a father, report to the police and keep all evidence, get an injunction so he can’t hurt you.

DuchyDuke · 22/04/2018 21:27

I agree that you need to think very carefully whether you want a child with this guy. Depending on where you are, if he got the underbelly of the Pakistani community involved, you could be in danger. Try and find a safe place to stay, ideally as far from him as possible.

Eyedontknow · 22/04/2018 21:27

If he is making direct threats to harm you, tell him to no longer contact you, block him and report it to the police, especially if he continues to contact you. Essentially, I agree with @sadsnake

StarofBethlehem2018 · 22/04/2018 21:29

My hope was that since he is so racist and wants nothing to do with the baby, he will eventually leave me in peace.

I ended up speaking to his previous partner. Because she is white he didn't treat her with the same contempt with which he treats me. However, she said he was still very abusive and she considers him both a sociopath/ Narcissist (narcissistic personality disorder.

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Eyedontknow · 22/04/2018 21:30

Unfortunately, also what @DuchyDuke said.

Iflyaway · 22/04/2018 21:32

saying he will take me to court for refusing to get an abortion.

No such thing.

What a fuckwit.

Do your own thing. I say that as a single mum for 28 years with a bi-racial child. So much better than having these kind of people in your life.

Your future self and your child will thank you for it!

StarofBethlehem2018 · 22/04/2018 21:36

The abuse has been so relentless that it's not been possible to enjoy the pregnancy.

I'm certainly not having an abortion, and anyway I'm already 5+ months.

He is an extremely disturbed person. He actually claimed he'd report me to the police if I let anyone in his family know I'm having his baby, but his family's now aware

I want to raise my baby alone with no interference whatsoever from this evil scumbag. I don't think that is much to ask.

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Granville72 · 22/04/2018 21:45

You need to report him to the police and show them everything he has texted / emailed you.

They can place an injunction against him contacting you or coming near you.

This is very important as he has threatened to harm you. Please don’t let this low life get away with it. Protect yourself and your baby

SandyY2K · 22/04/2018 21:45

I think you need to report his threats to the police. I'd also look into some firm of restraining order.

If he was so racist why have a relationship with you? Based on his comments about the baby I'd also not allow unsupervised access if at all. He's a danger to your baby.

He's so anti having the baby. It's an inconvenience to him and he'll go to all lengths to make it disappear if he can. Take this very seriously and protect yourself.

Men in his position have resorted to extreme lengths.

SandyY2K · 22/04/2018 21:47

Granville our posts are pretty much identical.

almondcroissantplease · 22/04/2018 21:47

I agree with PP that you should say you terminated then move away and block him and everyone connected to him, off everything. It's unfair on the child to have him around, he sounds evil and no normal man would say that. He's told you his intentions, believe him..

octonaught · 22/04/2018 21:49

Absolutely do NOT put his name on the birth certificate

funnylittlefloozie · 22/04/2018 21:49

You poor thing - what a horrible situation to be in. The most important thing is to look after yourself and keep yourself and your baby safe. You may have to accept that you are unlikely to see any realistic amount of child support from this man. Do NOT put his name on the birth certificate (since he is unlikely to want to go with you to register the birth, this is a non-problem).

If he is making threats towards you, call the police immediately. Don't wait until he actually attacks you - if he makes you feel fearful, ring them straight away. Do you have any contact with his family? Have you ever met them or spoken to them?

OnTheRise · 22/04/2018 21:50

Definitely go to the police, and show them the abusive messages he's sent you.

Don't let your guard down with this man: he's dangerous, and disturbed.

Incarnationsofunderstanding · 22/04/2018 21:51

Seriously, child support is not worth this.

Go totally no contact and if you can then just move and disappear from him forever. Raise your child alone completely.

Fishwearwigs · 22/04/2018 21:55

My ex was an abusive twat too, when i found out i was pregnant i blocked him from everything and cut all contact. I didnt want his vile behaviour anywhere near my child. He doesnt pay child support (i never gave him the option to as it would just be another way hes connected to me). I can honestly say ive never been happier. So my advice is cut ALL contact, have no ties to him and enjoy your beautiful baby.

Astarael · 22/04/2018 22:04

Has he made these threats in writing? That includes texts and email. If he has, please please show the police.

At this point you need to make sure that you and the baby are safe.

You need to involve the police so you don’t end up being forced to provide unsupervised contact to this man.

Police involvement and the collection of child support are entirely separate so don’t worry there. Even if a restraining order is put in place against him he will still be required to pay whatever is calculated against his earnings.

Be safe - you may be able to enjoy the rest of your pregnancy when you feel more secure that he can’t hurt you anymore.

notapizzaeater · 22/04/2018 23:40

The police need to see these threats - imAgine if he wanted a relationship with the baby at a later date, you need evidence of his feelings

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