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From perfect relationship to wanting to end it in 3 weeks

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GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 19:32

Sorry if this turns out lo g and boring...

I think it's probably a 'rough patch' and the 'incidents' probably sound minor but I feel really strange like I might just have changed the way I view him irreparably. It just doesn't sit right.

Been together 4 years, lived together 2. I have DD from previous who is 7. DP has recently bought a business, which I am involved in to a small extent. He and DD get along brilliantly almost all the time.

Bit of background - 1.5 years ago, I caught him messaging on a porn site. He insisted it was just porn to him, I felt the messaging crossed a line and he'd lied a lot about it so we split for a week or so. Since then, he's always been transparent, when it comes to that anyway. I dont think he really does transparent as it turns out.

Started a few weeks ago when I was looking through his emails to find something work related and something caught my eye. He'd set up an account on a credit score website in my name to credit check me. We'd been talking about buying house. I've had financial difficulties due to divorce in last five years and spoke of how I was worried about my credit. So he looked but never told me he had. I didnt like that at all, so we rowed.

Last week he didnt tell me that nearly 3,000 had been taken out of our bank account by mistake (true, it's being put back). When I found out, I'd been asking him about finances but he lied about it and then when I found out he'd known about this way before I did, he lied about knowing. Not just once, but denied it til he was blue in the face and I didn't understand why.

And today, he's been telling me I need to be firmer with DD. She's a very good and easy kid, often described to me as a 'delight' by independant, unbiased adults. Six year olds can be annoying though obviously, and this morning she was talking in a baby voice and nagging me to get out of bed (I am so not a morning person). He told her off a couple of times. He wasn't technically wrong but it wasn't really necessary. Afterwards he told me he felt bad. I said not to worry she's fine. But I also told him he's been a little quicker to annoy latey, which I know is due to over work and tiredness, but over the weekend maybe try and reset with her.

He then told he was just trying to set ground rules as he feels she needs structure and boundaries. Oh and apparently he's been doing research lately and babytalk is a 'serious issue', as is her too strong attachment to me. He has never shared this advice or even the fact he felt there were issues.

I'm now thinking he's hardwork and I wondering what the fuck is going on in his head.

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supersop60 · 02/03/2018 19:41

Firstly, I would trust your instincts. If it doesn't sit right, then something is 'off'. Do you have your own bank account as well as a joint one? He has known your DD since she was 2 - why is he now questioning your parenting? Does she think of him as daddy, or is she in contact with your ex?
Sorry to ask so many questions - just trying to get a clearer picture. Sorry you're not happy.

lolaflores · 02/03/2018 19:46

She is too attached to you?
He sounds possesive.
Too much going on in too short a time to be incidential.
I get that there is a new buisness etc. but if he can't handle the stress himself or at least talk it through then he needs a long look at himself.
If it is business teething trouble then fine but it sounds like he is being peevish off the back of it and he should step off, right now.
No way should he be making a judgment call on how close your daughter is to you. No way. That sort of talk pisses me off. Of course she is attached to you...

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 19:49

Thank you super. I was trying to be factual to keep the word count down.

Her dad is very involved, she's with him 2/3 nights a week. She loves DP but I think he wants to parent her more than he generally fets chance to.

I dont think its not sitting right because he's up to something but it isn't sitting right because I am discovering he is actually not a very honest.person. i think its his default to lie and hide things

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Lookatyourwatchnow · 02/03/2018 19:49

Too attached to you? I don't like this comment from him in particular

Offred · 02/03/2018 19:53

The incidents don’t sound minor to me.

You can’t trust someone who lies.

He also sounds like he is taking out his work stress on you and DD - this is common with abusive men. Not saying he is an abuser but it’s a red flag.

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 19:54

Yeah and me lola. It really got my back up. I thought he was juat going to say 'I'm on a bit if a shorter fuse at the moment and I got a bit annoyed' but to turn it around like that was a bit baffling.

There's a lot in his head that I don't know about clearly. I'm not sure there's much I want to do in the way of boundaries and ground rules either so if I'm not orepared to bring DD in line, he's clearly going to get more annoyed with her, and it wont work as I wont allow it. She's such a good kid and he always how much he loves her. Dick.

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trackrBird · 02/03/2018 19:58

He lies too much and too brazenly. He lies and deceives around money.

If he is trying to run a business now, that is a concern. You have to deal honestly with people, keep accounts, make the proper returns etc - will he do that, or start lying about something there too? And drag you into it, whether you know about it or not?

I don’t think this kind of deceit is minor. I think it will lead to much bigger problems. I also think it likely he has lied about other matters which you don’t know about yet. So in my view, pretty serious.

lolaflores · 02/03/2018 19:58

Yep Glorious he is looking to pick a fight with the nearest person and she is the youngest and least able to stand up to him. He is getting at her. Finding fault and being too attached to you is a slim enough nail to hang it on.
I would punch his fucking face in...Sorry. BUT NOT SORRY>
I was on my own with my DD for 4 years before met DH>
I had been with bloke who said this to me. He turned into an abusive fuck as it turned out. Controlling, possessive, lying...I could go on.

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:01

The attachment thing comes on the back of a phase with DD where she has been a btlit clingy with me. She's a mummy's girl. It got a little suffocating for a while as I work from home and she wanted to be with me. We're dealing with it now. She puts up with a lot of swapping and changing so I'm her constant. It did get a little wearing but it was by no means a 'serious issue' and I'm pissed off he would carry out reasearch and make judgements behind my back and then use it as a stick to beat me with in an argument.

He's not abusive offred, I've been there, i just think he's a liar.

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Offred · 02/03/2018 20:14

Again, not saying he is abusive, but also don’t fall into the trap of thinking every abuser abuses like the abuser you were with in the past.

Unfaithfulness, lying and now projecting his stress onto you and trying to bully you about your parenting as a way of turning a criticism back onto you - those are all quite big red flags.

You for some reason thinking these are minor incidents is a bit worrying too - £3k ‘went missing’?! And he lied ‘til he was blue in the face?! Confused

Offred · 02/03/2018 20:16

You’ve gone off him because his behaviour is incompatible with having a secure and stable loving relationship where you are equals. People lie to gain an unfair advantage over others.

Coyoacan · 02/03/2018 20:16

Mmm, just on the back of the comment about "babytalk", I looked it up as my dd, back in the day, did this occasionally. "Why does your 6 year old (or even 10 year old) talk like a baby? It could be a number of reasons, and mostly it’s annoying, but not a huge concern"
bouncebackparenting.com/when-your-child-talks-like-a-baby/

So even that seems to be a lie. Sorry OP.

Offred · 02/03/2018 20:17

Did he have something to do with the missing £3k? Did he nick it for his business and then put it back when you found out or something? I can’t see why he would lie otherwise...

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:21

Thanks Offred.

I kind of meant minor in comparison to other peoples issues on here. But yeah, when I was writing it all down I did question myself. Thought I might get told I was nitpicking.

The money went from a.business account. It actually was genuinely an error. The energy company took it as payment without warning on a miscalculated bill and it's being paid back. It was just the lying about it. He said it was so I wouldnt worry, but when I called him out, he spent a lot of time trying to convince me he hadn't know earlier until he eventually admitted it as it was obvious I was right.

He always says he doesnt tell me as he doesnt want to cause an argument. Same with the credit check and same with his concerns about parenting. But although a bit stubborn, I'm actually a reasonable person. He makes me feel like I must be a tyrant

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Blinkyblink · 02/03/2018 20:21

, i just think he's a liar

Seriously, how can you be in a relationship where you think this about someone. I just don’t get it.

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:21

Because I'm coming to the realisation today blinky

RTFT

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GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:26

Thanks Coyocan, same here, I knew it was.just a six year old thing so wasn't worried at all. I got the feeling he was just clutching at straws when he told me about his research like he'd rather bullshit then just say "yeah, i got annoyed and overreacted"

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Blinkyblink · 02/03/2018 20:28
Hmm
GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:31

Is there something wrong @blinkyblink?

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Offred · 02/03/2018 20:44

So he’s just lying purely to have one up on you by keeping you in the dark and making you feel it I unreasonable to expect honesty then? Confused

Blinkyblink · 02/03/2018 20:45

Bit tired after a killer hot yoga class and looking forward to catching on front of greys. Thanks for asking

GloriousDolores · 02/03/2018 20:50

I don't know offred, I think it's quite strange. I think that's also why I thought it was probably minor - because I can't see the point in any of it. It's just lying for lyings sake. And also making up issues that aren't there.

It's making it not feel right.

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Offred · 02/03/2018 21:00

I think it’s rare for people without some kind of personality disorder to simply lie for lying’s sake and without any material benefit.

If you ask him why he lies he basically implies it is because you are unreasonable... which is not good. That’s not a reason for lying, it’s a reason for not being with you if it is really the truth of how he feels, which I doubt.

It’s pretty awful and soul destroying in a boiling frog kind of way to be repeatedly lied to then have the lying blamed on you. Not a small thing at all.

Offred · 02/03/2018 21:06

Have you asked him why he thinks lying to you about something he has decided (fairly or unfairly) will ‘cause an argument’ is likely to result in a better outcome than telling the truth?

Offred · 02/03/2018 21:09

Even if he’d fucked up surely he understands that lying as well as fucking up is inevitably going to result in more arguments and a generally poor quality of relationship with tension and reduced intimacy and trust than simply coming clean as he’s basically turning you into the police rather than a partner every time he lies?!

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