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Father of my unborn baby is racist against me

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StarofBethlehem2018 · 22/04/2018 21:09

Please bear with me if this all comes out a bit garbled, I’m kind of in a state.

In a nutshell: I am pregnant by my ex. I was completely in love with this guy but actually it was a seriously abusive relationship. On top of everything else, he is viciously racist and I was naive enough not to see it.

The pregnancy wasn’t planned (contraception failure). Before we ever had sex we’d actually talked about what we’d do if I got pregnant. I’d said I don’t believe in abortion. He’d said he doesn’t either. He's making threats to harm me

He’s British Pakistani and Muslim. I’m mixed-race African/British. He’s said all manner of disparaging things about black people throughout the relationship. It reached a point eventually where he said he’s “just not willing to commit to a black woman” but that it’d be different if I was white or anything other than black. He’a also said such awful, awful things. He won’t even refer to my child as his baby. He sent me this email demanding I get an abortion and saying he will take me to court for refusing to get an abortion. He wrote: “If you really want a baby go and find someone who cares about you.”

He sent other messages where he’s said he will be the baby’s “friend” and will pay support “when he can.” When I told him he’s the baby’s dad not its friend and that he has to pay child support every month, not just when he can, he went absolutely mental. He won’t even refer to my child as his baby or even as a baby now at all, he just said the baby’s a “mistake.”

A friend sent me a supportive message once she realised I was keeping the baby, telling me a baby’s a blessing and congratulating me. The ex went berserk and said I had no right to be congratulated and that he doesn’t understand why I am not “ashamed” of being pregnant.

He’s made direct threats now to harm me. Insisting still that he’s not willing to “let” me have his baby and that “I didn’t want a baby with you!” (because I’m black). One of his last messages said: “We’ll go to the hospital and support you through the abortion process. A child cannot be allowed to be born without the consent of both parents.”

He just won’t leave me alone. I’ve been so ill with stress this entire pregnancy. How will I ever explain to my little child when he’s born that his father is a racist abusive freak?

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WanderingTrolley1 · 22/04/2018 23:42

I don’t think I could have a child with him as the father. I would end pregnancy and move on.

StarofBethlehem2018 · 23/04/2018 00:43

@notapizzaeater there's no way I can ever let him near this baby, agreed

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StarofBethlehem2018 · 23/04/2018 00:43

@WanderingTrolley1
Good for you

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squarecorners · 23/04/2018 01:03

OP this is heartbreaking. I also think you should get the police involved, but break all contact with him. Remember that your baby isn't it's father. You're going to bring him /her up with all your values and teach them to be a great person. Just make sure you keep all the evidence that will keep this vile scumbag away from your beautiful baby. Keeping a diary of verbal abuse or threats is a good idea too.

comfortandjoy · 23/04/2018 01:15

What an awful situation for you. He sounds like a monster. I can’t get my head around why you would want a child with such a man. You must want a baby terribly. Is it your last chance because if your age perhaps?
Forget about maintenance etc. You need this man out of your life. I would do what others recommend, tell him you’ve terminated and move away.

StarofBethlehem2018 · 23/04/2018 01:33

@comfortandjoy you realise not all women agree with abortion, right? Confused

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StarofBethlehem2018 · 23/04/2018 01:34

@squarecorners My poor little baby has had to absorb all this stress in the womb Sad

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Sn0tnose · 23/04/2018 01:56

Star I think you have to start planning for the future and the possibility that he is potentially going to get court ordered access rights to your child, even if just to harass you. There are people who have absolutely no interest in any relationship with their children but who seek custody purely to worry the resident parent. Would you feel comfortable handing your child over to a man who has been described as a sociopath and who has made all sorts of threats against you?

I think you need to report these threats to the police and seek some kind of restraining order, which might support supervised contact should he demand it in the future.

pallisers · 23/04/2018 02:23

Personally I would terminate. But that isn't for everyone and it is likely too late for the OP now anyway.

So I would be tempted to tell him I have terminated and move away as others have said.

Still won't solve the problem of what you do when your child wants to meet his or her father but might at least buy you 15 years to rear your child without the malignant influence of this man.

What an absolute awful situation for you. And for your child.

Sn0tnose · 23/04/2018 02:51

there's no way I can ever let him near this baby, agreed By reporting him to the police, you stand less chance of that decision being taken out of your hands by the courts in the future.

Alpineflowers · 23/04/2018 03:36

What a terrible situation for you. You need support immediately. Is there a local Womens Centre? Please seek one out. They have solictors and social workers as well as other women to help you and men are not allowed in these places. Also contact the police as soon as possible. This means that right from the start, his behaviour will be on record

I know you say that he is racist because you are black/mixed race but Pakistani men can also be racist toward white girls too. I have seen this happen to women I know. I know it isn't any comfort to you though. Also his family, including the women, could be racist toward you as well. Also follow you around and watch your movements. Please be aware of this

He says he doesn't want anything to do with the baby now but once the baby is born that might change, especially if its a boy. As others have said. Do not let him put his name on the birth certificate. (He cannot do this anyway unless he is present when the birth is registered)

Oliversmumsarmy · 23/04/2018 04:42

Contact the police and women's aid. You need protection.

You would be safer to move away. Cut contact and change your name.

For all those saying she should abort I think at 5 months it is too late and why the hell should a tiny baby pay with his life for the fathers issues.

He is definitely on another planet if he thinks that he can take you to court because you won't get an abortion.

C0untDucku1a · 23/04/2018 04:52

Report to the police. Block him.

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 23/04/2018 05:16

The ex went berserk and said I had no right to be congratulated and that he doesn’t understand why I am not “ashamed” of being pregnant.

He wasn't ashamed to put his penis in you and ejaculate though?

You can't argue with batshit crazy. If you can, put some distance between yourself and this utter tool. Stop involving yourself with his ex and move on with your life.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 23/04/2018 06:00

And obviously do not put him on the birth certificate.

allthingsred · 23/04/2018 06:18

Op. This is just awful for you.
As pp have said keep anything he has sent/sends you & report.
& move far away. You & your child dont want that poison in your life.
You don't need child support off him. You will be so much better on your own

DontMentionTheWar · 23/04/2018 06:26

OP numerous people have suggested you contact the police but you haven’t commented on them or said that you will. Are you going to contact the police?

PerfectPenquins · 23/04/2018 06:34

You need to report him to the police, otherwise if ever decided to punish you by gaining contact with his child a court will allow it. Personally, I would report him then move and leave no trace for him to find me in order to protect your baby. He really can not ben near that child but if he pursued it he would likely get it so thats what I would be working on. Good Luck, and also you can do the freedom programme online now so might be worth doing so.

LoveProsecco · 23/04/2018 06:43

As others have said contact the police & relocate. This man sounds terrifying!

fontofnoknowledge · 23/04/2018 06:48

'Threats to harm you ' ? Are these by text message or email. ? Take them to a police station. It is a criminal offence.

DO NOT sit on your hands and do nothing, even if you have no evidence.
Do NOT spend your time complaining about this man on a Internet forum. He sounds psychopathic and you need to protect yourself and baby. Get to a police station and a domestic violence unit like women's aid. Today !!!

Charley50 · 23/04/2018 06:51

I agree that you should report him to the police. It's abuse and harassment. Don't be embarrassed, he's the embarrassment.
If you're worried about it escalating if his family hear about it (through the police), maybe tell him first that you'll tell the police if he won't leave you alone. Personally I'd tell the police anyway. Who the fuck does he think he is!!!?

Charley50 · 23/04/2018 06:53

I was very stressed in my pregnancy too (caused by DS dad). I know it's horrible and hope you can get him away from you and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. Don't engage with him anymore.
As a pp said, you can't argue with crazy.

rollingonariver · 23/04/2018 06:54

This is so awful, I can't imagine being this scared during my pregnancy.
You really do need to involve police, then it's not just 'one time' if he were to continue to harass you. Speak to the police for your babies sake.

littlebillie · 23/04/2018 06:58

I heard of a similar situation and the baby was adopted at birth. She is married to a lovely man and they have children together she wanted to cut the connection

TokenBritPoshOfCourse · 23/04/2018 07:03

Can people please stop telling the OP to abort or adopt out? She’s already said she wants this baby.

Is moving away an option? You do definitely need to get the police involved but if it was me I would just disappear. He does sound incredibly dangerous.

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